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AvsTgp 12-26-2003 12:51 PM

Now Iran is looking for Americas help
 
And like a sucker we help them and give money, im all for it, but watch them throw it back in our faces with terrorism and nuclear weapons.
Maybe the muslims will realize once and for all whos helping who, but fat chance!

12clicks 12-26-2003 12:56 PM

I'm not for it.
After all, Eathquakes are allah's will. we should not interfer
:1orglaugh

Babaganoosh 12-26-2003 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm not for it.
After all, Eathquakes are allah's will. we should not interfer
:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

Hal 12-26-2003 01:08 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if some of those crazy fuckers over there attack the "infidel" rescue teams "on their soil".

KRL 12-26-2003 01:12 PM

Its not the people in these countries that are bad people, it's their leaders that are the problem.

AvsTgp 12-26-2003 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Its not the people in these countries that are bad people, it's their leaders that are the problem.
I beg to differ,
its the street, the media, the schools, the mosques, and the families that foster the hate, and paint us as evil and as their enemies.
Its the families that are proud of their kids for fighting the evil west that allows for such absurd goals to be instilled in little children.
The question "What do you want to do when you grow up?"
see the answers you will receive here and compare them to what you will hear when asking a kid from the middle east.

12clicks 12-26-2003 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Its not the people in these countries that are bad people, it's their leaders that are the problem.
Wrong.
Those muslim scum bags have the support of the people.
there might be a minority that people like to trot out when talking aboit change but its a minority.
KRL, its a nice thought, it simply isn't true.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/...ollresults.htm

Hawkeye 12-26-2003 01:30 PM

Personally, I hope Iran manages to build a nuclear arsenal for a number of reasons:

1. Israel and the USA would no longer enjoy absolute power over the region. This will lead to a more peaceful middle east.

2. It guarantees that nobody will ever go to war with Iran.

3. Our government will be forced to stop bullying Iran and actually treat them with respect, just like they do with North Korea and Pakistan.

4. It will be fun watching the Jews whine and complain and say "never again" 50,000 times on tv.

Nembrionic 12-26-2003 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
I'm not for it.
After all, Eathquakes are allah's will. we should not interfer
:1orglaugh


Tell that to LA and the people who are missing because of mudslides...it's God's will. So don't interfer!
:Graucho

12clicks 12-26-2003 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye
Personally, I hope Iran manages to build a nuclear arsenal for a number of reasons:

1. Israel and the USA would no longer enjoy absolute power over the region. This will lead to a more peaceful middle east.

2. It guarantees that nobody will ever go to war with Iran.

3. Our government will be forced to stop bullying Iran and actually treat them with respect, just like they do with North Korea and Pakistan.

4. It will be fun watching the Jews whine and complain and say "never again" 50,000 times on tv.

when is your student visa up?

Hawkeye 12-26-2003 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


when is your student visa up?

I am an American citizen.

AvsTgp 12-26-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye
Personally, I hope Iran manages to build a nuclear arsenal for a number of reasons:

1. Israel and the USA would no longer enjoy absolute power over the region. This will lead to a more peaceful middle east.

2. It guarantees that nobody will ever go to war with Iran.

3. Our government will be forced to stop bullying Iran and actually treat them with respect, just like they do with North Korea and Pakistan.

4. It will be fun watching the Jews whine and complain and say "never again" 50,000 times on tv.

Personally I hope you find a tall cliff that you can take a short walk off for a number of reasons

1) you wouldnt be able to post nonsense and waste my time reading it.

2)It guarantees your silence.

3)you would finally get the respect you are looking for.

4) it would be fun to have one less asshole and trust me we wouldnt whine and complain about losing you.

12clicks 12-26-2003 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye


I am an American citizen.

well, hopefully by the time you finish elementry school, you'll learn something about the world.

Hawkeye 12-26-2003 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks


well, hopefully by the time you finish elementry school, you'll learn something about the world.

Here's one thing that history has proven:

Nuclear weapons stop wars instead of starting them.

The more nukes, the better.

Brujah 12-26-2003 01:48 PM

Did Gulf War cause the Iran Quake ?
http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/7033-18.cfm

KRL 12-26-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Wrong.
Those muslim scum bags have the support of the people.
there might be a minority that people like to trot out when talking aboit change but its a minority.
KRL, its a nice thought, it simply isn't true.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/...ollresults.htm

They're brainwashed.

directfiesta 12-26-2003 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Its not the people in these countries that are bad people, it's their leaders that are the problem.
... LOL .... Just like in America....

http://smilies.sofrayt.com/%5E/c0/rotlaugh.gif

12clicks 12-26-2003 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL


They're brainwashed.

oh well.

Centurion 12-26-2003 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks

Wrong.
Those muslim scum bags have the support of the people.
there might be a minority that people like to trot out when talking aboit change but its a minority.
KRL, its a nice thought, it simply isn't true.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/sept11/...ollresults.htm

Wrong..oh so wrong. Iran is a nation in a state of change right now. The middle and upper class are getting tired of the mullahs and the heavy handed censorship. The young people have been openly revolving AGAINST the government. There have been MASSIVE demonstrations against the government. And the ONLY thing keeping the Mullahs in power is the military. And there have been many reports that the military is starting to lose it's incentive to go out and brutally put down these demonstrations.

The President of Iran is a "moderate" who is doing the best he can under difficult situations to move the country away from it's anti-west stature.

If you go the major cities of Iran, you will see women openly defying the Muslim demands for dress, and dressing in a very "Western" manner. This goes for the guys too. Not to mention the many western businesses that are open and flourishing in that country.

The people are tired of the old men that have run this country for the last 24 years. And while I'm not for an American invasion of Iran, I would say that in Iran, there would be MORE support from the people for the overthrow of their government than we have seen so far in Iraq!

Centurion 12-26-2003 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye


Here's one thing that history has proven:

Nuclear weapons stop wars instead of starting them.

The more nukes, the better.

You have to be either JOKING, or one of the dumbest people on the face on the planet!

"The more nukes the better"??

Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, they stop LIFE!
And they could stop the entire PLANET!

monro 12-26-2003 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye
Personally, I hope Iran manages to build a nuclear arsenal for a number of reasons:

1. Israel and the USA would no longer enjoy absolute power over the region. This will lead to a more peaceful middle east.

2. It guarantees that nobody will ever go to war with Iran.

3. Our government will be forced to stop bullying Iran and actually treat them with respect, just like they do with North Korea and Pakistan.

4. It will be fun watching the Jews whine and complain and say "never again" 50,000 times on tv.

First time I used bad words here, but you are a stinking asshole!

The moslems tried 4 times to "drive the jews into the sea" In other words, kill them all, no pardon.
They where beaten up 4 times as well. Now they kill women and children with hidden bombs. The only thing they can do is to humilate their women. And live on USA funds.

In the moslem world, in over 1000 years, there are no more books published than in Spain for one (1) year. Says a lot!

ludwig 12-26-2003 05:34 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion


Wrong..oh so wrong. Iran is a nation in a state of change right now. The middle and upper class are getting tired of the mullahs and the heavy handed censorship. The young people have been openly revolving AGAINST the government. There have been MASSIVE demonstrations against the government. And the ONLY thing keeping the Mullahs in power is the military. And there have been many reports that the military is starting to lose it's incentive to go out and brutally put down these demonstrations.

The President of Iran is a "moderate" who is doing the best he can under difficult situations to move the country away from it's anti-west stature.

If you go the major cities of Iran, you will see women openly defying the Muslim demands for dress, and dressing in a very "Western" manner. This goes for the guys too. Not to mention the many western businesses that are open and flourishing in that country.

The people are tired of the old men that have run this country for the last 24 years. And while I'm not for an American invasion of Iran, I would say that in Iran, there would be MORE support from the people for the overthrow of their government than we have seen so far in Iraq!

Finally, a sense of balance in the usual left/right nonsense.
If you can't see the the difference between black and white are you really colour blind? Or do you see grey?

12clicks 12-26-2003 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ludwig


Finally, a sense of balance in the usual left/right nonsense.
If you can't see the the difference between black and white are you really colour blind? Or do you see grey?

grey is an excuse to badmouth those doing the right thing because they aren't a member of your political party.

Pornwolf 12-26-2003 05:53 PM

Drive them into the sea? That would be a pretty bold move if it were possible.

Webby 12-26-2003 05:53 PM

12clicks:

Quote:

well, hopefully by the time you finish elementry school, you'll learn something about the world.
DUH??? :1orglaugh

That's classic coming from 12clicks!

Yea.. brainwashed was a word that stuck in my mind :thumbsup

Hawkeye 12-27-2003 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion


You have to be either JOKING, or one of the dumbest people on the face on the planet!

"The more nukes the better"??

Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, they stop LIFE!
And they could stop the entire PLANET!

Nuclear weapons have only been used once during war, and their use actually saved millions of lives.

Instead of launching a conventional invasion of Japan that would have cost millions of lives, the Japs surrendered quickly after having a couple of small nukes dropped on them.

I also guarantee that the US and USSR would have gone to war at some point during the Cold War if it wasn't for the fact that each side had nuclear weapons.

Given all the tension, animosity, and saber rattling between the two superpowers, the only thing that kept the peace were the nukes.

Also take a look at India and Pakistan. A couple of years ago they were about to go to war (again), but because each side now has nukes, they're more willing to sit at the bargaining table.

Hawkeye 12-27-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by monro


First time I used bad words here, but you are a stinking asshole!

The moslems tried 4 times to "drive the jews into the sea" In other words, kill them all, no pardon.
They where beaten up 4 times as well. Now they kill women and children with hidden bombs. The only thing they can do is to humilate their women. And live on USA funds.

Nuclear weapons now guarantee that Israel will not be "driven into the sea" by the muslims. Nukes are the best defense.

If Israel is allowed to have them, why not Iran?

Roger 12-27-2003 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
You have to be either JOKING, or one of the dumbest people on the face on the planet!

"The more nukes the better"??

Nuclear weapons don't stop wars, they stop LIFE!
And they could stop the entire PLANET!

He does have a point. Look at Pakistan and India, all of a sudden they're actually considering peace instead of the constant fighting that was going on before. Nobody is dumb enough to start a nuclear war and destroy his whole country.

cystum 12-27-2003 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye


Nuclear weapons now guarantee that Israel will not be "driven into the sea" by the muslims. Nukes are the best defense.

If Israel is allowed to have them, why not Iran?

cuz you cant trust the muslims, iran is a terrorist government, what will stop them from handing a bomb to a terrorist? they will go and blow up L.A, would you like that?

terrorists arnet people, true, nukes stop wars between people... but are terrorists people? no.... if had the ability you would be dead..

spamofon 12-27-2003 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AvsTgp
And like a sucker we help them and give money, im all for it, but watch them throw it back in our faces with terrorism and nuclear weapons.
Maybe the muslims will realize once and for all whos helping who, but fat chance!


who said Iran send terrorists ? and where da fuck do u see nuclear weapons??? You are retarted....

Centurion 12-27-2003 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hawkeye


Nuclear weapons have only been used once during war, and their use actually saved millions of lives.

Instead of launching a conventional invasion of Japan that would have cost millions of lives, the Japs surrendered quickly after having a couple of small nukes dropped on them.

I also guarantee that the US and USSR would have gone to war at some point during the Cold War if it wasn't for the fact that each side had nuclear weapons.

Given all the tension, animosity, and saber rattling between the two superpowers, the only thing that kept the peace were the nukes.

Also take a look at India and Pakistan. A couple of years ago they were about to go to war (again), but because each side now has nukes, they're more willing to sit at the bargaining table.

Yes...that was the US & USSR. Not Franistan on the Bosphorus sea!

And you use the example of India and Pakistan as a GOOD example of how nukes PREVENT war? :1orglaugh

Pakistan's military leader (dictator) has agreed to step down next year. He's almost been assasinated twice in the last 10 days. The great majority of Pakistani's hate the U.S., Israel, AND India. So, the extreme muslims takes over Pakistan with it's nuclear weapons and that's GOOD for world peace???

Centurion 12-27-2003 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roger


He does have a point. Look at Pakistan and India, all of a sudden they're actually considering peace instead of the constant fighting that was going on before. Nobody is dumb enough to start a nuclear war and destroy his whole country.

It's a bit scary how some of you view world events and sees things so calm and peaceful!

"Nobody is dumb enough to start a nuclear war.." I'll say the same thing to you that I said to Hawkeye: The great majority of Pakistani's hate the U.S., Israel, AND India. So, the extreme muslims takes over Pakistan with it's nuclear weapons and that's GOOD for world peace???

Remember suicide bombers? They didn't care if they died. How the heck can we believe that if the extremists get a hold of "the bomb" in Pakistan that they won't care if they're killed as long as they can destroy India or any other perceived enemy?

EZRhino 12-27-2003 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
Its not the people in these countries that are bad people, it's their leaders that are the problem.
When was the last time the leaders went out and did a suicide bombing.

HarlotCash Dyker 12-27-2003 03:27 PM

This thread makes pretty sad reading and shows some of you up as being pretty fucked up fools -
Several thousands of people are lying dead and many are still alive under tonnes of fallen building - Yet some of you are spouting total gutless crap.

Some people are in desperate need - It doesn't matter who they are or where they come from.

And for the records - The present rulers of Iran were put there via the wont and devious will of a previous American government -They supplied the dollars and bullets to a certain Mr. Hussain -

Webby 12-27-2003 04:33 PM

HarlotCash Dyker:

Quote:

This thread makes pretty sad reading and shows some of you up as being pretty fucked up fools
It's sad to see so many obvious "spoilt brats" who know nothing but use their mouths flippantly. The story would be different if their ass was under rubble...

Thank God they don't.. and never will, have any real responsibilty :)

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-27-2003 04:38 PM

OOp there is Webbie on his High Chair again...


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