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  • FTVGirls
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2002
    • 1052
    #1

    Should Smoking Be banned in Public Places?

    In my opinion, fuck yeah. I'm sick and tired of sitting having a meal, with a nice drift of cigarette smoke to batter up my taste buds.

    A smoking area in a restaurant is like having a peeing area in a swimming pool.
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    • Ic3m4nZ
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 6285
      #2
      Yesssss no doubt

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        • Headless
          Registered User
          • Jan 2001
          • 26727
          #3
          *lights anthoer one*

          ahhhhh tastes like chicken....

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            • Tala
              Fucked if I know
              • Dec 2002
              • 23368
              #4
              I remember the days of me and my cigarettes. I don't mind giving up smoking in restaurants but dammit, if I'm going to go to the pub to shoot some pool and have a couple of rounds with friends, leave me and my fuckin smokes alone. You want fresh air? Step the fuck outside.

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                • Spunky
                  I need a beer
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 133978
                  #5
                  We have had a smoking ban in public areas for over 3 or 4 years.
                  The clubs and bars just have designated areas ..makes life more enjoyable for the non smokers

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                    • CDSmith
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • May 2001
                      • 51460
                      #6
                      Originally posted by FTVGirls
                      A smoking area in a restaurant is like having a peeing area in a swimming pool.
                      Awesome. I am going to steal this expression and use it often.



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                        • cluck
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                          • Dec 2002
                          • 5248
                          #7
                          Public places like where? It already is banned anywhere. If you don't like it in a restaurant don't sit in the smoking section and if you don't like it in a bar go to a gay bar.
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                            • nofx
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                              • Nov 2002
                              • 16826
                              #8
                              no, buy a gasmask.

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                                • lagwagon
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Jul 2001
                                  • 8464
                                  #9
                                  hey dont make me drive over there and smack you for taking away my right to eat and smoke.

                                  FTVGirls - FTVMilfs - DanielleFTV

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                                    • CDSmith
                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                      • May 2001
                                      • 51460
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by cluck
                                      Public places like where? It already is banned anywhere. If you don't like it in a restaurant don't sit in the smoking section and if you don't like it in a bar go to a gay bar.
                                      How about just not puffing your poison where people are eating? Try -- if you want to smoke at a restaurant then get up, walk outside and light up all you want.
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                                        • cluck
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                                          • Dec 2002
                                          • 5248
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                          How about just not puffing your poison where people are eating? Try -- if you want to smoke at a restaurant then get up, walk outside and light up all you want.
                                          It's not like you're forcing it upon anyone else, smokers have their own section.
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                                            • beemk
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                                              • Jan 2002
                                              • 20829
                                              #12
                                              yes
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                                                • beemk
                                                  CLICK HERE
                                                  • Jan 2002
                                                  • 20829
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by cluck


                                                  It's not like you're forcing it upon anyone else, smokers have their own section.
                                                  yup, good thing they have those invisible walls that keep smoke from drifting to other areas.
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                                                    • Pipecrew
                                                      Master of Gfy.com
                                                      • Feb 2002
                                                      • 14888
                                                      #14
                                                      It is where I live, its 100 dollar fine if you try and light up and the place also gets fined.. Everything is soo much cleaner.

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                                                        • lagwagon
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                                                          • Jul 2001
                                                          • 8464
                                                          #15
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                                                            • cluck
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                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                              • 5248
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by beemk

                                                              yup, good thing they have those invisible walls that keep smoke from drifting to other areas.
                                                              So don't eat at those places. Not everything in life smells good. We have to shit, we have to take out the trash, smell pussy and sometimes some cigarette smoke will waft our way.
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                                                                • lagwagon
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                                                                  • Jul 2001
                                                                  • 8464
                                                                  #17
                                                                  you just said waft nice

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                                                                    • Sifu
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                                                                      • Oct 2003
                                                                      • 1791
                                                                      #18
                                                                      I AGREE THEY SHOULD NOT LET THEM SMOKE IN PUBLIC PLACES
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                                                                        • Manga1
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                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                          • 952
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Tala
                                                                          I remember the days of me and my cigarettes. I don't mind giving up smoking in restaurants but dammit, if I'm going to go to the pub to shoot some pool and have a couple of rounds with friends, leave me and my fuckin smokes alone. You want fresh air? Step the fuck outside.
                                                                          How about the people who work in the pub and have to breathe your poison just cause they're trying to make a buck?

                                                                          I can't believe people still smoke. It's so third world.

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                                                                            • anidifranco
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 711
                                                                              #20
                                                                              I remember the days of me and my clean air. I don't mind giving up clean air in restaurants but dammit, if I'm going to go to the pub to shoot some pool and have a couple of rounds with friends, leave me and my air alone. You want to smoke? Step the fuck outside.



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                                                                                • Tala
                                                                                  Fucked if I know
                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                  • 23368
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                  How about the people who work in the pub and have to breathe your poison just cause they're trying to make a buck?

                                                                                  I can't believe people still smoke. It's so third world.
                                                                                  Sorry to inform you of this, but most people who work in a BAR realize that they're going to be exposed to smoke and thus should have the common sense not to apply for a job there if they don't like it.

                                                                                  Move along.

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                                                                                    • Nasty D
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                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                      • 2563
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      yes


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                                                                                        • Tala
                                                                                          Fucked if I know
                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                          • 23368
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by anidifranco
                                                                                          I remember the days of me and my clean air. I don't mind giving up clean air in restaurants but dammit, if I'm going to go to the pub to shoot some pool and have a couple of rounds with friends, leave me and my air alone. You want to smoke? Step the fuck outside.



                                                                                          Very cute. You're Dubya's speech writer, aren't you?

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                                                                                            • Why
                                                                                              MFBA
                                                                                              • Mar 2003
                                                                                              • 7230
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              smoking in public is not legal here in austin texas. to an extent, i guess.

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                                                                                                • Manga1
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                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                  • 952
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tala
                                                                                                  Sorry to inform you of this, but most people who work in a BAR realize that they're going to be exposed to smoke and thus should have the common sense not to apply for a job there if they don't like it.

                                                                                                  Move along.
                                                                                                  Get a clue. Most people who work in bars do so because they can't make the same money anywhere else. Hence the saying "trapped in the bar business".

                                                                                                  Smokers are funny. They're the only people other than Al Quida who believe they have a right to poison others.

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                                                                                                    • katman
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                                                                                                      • Sep 2002
                                                                                                      • 230
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      FTV, are you from California?

                                                                                                      One one hand I do agree with you. Let's say in places like elevators, really enclosed places where it really does effect other people's possible health, asthma, etc.

                                                                                                      I am not above saying it is possible that second hand smoke may be a health risk although it has been shown there is no correlation between second hand smoke any cancer, but simple LA air is 20 times the health risk, and that IS a proven fact.

                                                                                                      However, smokers have the same rights anyone else does. Maybe restraunts should make more of a partition or something, but what you are talking about is not a health risk, considering the air outside in most cities is 20 times worse, but a simple annoyance. I don't like the smell of people with bad breath, smog, certain types of incense, shit, farts or many other things, but I don't try and make legislation against it unless it really poses a threat to my health or welfare. Anything else is just bitching.
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                                                                                                        • cluck
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                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                          • 5248
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                                          Get a clue. Most people who work in bars do so because they can't make the same money anywhere else. Hence the saying "trapped in the bar business".

                                                                                                          Smokers are funny. They're the only people other than Al Quida who believe they have a right to poison others.
                                                                                                          So the bar owner wants to have an establishment where his customers can smoke. Tough for the people who work there. What's next, homeowners not being able to smoke at home because they might slightly damage their maids lungs?
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                                                                                                            • Tala
                                                                                                              Fucked if I know
                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                              • 23368
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                                              Get a clue. Most people who work in bars do so because they can't make the same money anywhere else. Hence the saying "trapped in the bar business".

                                                                                                              Smokers are funny. They're the only people other than Al Quida who believe they have a right to poison others.
                                                                                                              Get a clue. Most people who work in bars are aware of the fact that they're going to have to deal with smoke before they're hired. They still take the job, then they have no right to bitch.

                                                                                                              I haven't had a smoke in 3 years, but that doesn't mean I'm going to tell someone else that they can't. Sorry, but I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up in a pub. What's next, smokers can't light up outside? In their own houses?

                                                                                                              I also mentioned that I don't mind smokers being asked not to smoke in restaurants. IMHO that's only fair. Food and smoke don't generally mix. But for fuck's sake, don't push the smokers out of their favorite pubs. That's just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.

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                                                                                                                • anidifranco
                                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                  • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                  • 711
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tala
                                                                                                                  Very cute. You're Dubya's speech writer, aren't you?
                                                                                                                  I don't want to state the obvious, but you wrote it.

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                                                                                                                    • axelcat
                                                                                                                      Adult Locals
                                                                                                                      • Jun 2002
                                                                                                                      • 25450
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Yes because second hand smoke kills

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                                                                                                                          • Nov 2002
                                                                                                                          • 15737
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by axelcat
                                                                                                                          Yes because second hand smoke kills
                                                                                                                          you've been lied to.

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                                                                                                                            • cluck
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                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                              • 5248
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              Originally posted by axelcat
                                                                                                                              Yes because second hand smoke kills
                                                                                                                              Nope, sorry, just propaganda from the early 90's made up by pussies who think the world has to smell just a certain way.
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                                                                                                                                • Tala
                                                                                                                                  Fucked if I know
                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                  • 23368
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by anidifranco


                                                                                                                                  I don't want to state the obvious, but you wrote it.
                                                                                                                                  I don't want to state the obvious, but you didn't get the joke.

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                                                                                                                                    • Tala
                                                                                                                                      Fucked if I know
                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                      • 23368
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by cluck


                                                                                                                                      Nope, sorry, just propaganda from the early 90's made up by pussies who think the world has to smell just a certain way.
                                                                                                                                      Made up by pussies who think they have the right to legislate people's behavior.

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                                                                                                                                        • katman
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by axelcat
                                                                                                                                          Yes because second hand smoke kills
                                                                                                                                          I know that was the thought for years, but it has recently been prooven otherwise, or maybe I should say that they, after all the years studying it, have not been able to make a correlation between second hand smoke and any effects on the subjects studied...just to be fair.
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                                                                                                                                            •  Smokey The Bear 
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                                                                                                              • 3880
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Sifu
                                                                                                                                              I AGREE THEY SHOULD NOT LET THEM SMOKE IN PUBLIC PLACES
                                                                                                                                              I blow smoke in the face of people like you. Because i know it bothers them. LOL

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                                                                                                                                                • Tala
                                                                                                                                                  Fucked if I know
                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                  • 23368
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Wow. This didn't turn into a pissing contest or anything.

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                                                                                                                                                    • cluck
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      So it takes 40-60 years of smoking a pack of cigarettes a day to get cancer and die usually. That means 20 times a day you inhale a whole cigarettes worth of thick, pure smoke. Inhaling about 1/1000th of the smoke particles from one of those cigarettes a day is going to kill you after how many years?
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                                                                                                                                                        • Manga1
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                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 952
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Tala
                                                                                                                                                          Get a clue. Most people who work in bars are aware of the fact that they're going to have to deal with smoke before they're hired. They still take the job, then they have no right to bitch.

                                                                                                                                                          I haven't had a smoke in 3 years, but that doesn't mean I'm going to tell someone else that they can't. Sorry, but I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up in a pub. What's next, smokers can't light up outside? In their own houses?

                                                                                                                                                          I also mentioned that I don't mind smokers being asked not to smoke in restaurants. IMHO that's only fair. Food and smoke don't generally mix. But for fuck's sake, don't push the smokers out of their favorite pubs. That's just being an ass for the sake of being an ass.
                                                                                                                                                          I agree with you to a point. I'm not going to tell anybody to put out their smoke unless they're exposing my kid to it. People want to kill themselves then let them. I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up either. I think it's the government's DUTY to ban smoking everywhere. It's not just a matter of what people like or dislike. It's a matter of public health. In the same way that the government bans the use of formaldehyde in buildings because it is known to cause cancer, the government should also ban smoking in all buildings for the same reason. Smoking kills. Second hand smoke kills. Why should it be tolerated?

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                                                                                                                                                            • gin
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                                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2003
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              smoker: want to hit this newport?
                                                                                                                                                              non smoker: no, that is nasty i eat apples and drink healthy milk all day long

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                                                                                                                                                                • cluck
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                                                                                                  I agree with you to a point. I'm not going to tell anybody to put out their smoke unless they're exposing my kid to it. People want to kill themselves then let them. I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up either. I think it's the government's DUTY to ban smoking everywhere. It's not just a matter of what people like or dislike. It's a matter of public health. In the same way that the government bans the use of formaldehyde in buildings because it is known to cause cancer, the government should also ban smoking in all buildings for the same reason. Smoking kills. Second hand smoke kills. Why should it be tolerated?
                                                                                                                                                                  Second hand smoke does not kill. Get up to date on your research. Unless you're blowing it into the face of someone who has severe asthma you're not damaging their lungs in any way.

                                                                                                                                                                  Think about how many carcinogens go through your tailpipe in your car every day. Think about all the ones in the food you give your kids and in pretty much everything else that humans consume. It's all a matter of which kind of cancer they're going to get when they're 80.
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                                                                                                                                                                    • anidifranco
                                                                                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 711
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by gin
                                                                                                                                                                      smoker: want to hit this newport?
                                                                                                                                                                      non smoker: no, that is nasty i eat apples and drink healthy milk all day long

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                                                                                                                                                                        • Manga1
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Oct 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by katman


                                                                                                                                                                          I know that was the thought for years, but it has recently been prooven otherwise, or maybe I should say that they, after all the years studying it, have not been able to make a correlation between second hand smoke and any effects on the subjects studied...just to be fair.
                                                                                                                                                                          Nonsense. There are mountains of documents proving the health risks of second hand smoke. You're just buying into the Philip Morris disinformation campaign.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • cluck
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by gin
                                                                                                                                                                              smoker: want to hit this newport?
                                                                                                                                                                              non smoker: no, that is nasty i eat apples and drink healthy milk all day long
                                                                                                                                                                              Because milk's oh so healthy
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                                                                                                                                                                                • katman
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                                                                                                                  I agree with you to a point. I'm not going to tell anybody to put out their smoke unless they're exposing my kid to it. People want to kill themselves then let them. I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up either. I think it's the government's DUTY to ban smoking everywhere. It's not just a matter of what people like or dislike. It's a matter of public health. In the same way that the government bans the use of formaldehyde in buildings because it is known to cause cancer, the government should also ban smoking in all buildings for the same reason. Smoking kills. Second hand smoke kills. Why should it be tolerated?
                                                                                                                                                                                  Does anyone seem to care about this fact...I refer to an earlier post that is scientificaly true, I might add...

                                                                                                                                                                                  "So it takes 40-60 years of smoking a pack of cigarettes a day to get cancer and die usually. That means 20 times a day you inhale a whole cigarettes worth of thick, pure smoke. Inhaling about 1/1000th of the smoke particles from one of those cigarettes a day is going to kill you after how many years?"
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • Manga1
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by cluck


                                                                                                                                                                                      Second hand smoke does not kill. Get up to date on your research. Unless you're blowing it into the face of someone who has severe asthma you're not damaging their lungs in any way.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Think about how many carcinogens go through your tailpipe in your car every day. Think about all the ones in the food you give your kids and in pretty much everything else that humans consume. It's all a matter of which kind of cancer they're going to get when they're 80.
                                                                                                                                                                                      So according to your logic we should not bother doing anything because we're all going to get cancer one way or another. That's very progressive. Congratulations on your inovative thinking.

                                                                                                                                                                                      BTW, second hand smoke does kill. Don't believe the hype.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Tala
                                                                                                                                                                                          Fucked if I know
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 23368
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Manga1


                                                                                                                                                                                          I agree with you to a point. I'm not going to tell anybody to put out their smoke unless they're exposing my kid to it. People want to kill themselves then let them. I don't think it's the right of a non-smoking person to demand that a smoker not be allowed to light up either. I think it's the government's DUTY to ban smoking everywhere. It's not just a matter of what people like or dislike. It's a matter of public health. In the same way that the government bans the use of formaldehyde in buildings because it is known to cause cancer, the government should also ban smoking in all buildings for the same reason. Smoking kills. Second hand smoke kills. Why should it be tolerated?
                                                                                                                                                                                          Whoa. That is so 1984 (Orwellian).

                                                                                                                                                                                          Dude, you fuckin scare the shit outta me.

                                                                                                                                                                                          It is not the government's responsibility to keep me healthy. It is my responsibility, just as it is yours to keep yourself healthy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • anidifranco
                                                                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 711
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              According to the most recent 2001 statistics from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), 7.2% of U.S. adults have current asthma. Massachusetts is the state with the highest rate of self-reported asthma at 9.5%, Maine and Rhode Island are next at 9.4%, and all the New England states have higher than average rates. (See www.cdc.gov )

                                                                                                                                                                                              Asthma is the most common chronic childhood disease and affects more than one child in every fifteen under the age of 18.

                                                                                                                                                                                              The cost of asthma in 2000 was estimated to be $20 billion, exceeding the combined total costs of AIDS and tuberculosis.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Approximately 18 million Americans suffer from asthma, and 6 million of those people are under the age of 18.


                                                                                                                                                                                              Among children ages 5 to 17, asthma is the leading cause of school absences from a chronic illness and is responsible for more hospitalizations than any other childhood disease.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Asthma also accounts for about 1.8 million emergency room visits and 10 million doctors' office visits a year.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Each day 14 Americans die from asthma.



                                                                                                                                                                                              Tobacco smoke triggers asthma symptoms and makes people with asthma more vulnerable to attacks.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Tobacco smoke harms 50 million Americans with asthma and allergies.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Exposure to tobacco smoke worsens symptoms of asthma in 200,000 to 1 million children.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • Manga1
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Oct 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 952
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Tala
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Whoa. That is so 1984 (Orwellian).

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Dude, you fuckin scare the shit outta me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  It is not the government's responsibility to keep me healthy. It is my responsibility, just as it is yours to keep yourself healthy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Is it the government's responsibility to protect you from some nutcase spraying anthrax onto a crowded subway platform you are standing on? What's the difference?

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Here's a study by the World Health Organization in 1999 on the effects of second hand smoke on children http://www.smoke-free.ca/pdf_1/whoreportchart.PDF

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • cluck
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 5248
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by anidifranco
                                                                                                                                                                                                      According to the most recent 2001 statistics from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), 7.2% of U.S. adults have current asthma. Massachusetts is the state with the highest rate of self-reported asthma at 9.5%, Maine and Rhode Island are next at 9.4%, and all the New England states have higher than average rates. (See www.cdc.gov )

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Asthma is the most common chronic childhood disease and affects more than one child in every fifteen under the age of 18.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The cost of asthma in 2000 was estimated to be $20 billion, exceeding the combined total costs of AIDS and tuberculosis.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Approximately 18 million Americans suffer from asthma, and 6 million of those people are under the age of 18.


                                                                                                                                                                                                      Among children ages 5 to 17, asthma is the leading cause of school absences from a chronic illness and is responsible for more hospitalizations than any other childhood disease.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Asthma also accounts for about 1.8 million emergency room visits and 10 million doctors' office visits a year.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Each day 14 Americans die from asthma.



                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tobacco smoke triggers asthma symptoms and makes people with asthma more vulnerable to attacks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tobacco smoke harms 50 million Americans with asthma and allergies.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Exposure to tobacco smoke worsens symptoms of asthma in 200,000 to 1 million children.
                                                                                                                                                                                                      So don't bring your kids to a bar and don't sit them in the smoking section or near it.
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