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blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:20 PM

Hit Bot Blocker! Please Test. Opinions
 
I tried this script I wrote the other day to try and get rid of hit bot traffic with the theory being that hit bots can't read image files.

It seemed to work.

Issues:
1. My traffic went way down, maybe real surfers are too lazy to do it.

2. Can it be beat by a bot.


Advantages:
1. Blocks fake hits from non-sophisticated bots without a doubt

2. Non-english traffic can't read the instructions so blocked

3. I fucking got sign ups even though traffic was low



* My conclusion so far is that if many sites used this type of script the surfers would get used to it and good traffic would activate the site and be counted. Therefore my traffic would not have been so low. Also; maybe the good traffic did activate the site and the "low" traffic is simply the real traffic I was getting all along. My signups didn't go down!!!!!

These bots are clicking through your site; through your hosted galleries and into your sponsors. So you may curse your sponsor for not converting but how can they convert off a hit bot!!???

They click through on your traffic trade and get detected by sites you trade with which makes your traffic look like shit and you get deleted from your trades!!!

We gotta stop these bots or we are fucked!!

So try these links out and test them:

It will be a better test if you place the link on your domain and click through becuase then you will be able to run the activation report and see which domains activated and which did not.

http://www.blackmonsters.com/main2.shtml

After you click through from your domain use this link for the report

http://www.blackmonsters.com/cgi-bin...ionreport2.cgi

The report shows the domain then number of hits then number of activations by IP address. You have to get a new IP address to do a second test or wait 24 hours.


If anyone has a bot that can beat the script then by all means please do it and prove it because I would like to know about it.
Just post here with a new Nick name and brag about it.

Thanks

Lane 01-06-2004 04:25 PM

no traffic trading site would put such gateway just to stop hitbots

TonyL 01-06-2004 04:28 PM

Im out of the loop on TGP's but you are saying there are hitbots running that just click-thru other peoples sites for no reason? I don't understand the motivation of the person running the hitbot.

-Tony

blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
no traffic trading site would put such gateway just to stop hitbots
Well, I don't really want to put a gateway but blocking proxy traffic is not the way to stop hit bots. You block all AOL traffic this way in addition to some other surfers.

I used a gateway on my topsite for years and had no problem with traffic. So maybe worring about the gateway is a mistake.

Plus I can set my script to not block search engine bots!!!

blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
Im out of the loop on TGP's but you are saying there are hitbots running that just click-thru other peoples sites for no reason? I don't understand the motivation of the person running the hitbot.

-Tony

TGP's trade traffic. So if a TGP sends me a hit then I send a hit back to them. If they send my 1000 fake hits from a bot then I send them 1000 real hits from my site which means I'm getting screwed. The hit bot clicks my links because I measure productivity of the traffic. If the traffic from a TGP never clicks my links then that is surely a hit bot. So a really good hit bot will click my links and also click into my sponsor so that I am fooled into thinking the traffic is real and getting no signups. Yet I am sending them real traffic and they are getting signups.

vas 01-06-2004 04:39 PM

no point in this shit, so many free sites out there that the surfer will just be too lazy to type that shit in.

blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lane
no traffic trading site would put such gateway just to stop hitbots
Hmmmm, sites like green guy and thumbzilla actually trade traffic to their index page and the surfer has to click through to the main gallery page. So is there really a differrence?

Maybe thumbzilla figures only shitty surfers will not click through to the main page and this is a chance to show more ads. It worked for my topsite list. If I lost traffic then it was probably shit traffic anyway.

AdultNex 01-06-2004 04:50 PM

Don't most traffic scripts detect hitbots?

blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vas
no point in this shit, so many free sites out there that the surfer will just be too lazy to type that shit in.
Enough clicked through when I tried it the other day where my signup stayed the same...maybe went up a fraction.

I appriciate your opinion but I noticed that you only have 14 post on this board. Maybe you are more a surfer than a webmaster and don't really know what other surfers will do.

The activation report tells the story.


PS: a surfer who is that lazy ain't gonna fill out no paysite sign up form either.

blackmonsters 01-06-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
Don't most traffic scripts detect hitbots?
No!!

They check productivity but like I said the new hit bots are faking productivity also.


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