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12clicks 12-08-2003 09:37 AM

Bush & Blair lied! here's the proof:
 
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/12886.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in587251.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3297771.stm

oops, I mean, I guess they weren't lying after all.


Now lets see how long it takes the liberal kiddies to explain how this guy has been paid to make these statements to fool us.
:1orglaugh

JDog 12-08-2003 09:40 AM

Actually, I don't think Blair lied. I think that it was bush lying, and Blair thought he was telling the truth! I respect Blair, and don't think that he'd do something like that!

jDoG

12clicks 12-08-2003 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog
Actually, I don't think Blair lied. I think that it was bush lying, and Blair thought he was telling the truth! I respect Blair, and don't think that he'd do something like that!

jDoG

Odd since the info came from the UK.
but hey, it is a unique opinion.
:thumbsup

triumph 12-08-2003 09:44 AM

Tell us something we dont know!

Flow 12-08-2003 09:44 AM

Thats funny because just two weeks ago one of the top WMD scientists was quoted by the same sources as saying there were closer to landing on the moon then they were to developing WMD.

He said they were constantly lying to the world because Saddam thought if they had WMD the US would not attack them.

My guess is the source of this story just got a really nice house and "goverment assistance" that will make him very wealthy for years to come for his "story"

Until we actually find those WMD, I won't believe anything that comes out of the Bush controlled press.

Flow

Rick Latona 12-08-2003 09:44 AM

Go get them 12Clicks.

CoolE 12-08-2003 09:44 AM

Quote:

An Iraqi colonel has confirmed that Saddam Hussein had secret weapons of mass destruction - and revealed that front-line commanders were given warheads that could be launched against coalition forces within 45 minutes.
Cool. Now where exactly are these warheads so his story can be confirmed?

Flow 12-08-2003 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flow
Thats funny because just two weeks ago one of the top WMD scientists was quoted by the same sources as saying they were closer to landing on the moon then they were to developing WMD.

He said they were constantly lying to the world because Saddam thought if they had WMD the US would not attack them.

My guess is the source of this story just got a really nice house and "goverment assistance" that will make him very wealthy for years to come for his "story"

Until we actually find those WMD, I won't believe anything that comes out of the Bush controlled press.

Flow


greentea 12-08-2003 09:45 AM

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/bush_and_blair.jpg

unconnected 12-08-2003 09:46 AM

ahahah, this is too much..
Here, how about Bush just sends me 80 million, and I will take full responsibility for spreading the rumours of WMD's.. Give me a fucking break.. Please tell me Americans aren't such mindless sheep to believe this shit..
Isn't strange that this is coming out right when the anti-bush election campaigns are starting to be aired on TV?

Thrawn$ 12-08-2003 09:46 AM

So where are these weapon Mr 12clicks?
or you just trying to win a xbox

TDF 12-08-2003 09:47 AM

armchair politicans are cool..,,changing the world,one post at a time

stocktrader23 12-08-2003 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CoolE
Cool. Now where exactly are these warheads so his story can be confirmed?
Bush is having them manufactured as we speak. :1orglaugh

digi 12-08-2003 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/12886.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in587251.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3297771.stm

oops, I mean, I guess they weren't lying after all.


Now lets see how long it takes the liberal kiddies to explain how this guy has been paid to make these statements to fool us.
:1orglaugh

how come you believe these statements and not statements from iraqi scientists etc who claim there was no way saddam had any WMD's. Its convinient to pick and choose among articles huh.

Thrawn$ 12-08-2003 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by greentea
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/bush_and_blair.jpg
it's the opposite, should switch the faces

Flow 12-08-2003 09:49 AM

Actually what really slays me is that any adult webmaster could possible not concider themselves liberals.

How the fuck can anybody in this biz support Bush. He and his staff have targeted the adult industry as evil and they will stop at nothing to get it eliminated.

Supporting Bush is almost as bad as coming on here and saying you fully support Acaicia and their cause and that we should all bend down to them and do whatever they ask of us.

Flow

tony286 12-08-2003 09:50 AM

If they had these WMD and they were getting their asses kicked why didnt they use them? Saddam is this monster ,so it should of been no problem for him to launch.

The Truth Hurts 12-08-2003 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Flow

He and his staff have targeted the adult industry as evil and they will stop at nothing to get it eliminated.

still waiting for this one.
been 3 years now.
shit has happened.

Libertine 12-08-2003 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/12886.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in587251.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3297771.stm

oops, I mean, I guess they weren't lying after all.


Now lets see how long it takes the liberal kiddies to explain how this guy has been paid to make these statements to fool us.
:1orglaugh

While it is not at all impossible that there are WMD in Iraq, this guy's claims aren't really evidence at all for anything. What people tend to forget is that the whole lying part has very little to do with the actual existence of WMD in Iraq. It could be that there are no WMD, while Bush and Blair had good reasons to believe they were there, and it could be that there are WMD, while Bush and Blair had no reasons whatsoever to believe they existed. A lie is defined by the relation between claims and knowledge, not by the relation between claims and reality.

crockett 12-08-2003 10:16 AM

so we are supose to belive the guy that gave them the info in the 1st place? yea right... Think about this, if these weapons were dilevered to the front lines we would have found them..

On top of that, they would have been leaked into the hands of the rebals that are now fighting us in the streets now.. You think the guys fighting us now would have any problem using them?

ThunderBalls 12-08-2003 10:28 AM

<b>'Al-Dabbagh said the only reason the weapons were not used was because the bulk of the Iraqi army did not want to fight for Saddam.'</b>


What a fucking joke.

directfiesta 12-08-2003 10:29 AM

That's the best you can come up with, 12shits??? After 2-4 months of looking for one article, and thats it...

LOL , look what the guy got in exchange:

Quote:

Al-Dabbagh, now an adviser to Iraq's Governing Council,
How come, as an ex "head o Iraqi air defense ... " he is not in ther deck of cards ( most wanted...)...

So if I have no money in by bank account, it doesn;t mean I am not a millionnaire, so in fact I am a millionnaire...

Proof is done by the presence of the items, not by it's absence...

:1orglaugh

Rich 12-08-2003 10:47 AM

Sure, they're all over the place, only they didn't use any when they were getting bombed to shit and the US hasn't found one. Understandable.


Best part of that article:

Quote:

The claim created a firestorm of controversy when Dr. David Kelly, a bioweapons expert with the British defense ministry, committed suicide after it was revealed he told the BBC that the government included the claim to "sex up" the dossier. The whole affair sparked a number of probes into Tony Blair's government.
hahaha, yeah that makes sense, the gov. found out he dimed them out to the BBS so HE killed HIMSELF. lol



Sure, that one story you dug up there 12clicks provides a shred of hope to you hardcore right wingers that MAYBE your commander and jackass didn't lie to you over and over again. And MAYBE he didn't sell you on a war that made his friends rich, and killed hundreds of your soldiers. Keep believing that, it's funny to the rest of us. Smart people will say show me some fucking proof.

I'd be more focused on these articles if I were you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/3081006.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3137882.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3157246.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3162092.stm
http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynam...MPLATE=DEFAULT

They don't have WMD.
They weren't involved with Osama Bin Laden or 9/11.
The mass graves are from before the first war.
There is no legitimate reason for this invasion.
You have been snowed.
Your kids are in dept.
Sucks for you guys.
God Bless Jean Chretien.

galleryseek 12-08-2003 11:05 AM

well of course they aren't going to find WMD right off the bat within a year or even several years.. they had a whole country to hide 'um in. and i imagine they can't be all that physically big. findin a needle in a haystack.

gb4life

ThunderBalls 12-08-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
well of course they aren't going to find WMD right off the bat within a year or even several years.. they had a whole country to hide 'um in. and i imagine they can't be all that physically big. findin a needle in a haystack.

gb4life


Uh if they were delivered to the front lines like this puppet says they would have found them in the first days of the war.

directfiesta 12-08-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
well of course they aren't going to find WMD right off the bat within a year or even several years.. they had a whole country to hide 'um in. and i imagine they can't be all that physically big. findin a needle in a haystack.

gb4life

Read yourself again before pressing " reply"...

The US can bomb the 3rd toilet bowl from the 2nd left wall on the 3rd flloor of the 7th building on the 4th avenue of Bagdad...

And they can't fing one single fucking WMD.... LOL.. LOL...LOL...RSNGELOLDREVLOL ...

PS: is by the end of this century enough time... a few months were too many for the 40 something US inspectors.. with limited access...

Can you even consider that if you do not find them, it is because THEY DON'T EXIST?

directfiesta 12-08-2003 11:14 AM

Or send this guy in... He IS a HERO!

https://www.talkingpresidents.com/Me...flightsuit.jpg

rooster 12-08-2003 11:30 AM

in 1995 they said they had them but destroyed them. 1) its common sense that the amount they admitted they had was probably a fraction of what they have. 2) they said they destroyed them. Keep in mind these are the same guys that said we were 100 miles from bahgdad when we were across the street from them.


I firmly believe that the ultra sociallistic attitude that is running rampant thru europe and canada is going to be the death of western society.

Its that same type attitude that would have let the commies have free reign to do whatever they want.

It just dont work.

Rich 12-08-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster

I firmly believe that the ultra sociallistic attitude that is running rampant thru europe and canada is going to be the death of western society.

Its that same type attitude that would have let the commies have free reign to do whatever they want.

It just dont work.

hahahaha, yeah having an un-elected illiterate cowboy launching unnecessary first strike attacks and starting a fucking holy war isn't going to be the end of western society, it's going to be THE PEOPLE WHO QUESTION HIM. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

rooster 12-08-2003 11:41 AM

yea, clintons policies sure prevented terroists, opps.


Get it thru your head, these guys dont care about republicans and democrats. Both groups are controlled by zionists, it makes no difference to them.

Rich 12-08-2003 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rooster
yea, clintons policies sure prevented terroists, opps.


Get it thru your head, these guys dont care about republicans and democrats. Both groups are controlled by zionists, it makes no difference to them.

You're such a retard, this thread is about Iraq, not terrorism. Jackass, stop watching Fox news for 15 seconds and maybe you'd be able to see how they're different issues. Not all Muslims want to kill you. Calling someone who questions this war "ultra sociallistic" is about the most absurd thing I've ever heard. Oh and from now on, if you're going to use big words you don't understand, at least run them through your spell checker.

radical 12-08-2003 12:08 PM

Blair is still Bush's poodle :thumbsup

Rich 12-08-2003 12:15 PM

Oh and 12clicks, you can stop posting as rooster to make it look like someone else is as narrow headed as yourself. You're not fooling anyone anymore.

Centurion 12-08-2003 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tony404
If they had these WMD and they were getting their asses kicked why didnt they use them? Saddam is this monster ,so it should of been no problem for him to launch.
Exactly..and isn't it amazing that **100%** of the troops with these rpg wmds decided NOT to shoot them. What are the chances of that?

Also..I saw the interview on NBC. The guy kept his face darkened and voice changed so NO ONE would know who he really is. Why the fuck is this dude hiding his identity?

Finally, these "WMDS" (IF they even existed) were like capsules imbedded in a grenade. How leathal is that? The grenade would have been more lethal. These were not SCUD missiles or other missles armed with bio-chemical weapons. At least that is the information given out on NBC news Saturday night.

And then there is a PS. If the troops were afraid of "pissing off the americans", and buried them in the sand, why doesn't just ONE person come forward and say "They're HERE!" Amazing that 100% keep their mouths shut! Or better yet, why doesn't the RESISTANCE that is fighting American troops USE THESE FUCKING SO CALLED WMDS NOW?

This story is so full of holes it sounds like it was made in Switzerland!

Centurion 12-08-2003 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by galleryseek
well of course they aren't going to find WMD right off the bat within a year or even several years.. they had a whole country to hide 'um in. and i imagine they can't be all that physically big. findin a needle in a haystack.

gb4life

If they're so SMALL and hard to find..then why doesn't the resistance USE THEM NOW against American troops? EH?
Don't tell me it's because they don't know where they are. SOMEONE knows..they supposedly BURIED THEM!

Mr.Fiction 12-08-2003 01:06 PM

http://www.wibx950.com/photo/talk-rush.jpg

The only proof right wingers need. :1orglaugh

xxxdesign-net 12-08-2003 01:10 PM

wow, Saddam was very unlucky... of ALL people that fight along Saddam, all his Fedayeen and Special Republican Guard Commenders in possessions and control of those warhead were unloyal and decided and they wouldnt fight under Saddam and wouldnt launch the war heads... Not even one decided to launch a warhead.... mmmmh

btw, whats the best way to "prove" you were right without finding the non-existant WMD ? Have a top colonel do a confession and tellling that the WMD are very carefully hidden.. nearly unfindable :thumbsup

Tytan 12-08-2003 01:10 PM

Who cares

:)

Roger 12-08-2003 01:41 PM

Let me get this straight. Soldiers were given WMD's to defend themselves but instead of doing so they decided to hide the WMD's in the middle of a damn war?

For God's sake we've got satellites who are able to take pictures of an underground lab in North Korea and yet those few soldiers have been able to defeat all of those technologies and hide the WMD's without even caring to tell the Americans where they are :)

And I'm guessing the Fedayeen gave all the WMD's they had to the soldiers and left nothing for themselves but the standard grenades and Kalashnikov's. If that's the case and they're really that stupid, then they're no threat to anyone.

Ross 12-08-2003 01:42 PM

Bush and Blair are both in love with each other. They are two faggots who can't even run their countries.

America's economy is fucked up and Bush does nothing to fix it. Britain is just a shithole and Blair does nothing to fix it.

Roger 12-08-2003 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion


If they're so SMALL and hard to find..then why doesn't the resistance USE THEM NOW against American troops? EH?
Don't tell me it's because they don't know where they are. SOMEONE knows..they supposedly BURIED THEM!

What are you talking about? The Aliens took them to there home land.

Roger 12-08-2003 01:47 PM

The guy who made those claims works for the Iraqi governing council. Geez, that's a surprise :)

xxxdesign-net 12-08-2003 02:02 PM

oh, and btw.. if they didnt like Saddam.. and DISOBEY his orders by not launching the the warheads... why in hell were they all concerned about hiding the WMVs for Saddam!!?

Btw, did the Bush administration ask hollywood this time for that story... !?

AngEl 3 12-08-2003 02:13 PM

i don't like both this guys

Pleasurepays 12-08-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/12886.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in587251.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3297771.stm

oops, I mean, I guess they weren't lying after all.


Now lets see how long it takes the liberal kiddies to explain how this guy has been paid to make these statements to fool us.
:1orglaugh

How is this any different than all the other exiles they quoted and took seriously? Someone said something against Saddam. So what? There were tons of Iraqi exiles saying the same things again and again.

same shit.
different day.

I dont doubt for a second that they had weapons of mass destruction. This was never in dispute... not even by the UN Inspectors.

It's pretty unfortuneate that they couldn't find anything. does not say a whole lot for US intelligence and their case for war.

Pleasurepays 12-08-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross
Bush and Blair are both in love with each other. They are two faggots who can't even run their countries.

America's economy is fucked up and Bush does nothing to fix it. Britain is just a shithole and Blair does nothing to fix it.


hahah. your from Scotland?

funny.

we understand your anger and frustration. we would not want to be in your shoes.

Centurion 12-08-2003 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ross
Bush and Blair are both in love with each other. They are two faggots who can't even run their countries.

America's economy is fucked up and Bush does nothing to fix it. Britain is just a shithole and Blair does nothing to fix it.

HEY! Don't sully the good name of faggots everywhere by lumping in Bush & Blair with us!:1orglaugh

12clicks 12-08-2003 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Oh and 12clicks, you can stop posting as rooster to make it look like someone else is as narrow headed as yourself. You're not fooling anyone anymore.
dear [leader], unlike the common rabble, I only ever need one name.
I also don't ever feel the need for someone else's validation to be right.
My being right is a state of being, not a perception open to interpretation or needful of 3rd party support.:thumbsup

12clicks 12-08-2003 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by digi


how come you believe these statements and not statements from iraqi scientists etc who claim there was no way saddam had any WMD's. Its convinient to pick and choose among articles huh.

you children confuse nuclear weapons with WMDs. kinda shows why your thoughts on the subject are unimportant.

were the kurds and iranians gassed or did someone scare them to death?:1orglaugh

Ic3m4nZ 12-08-2003 02:49 PM

50 people who want to shot Bush


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