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  • LA Mike
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    • Jul 2001
    • 3056

    #1

    California Spam Law

    Can someone post a link to the new California SPAM law that is suppost to take effect on the 1st?

    thanks
  • [Brian]
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    • Mar 2001
    • 1523

    #2
    http://www.spamlaws.com/federal/108s877.html

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    • howard
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      • Feb 2002
      • 1827

      #3
      Hey Mikey--here ya go.. Yes it does go in effect 1/1/ 2004



      September 24, 2003
      Calif. Enacts Tough Anti-Spam Law
      By Matt Villano


      Amid one of the biggest political crises in state history, California Gov. Gray Davis signed a bill this week designed to prohibit spam and penalizes advertisers and others who send unsolicited e-mail messages hawking sexual hankers, prescriptions, and other products.

      The new law, which takes effect Jan. 1, empowers California residents, the state attorney general and Internet providers to seek civil damages against spammers amounting to $1,000 per e-mail and $1 million per incident.

      "This is the toughest bill of its kind in the nation, and will hopefully be a model," said Sen. Kevin Murray, D-Los Angeles, who introduced the bill. "There are no loopholes, no way of getting around it."

      The legislation, dubbed SB 186 in committee, builds on current California anti-spam laws that requires commercial e-mail to carry "ADV" or "ADV:ADLT" in the subject line. The new law outlaws unwanted e-mails sent from or to someone in California or through a server in the state. It also prohibits the collecting of e-mail addresses on the Internet in California for the purpose of advertising.

      According to the language of the new law, customers would have to opt-in to any commercial e-mail, meaning they specifically agree to receive it. Individuals will be able to receive e-mail from companies they have done business with, but even those companies will be required to give customers the ability to opt-out of future solicitations.

      Murray and other supporters said they hope the bill helps smaller businesses who rely on e-mail for orders but are losing money due to screen clutter. A recent study by San Francisco-based marketing firm Ferris Research estimated that unwanted e-mails cost U.S. companies nearly $9 billion in lost productivity, consumption of communication bandwidth and drain of technical support.

      "California is sending a clear message to Internet spammers," Davis said in a statement that referred to the Ferris study. "We will not allow you to litter the information superhighway with e-mail trash."

      Still, reactions to the legislation were mixed. At the popular Web site craigslist.org, founder Craig Newmark said the law will provide him with legal recourse against spammers who seek addresses on his site. At the Aberdeen Group in Boston, however, Kent Allen, research director for the Internet Advertising division, said the bill is too weak to wield any significant impact.

      Allen explained that the legislation is problematic because it does not define spam explicitly, and does not provide a definition for what constitutes an "unsolicited" message. "Spam is a major annoyance, but legislation is not the answer," he told internetnews.com. "Often, what you cannot define, you cannot defend against effectively."

      Still others said that while the bill is explicit enough, it will be difficult to stop unwanted mail without new technologies that can target the messages objectively. "This bill will create a lot of nusance for legitimate marketers and not reduce by one e-mail the amount of spam," Ken Hirschman, general counsel of e-mail marketing firm Digital Impact told the San Francisco Chronicle. "It will lead to frivolous lawsuits against legitimate marketers."

      However the situation plays out, the new law is not the first piece of California legislation designed to fight unwanted electronic information. Last year, Davis signed what he called "Leave Us Alone" consumer protection legislation designed to put the kibosh on unsolicited faxes and cell phone text messages. Today, 35 other states have anti-spam measures on the books, and Congress is debating a number of spam bills this fall.
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      • Ic3m4nZ
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        • Aug 2003
        • 6285

        #4
        Spam does pay fuck the laws

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        • kmanrox
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          • Oct 2001
          • 29295

          #5
          Originally posted by Ic3m4nZ
          Spam does pay fuck the laws
          Wait... I'm sorry... I almost got scared... My USA citizen-living in SE Asia with bank accounts in 3 countries under someones name that is NOT MINE with 3 corporations, a gang of nominee directors, in 3 totally seperate countries had me scared for a minute...

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          • TheJimmy
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            • Jan 2001
            • 10747

            #6
            Originally posted by kmanrox


            Wait... I'm sorry... I almost got scared... My USA citizen-living in SE Asia with bank accounts in 3 countries under someones name that is NOT MINE with 3 corporations, a gang of nominee directors, in 3 totally seperate countries had me scared for a minute...

            I'm adding [email protected] to my mailing list ASAP

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            • ElvisManson
              Looking California
              • Feb 2001
              • 5476

              #7
              Doesn't the Can-Spam law supercede any State laws?

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              • NBDesign
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                • Jan 2003
                • 5814

                #8
                Originally posted by ElvisManson
                Doesn't the Can-Spam law supercede any State laws?
                I was wondering the same thing.

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                • ryph
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                  • Oct 2002
                  • 1225

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ElvisManson
                  Doesn't the Can-Spam law supercede any State laws?
                  yep, as far as I know
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                  • atomic2500
                    Registered User
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 59

                    #10
                    It should since it is a federal law.

                    But..........

                    What happens when the state traces back a "spam" mail and finds out it was generated from a huge ISP like aol or earthlink, spamming for themselves to promote their products and services. Are they going to fine them also? I think not!


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                    • Arty
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                      • Nov 2002
                      • 880

                      #11
                      That's what I understand from that:

                      *If you are mailing to opt-in subscibers
                      *If you have "ADV:ADLT" in the subject line
                      *If you have opt-out option in e-mail

                      You are fine to spam as hell... Correct?

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                      • TheJimmy
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                        • Jan 2001
                        • 10747

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Arty
                        That's what I understand from that:

                        *If you are mailing to opt-in subscibers
                        *If you have "ADV:ADLT" in the subject line
                        *If you have opt-out option in e-mail

                        You are fine to spam as hell... Correct?

                        and...

                        * don't use proxies
                        * don't fake headers
                        * include physical address and
                        * include a real reply email address...
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                        • BradShaw
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                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7840

                          #13
                          I could be wrong, but does the new FEDERAL SPAM LAW not supersede all state laws?
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                          • myneid
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 736

                            #14
                            yes the CAN-SPAM law goes into effect on teh 1st of january and supercedes all state laws reguarding the matter.

                            they pushed the CAN-SPAM bill quickly so that it would overrule this stupid california law that was way too strict.
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                            • atomic2500
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                              • Oct 2003
                              • 59

                              #15
                              California is going to have a really hard time trying to go after mailers.

                              I personally know mailers in California who are white listed with AOl and have no plans to stop with anything. If anything this new Can Ham law will make it easier for mailers. It will make using opt-in methods of bulk mailing a legitimate business. This will really piss off the antis when their law bites them in the ass

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                              • kmanrox
                                aka K-Man
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 29295

                                #16
                                im here mother fuckers.... waiting for you.... . where the fuck you at po-po????



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                                • servforce
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                                  • Mar 2003
                                  • 85

                                  #17
                                  spam's bad, hmmkay?
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                                  • Suckitbitch
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                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 278

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by kmanrox
                                    Wait... I'm sorry... I almost got scared... My USA citizen-living in SE Asia with bank accounts in 3 countries under someones name that is NOT MINE with 3 corporations, a gang of nominee directors, in 3 totally seperate countries had me scared for a minute...


                                    I'm sure anyone enforcing the law and doing investigations would be impressed by your pee-wee level offshore shell game.


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                                    • TonyL
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                                      • Feb 2002
                                      • 900

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by BradShaw
                                      I could be wrong, but does the new FEDERAL SPAM LAW not supersede all state laws?
                                      Yes.

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                                      • CAHEK
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                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 7416

                                        #20
                                        we are fucked in the ass
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                                        • - AFN -
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                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 3101

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by myneid
                                          yes the CAN-SPAM law goes into effect on teh 1st of january and supercedes all state laws reguarding the matter.

                                          they pushed the CAN-SPAM bill quickly so that it would overrule this stupid california law that was way too strict.
                                          Federal law is more forgiving... its an OPTOUT law as opposed to OPTIN but the labelling restrictions would fuck up legit bulkers and spammers, well they'll be eating at the Blue Room in New York in 2000 $ Zegna suits admiring the latest Vivaldi presentation at the Met.
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