Question about Pit Bulls
 

I just read this story about Princess Anne's English Bull Terriers


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What is the diff between an English Bull Terrier and a Pit Bull Terrier??

PS: Princess Anne is a real Princess,, Would you bang her??? :Kissmy

go to goole and search.

A pit bull does not look the same at all, totally different head

Bulldog-Johnnie would be the one to ask. His life is his dogs, pretty much and I know he has a lot of them :) I will refer him to this thread.

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History Question?

Was the dog Pete from The Little Rascals a pit bull terrier?

I believe the main difference is that the american pit bull is bred to less specific apearance guidelines thus resulting in greater genitic diversity than the English BT which is bred to strict visual standards.

yeah, american bull terrier.

Totally different breeds but members of the Terrier family. Terrier is a breed of dog that was bred originally for hunting rats and going into underground areas/tubes/tunnels, etc

The only good pitbull is a dead pitbull. They are bred for bad qualities and their owners are bred from redneck/ghetto stock.

One of my crew, "The Rat" has had several pit bulls.

They are as sweet as can be.
Just like humans, if you raise the dog like an idiot, the dog will grow up to be an idiot...

Actually his new puppy is a direct descendant from "Petie" from the Lil' Rascals :thumbsup

Cool dog... No aggressive behavior at all.

I have to agree. Whenever I see a pitbull the owner always looks like a lowlife fucker. You know the type.

Ever year you read about some little kid having their face ripped off by those fucking dogs.

the one in the little rascals seemed ok.

It's in their nature to attack. It doesn't really matter how they are raised...dogs have mood swings just like people. If a pomeranian gets pissed and attacks a little kid or another dog for no reason, no one is going to get hurt. If a pitbull does it, it's another fucking story. It basically like owning a gun that can shoot itself.

anyone got video of a pitbull in action???

Every dog/human has it in their nature to attack that doesnt make us/them evil.

If you dont know the stats then you should check them again.


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The most horrifying example of the lack of breed predictibility is the October 2000 death of a 6-week-old baby, which was killed by her family's Pomeranian dog. The average weight of a Pomeranian is about 4 pounds, and they are not thought of as a dangerous breed. Note, however, that they were bred to be watchdogs! The baby's uncle left the infant and the dog on a bed while the uncle prepared her bottle in the kitchen. Upon his return, the dog was mauling the baby, who died shortly afterwards. ("Baby Girl Killed by Family Dog," Los Angeles Times, Monday, October 9, 2000, Home Edition, Metro Section, Page B-5.)
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" In all fairness, therefore, it must be noted that:
Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner most often is responsible -- not the breed, and not the dog.
An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).
Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be likely to bite. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack. "

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I can find an example of some one murdered with a butter knife but that doesn't mean butter knifes are more dangerous that guns or are more commonly used for violence.

Babies have been killed by rats too. I'm talking about a little kid old enough to be walking home from school through a bad neighborhood. A pomeranian might bite them, but those little teeth aren't gonna make it through shoes or pants, I know from experience. A pit bulls will. I know from experience.

In 400 deaths in the united states between 1965-2000 pit bulls were responsible for less than 20% of them.

Black people were responsible for twice that rate of human murders between the same time period, Are you trying to tell me that black people are all murderers and are "genetically inclined" to murder ?

Or does i make more sense that circumstance plays a large roll ?

Ban the fucking pit bull:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...ks&sa=N&tab=iw

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...ranian+attacks

I found one example of a Pomeranian attack. Hundreds and hundreds for pitbulls. The circumstances that get you attacked by a pitbull seem to be...being near a pitbull.

For those that may not remember, my dog and I were attacked by two pit bulls that the owners allowed to run free in my neighborhood. I was walking my dog on a leash and they attacked us. The vet bills were over $1k and we had to go to court to get them back. Now I'm scared to walk my dog in my own fucking neighborhood because this is Indiana and I know there's a bunch of rednecks that have pitbulls and let them run around, and any pitbull that sees my little dog is going to think it's lunch.


Pomeranian Kills 6-Week-Old Girl
September 21, 2001

LOS ANGELES (AP) - A small Pomeranian dog killed a 6-week-old baby while the infant's caretaker briefly left the child unattended to warm a bottle of milk, authorities said.

The relative, who was caring for the infant girl, found her head buried in the dog's mouth Saturday night, sheriff's Deputy Cruz Solis said. The girl died of head trauma at an area hospital, he said.

The baby's name was withheld because her parents were out of the country and had not been notified, Solis said.

The relative has not been charged. Animal control officers took the dog.

Pomeranians are a breed of miniature canines that have a foxlike face, pointy ears and long, fluffy hair. The deputy said Pomeranian attacks are rare.

``Obviously it doesn't take much to kill a 6-week old baby but it's not something that happens with that breed,'' Solis said.

Google

PIT BULL ATTACKS = 28,100
POMERANIAN ATTACKS = 2,400

Who you kidding, idiot.

I have 2 Pit bull terriers and wouldn't consider having any other breed. The media sensationalism is unbelievable when it comes to Branding Pits as Monsters. These dogs socialized properly are no more dangerous than a chinese crested. It's unfortunate that certain people are attracted to these dogs for no other reason than to make it an icon for their gangster bullshit. Any dog, if locked up to a tree with a chain that would choke a horse and fed whenever (if at all) and countless other forms of abuse will become antisocial and aggressive.
Pit bulls are awesome, friendly dogs as anybody that has ever raised one properly will tell you.

Neopolitan Mastiff , that's is my doggie !

2,399 of those results for "Pomeranian attacks" are either about Pomeranians having some sort of health-related attack or being attacked. :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh You are one dumb mother fucker Just look at Boomer He is a real killer. You fucking CHUMP !

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Now he does have a small coke problem

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I bet he would think my little sewer rat-looking dog was a chew toy and would eat him if he got loose from your house. That's all I'm saying.

My brother had a happy go lucky lab, never hurt a fly, and one day it decided to snack on my 12 year old nieces hand, 17 stitches later and scarred for life, they were going to put the dog down. But it was fine after that, for awhile, back to being loving, and then one day his wife put her hand out and the dog took off the tip of her finger. They had to put the dog down. I hear about it all the time. You think you know your dog "oh it won't hurt you, she'a big baby" and then bloodshed. Our homeowners insurance company wouldn't insure us if we had a big dog. Doesn't matter what kind of dog you have, you do NOT know what they are capable of. The bigger more harmful dog you have, well, you better be prepared just in case the worst happens.

nice dog phenomenon, nice couch too... i have the same one

Thanks :thumbsup

i've been breedeing staffordshire bullterriers for 20 years now,it's the original smaller version off the american staff or pittbull.Never had one biting incident.
The problem is people,when i go to shows with my dogs a lot of show-offs turn up who just want to impress everybody with their dogs biting skills,everytime a dog gets popular these fuckups destroy a dograce.
When there were those dobermann movies everybody wanted a dobermann because it was cool ,and as a result you got bad breedings and a lot of biting incidents,same with dalmatiens,even now look at the movie Nemo everybody wants that fish
It's true that when a pitt bites it's more harmfull then when an other dog would,but i've looked up lots of incidents and 99.99% were dogs in the wrong hands,status dogs who had to solve problems for there owners.When a dog like that gets out he will bite because his owner always rewarded him for it
The best thing would be a owner test to see if the dog fits to the person,not just pitts but a lot more ,like rottweilers,mastino,dogo argentina etc

dogs,and people, are not born bad,but made bad by their environment

Any animal can attack just use the best measures so it doesn't happen I have owned 1 beagle 1 pit and 1 dobermint pit by far was my calmest dog. Dobermint was like having a child it had more energy then anything I have ever seen...

I like how rictor completely skipped over my black people question.


The facts speak for themselves , Pit bulls were responsible for only 20% of deaths by dog in the last 30 years. Black people were resposible for twice that many deaths during the same time period. So would it be true to say your twice as likely to be killed by a black person than a pitbull. Maybe we should ban black people ??

So you see no difference whatsoever between dogs and humans?

most off the time i preffer my dogs

Not true, my cousins have 6 pit bulls on their ranch and they are the sweetest dogs! They have had their pit's since they were pups and never had trouble with any kids or anything!

I just think that if you get them when their pups and train them the right way, they won't have the nature to attack! It doesn't matter what bred of dog you get, you have to keep it trained and let the dog know you're always have the upper hand! If you don't the dog gets outta control!

And if you really want to have a dog that will disobey you more than any other dog, it is a chow chow! That dog is KNOW for turning on it's masters all the time! I, myself, consider having a chow chow more dangerous than a pit bull!

jDoG

Hey dumbass - Is it the dogs fault, 90% of pit bull owners train their dogs for fighting, so it can't be placed on the dog itself, the owners are the ones reponsible!

BAN THE FUCKING OWNERS!

jDoG

ones from terrier group
the others from working group


terriers are more friendly, hyper, smarter, something you can keep in the house.

pitbulls.. gotta be carefull - buy from breader only - make sure no vilent background.. just something you dont want in the house or by kids.. be careful

pittbull is a terrier!
Mostly crossbreeding with other dogs

Ummm Pitbull is a terrier pal.

I have bred hundreds of pitbulls. Never once had a problem. Never once has any of them bitten anybody.

They play fine with the kids and are fine inside.


Most people just have set stereotypes that they believe , like pitbulls are violent, guard dogs.

When infact i had my house broken into a few years back, and i caught the guy breaking in , beat the shit out of him and the cops showed up almost arrested me etc etc. When the whole thing was over i went back in the house and my wife and pitbull were still asleep on the bed.

my bad... i always thought they were in the same group as german shepards and stuff...sorry

When did i say they were the same ???

It was a pretty clear statement. Black people are responsible for twice the rate of human deaths when compared to other humans as pitbulls when compared to other dogs.

Thus black people are far more deadly as a ratio to other breeds.

Thus black people must all be dangerous killers, because as a breed they are more likely to kill.

It has nothing to do with Lifestyle/location/attitude.



BAN IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!

In Holland a stafford without papers is considerd a pittbull,the heat is of now but a few years back there was a real razzia on pittbulls and other "dangerous"dogs i now from some friend in Germany they had to sell their dog because people would throw stones at them when they would walk the dogs in the park.
A lot of German dogs were bought/given to Dutch doglovers and none of them ever had a problem with them.
The media started this shit and luckely they stopped now,but you will not find much real pitt's here anymore

In most of the big cities in canada , you have to have $1 million dollars insurance on EACH pitbull you own and you must keep them muzzled at all times.

But most people here are talking american pit not staffordshire terrier ( real pit ).

I have 3 crosses and 1 of each. The crosses look the best about 50/50.

I have a pink nose thats 80 lbs

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If a dog attacks somebody and noone cares to identify it, they call it a "pitbull". Most people have no idea there are hundreds of dog breeds and any short haired meduim-large sized dog will end up being called a "pitbull" because that's a better headline.

"PITBULL ATTACK!" sells better than "Lab-mix bites woman".


I understand some of you probably live in citys where just about every pitbull you encounter is some ghetto idiots "balls on a leash" but don't blame this breed for what people do to them. And don't think "pitbulls" are like this everywhere.

Right now it's the American Pitbull Terrier. Not too long ago it was the Rottweiler. Before that, the Doberman. It's just a matter of which breed is currently trendy to abuse.


Historically, "pitbulls" were used as fighting dogs. But people also don't understand the difference between dog-aggression and people-aggression. They are totally unrelated. Infact, the putbulls that were used for fighting dogs had to be bred to be particuarly unwilling to bite a human because humans had to be able to get in the ring with them and seperate them while they were biting eachother.

Fortunately this is illegal now and the cops are finally getting serious about punishing people who abuse their animals.

If given the chance, raised in a good home, 'pitbulls' will be the most people-friendly happy silly funny dogs you'll ever meet. This is true of our dog and every pitbull I personally know.

Ours is sleeping next to our kitty right now. They love eachother.

my cousin owns a 3month old one and they are engergetic as fuck... they are really fun to play with though :thumbsup

I currently own well over 120 APBT's. I have been breeding them for approximately 20 years and consdider myself to be a bit of an authority on dogs in general not just APBT's. I have not only been an enthusiast of the breed but have also successfully lobbied against breed specific legislation and have requisitioned dog bite statistics from the CDC in Atlanta.

Sadly Rictor's attitude, as ignorant as it is, is an all too familiar one. Throughout my time with APBT's guys like Rictor have shot, poisoned, burned allive and dragged my dogs to death. Inflammatory and emotionally charged language like that of our learned colleague is largely responsible for one of the largest modern day witch hunts.

It is true that the APBT's history it deeply rooted in the pit, and it is true that they have a tendency to be naturally aggressive to other animals (espcially dogs), but human aggressive APBT is a poor example of the breed and should subsequently be culled to prevent passing on any such behavioral abhorrations. Their gladitorial histrory does not necessarily mean that they are not worthwhile as a companion, working dog nor does it mean that they have any predisposition to being aggressive to people. Take a look at this logically. If the dog has been bred for the pit, he has to be handled by complete strangers at the beginning of the match as the opponents' handlers are required to exchange dogs and wash them to ensure that nothing noxious is applied to the dogs coat to deter the other from taking hold. Secondly if one of the dogs were to bite anyone in the pit he is disqualified and usually shot immediately pitside. Morever a dog that it aggressive to people would not be focused enough on his oppponent and thusly would not last long in the pit, therefore would be a poor breeding candidate so the chances of his passing on his blood would be minimal.

For the record I would like to interject that I do not condone, support or otherwise agree with dog fighting in any way, I feel it is important to understand every aspect of the dogs as they are the single most important endeavor of my life. I have seprated dogs that have come together while breeding, in accidental yard fights, etc. I have never been been bitten by a pitbull. I have handled these dogs in the most stressful situation imaginable including, dogs injured in accidental fights, after being shot by self-righteous do gooders like Rictor, after being gored by wild boar and truly they have a an ability to shut out the pain, it is eery to say the least. When attending to injured dogs more often than not the dogs are more concerned about their handler than themselves, licking and reassuring their human companion that everything is going to be okay.

Most people are often surprised to learn that one of the most popular breeds for therapy dogs are APBT's because of their stable dispositions. One of the most titled working dog in history is an APBT known as CH Bandog Dread who not only has Schutzhund I, II and III titles but also has Canine Good Citizen and herding titles as well, that further demonstrate the versatility of the APBT.

I could go on for weeks about all of this and bore eveyone to tears, suffice to say that not everyone who is an APBT enthusiast is an ignorant, redneck or ghetto thug as Rictor asserts. Hopefully some others will chime in as well to help cast this most noble animals in a more positive light.

Anyone who is interested in APBT's or dogs in general please feel free to hit me up anytime.