Have you seen the members area of this fucking site..
 

you promote.


?? Do you care about what the surfer gets..I tell you, if I had the money I whould a buy a membership to every site before I started to promote it..I go on reputation, you?

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If i do PPS then i don't care.. if i'm doing partnership then i want to see the members area first yea..

ín general i have seen it yes

but in most cases it works for me like this

PPS: i dont care about it
Sponsors like Topbucks convert very good on my SE traffic... but i recently saw their members area and OMFG - horrible
even the reality content they offer
the movies are in an aweful quality... but in the end.. its none of my business
its their job to convert the surfer
i only get paid for the join

PPP: totally different... if i promote a % program i wanna see the members area and some proof that my signups will recur at a certain percentage before i send joins

thats how i do it
and it works :winkwink:

qiet logical..but if the members area is shit in a PPS, why promote it? shave? bounced checks? etc..

I only use without pop-ups tours if it's possible..they are annoying.

:glugglug

But if they has a shitty members area..they must get the money somewhere, shaving webmasters? upsells to what?

I don't say that I'm right.

:glugglug

lets stay with topbucks
ive seen what they give the members and they are selling toys, dvds, pills.....
i am sure they make some good cash on upsells, yes

but again
i dont really care how they money... not really my problem :)

as far as shaving goes..
possible...
who knows? i dont

what i know is that i am doing way below 1:70 with them
thats enough info for me :winkwink:

I belive that there is shitty buyers too..and that's probably why every free offer doesn't payout and instead shave.

Just a specalation, if we take clickcash as an example and say that you get 10 sign ups from SE traffic instead of 10 sign ups from TGP traffic or gallery traffic..isn't this SE hits sign ups worth more? It's fresh millionaires that jump in from the SE's right?

This traffic is worth more $ than from other sources? no shaving?

What do you think?


:2 cents:

That's cool :), maybe you want to post your sites here so I can study a little :Graucho

maybe :)
bet maybe better not hehe

dude i love your sig :)

most paysites suck...it is sad but true...
so I dont even borther looking at them anymore...

That is what I have discovered from the few members areas I have looked into. I don't bother looking anymore either (I do PPS).

I figure if the sponsor has been around a while they must know what the hell they are doing. But it makes you wonder how many have any sort of retention at all. Perhaps its all the upsells within the site that makes them the money.

We only promote sponsors with whom we can cultivate a one to one relationship. We ICQ or E-mail , sometimes phone and talk to the owners to see how they do business. We will no longer deal with fly by night companies who are only out to make a fast buck. We need first class support, content and sometimes special tours and the sponsors we are with now give us all that and more. We are talking affiliate programs, we don't get involved with PPS as we make more with Partnerships.

Cindy xx

always a good idea to checkout the members areas for sites ypu push


Buy a membership and check in stats for it.

I think most sponsors would be cool with that as long as you told them right after:2 cents:

That's first class Cindy...> for those that don't do like this. If you own a free site and you send your visitors to sponsors that doesn't hold there promises. Maybe he buys with a tear in his eye?? You know those people that wants to sell you and never stops, and you just buy to shut them up and you feel like shit afterwards??.

Do you think this people will continue to buy memberships from your tgp/free site? When they gets out from this paysite they will probably just stay happy with the pics some other free site offer..don't recommend shit people..:2 cents:

That's how free loaders was born maybe :winkwink:

I'm talking about upsells in my last post..selling is an relationship not putting products in costumers cart.

Just so you know I haven't checked out any members areas..but if they feel manade to buy then it's very bad biz.

:2 cents:

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Contact the Sponsor! I have always Emailed, called or Icq, and received a pass to see the members area...

why buy a pass when you can just email the people who run it and get one for free? That's what I do

i try and get a user name and password to every site before i consider sending it traffic.

if i rub one out, ill send it traffic. if not, no clicks 4 u!

I do because Im not risking the integrity of my business by sending people to shit sites. So far all the sites Ive went to except one fan site (someones bf made with about 100 pics) have been great. You would be surprised what some people charge money for. I agree check out the free trials or pay the $6 for the three day trials (just dont do chargebacks) and you will be better off.

I am not sure I can judge good porn so why bother.

PPS - I really don't care.

REV - I care as I want them to stay but BlacksonBlondes rocks and I can't stand that stuff. I have read reviews of people dogging the members area, and I still make $$ every month on them. Lightspeed has nice sites with good ideas to increase retention, I hear the members areas are good and I can't get my folks to stay.

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