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Would you pay for a service that features most if not all sponsor hosted galleries and gives you short text descriptions for each? How about an added feature where you get small thumbs from the galleries to your specifications? Please post your opinions here.

i wouldnt need it for my setup but I am sure some people might find it usefull

Your setup looks like you use small thumbnail samples from SHGs. Would such a service interest you?

the thumbnails are easy.. ImageMagick and proper scripting :thumbsup

but it depends on the price I suppose, it could prove useful under certain circumstances. As long as it can be downloaded in a flat-text file daily or easily pulled in a standard format to update the tgp automatically.

Good idea :thumbsup but the only problem I have when thinking about this is everybody ends up with same descriptions or do you mean to supply everybody with custom descriptions..?

Basically, it will look like this format (number of pics)(short description -- you decide length)(link with your ref code)

Basically, I'd treat it like content. Custom jobs vs. "off the shelf" stuff. I do have some ideas in mind in order to prevent 'description saturation'

Or a random description pool maybe? But the drawback to that would be that the more descriptions were in the pool, the more generic they'd be.

Exactly. The value proposition here is 1) accuracy of descriptions 2) preventive measures re saturation 3) written to entice the user to click

gotta love $5 submissions. his noggin is always workin overtime on how to make more dough :-)

that's what I was thinking, but maybe a number of random description pools, so each description pool is only used by a certain number of webmasters..

Maybe there's a more passive but effective way to prevent saturation. Either way, it would be like shopping for clothes... different styles but all fit. All have to be well written though.

I've just finished writting descriptions for 3500 hosted galleries, not much fun... Don't think I'd want to do it 5 more times just for a rotation.

btw I'm doing this for a script that does hosted gallery submissions with your sponsor codes for free...

[email protected]

-Ben

Indeed.. for $16 a day I should just hire him full time to make money for me. :1orglaugh it's like sponsoring one of those Sally Struthers kids.

did someone say free? :Graucho how do you intend on making money off this venture?

Yea, that'd be easy. Once the scripting is in place, just build on that.

Except this Sally Struthers kid has a higher IQ and has an advanced degree!:thumbsup

Whenever someon mentions "scripting" my skin crawls. Just as Charlie don't surf...bots can't write!

I work a shitload of hours every day and it's not enough. I love this biz!:thumbsup

I load up a list of SPH galleries into a DB and then the db updates the sites hourly and rotates shit arouns

still wouldn't you like something that you have to do next to no updating to apart from (copy&paste) input/uploading etc...?

To better answer your question $5.

I'm found interest in this kind of thing to be modest. Probably not
enough demand for a paid service. Especially considering there
are free services popping up.

Free = 5% of galleries with my sponsor code, 95% with yours.

-Ben

They update by themselves hourly via cron i dont touch em at all

Please post url of free services that follow the 5/95 split biz model.

okay.. :glugglug

And for the bigger TGPs or those that are using lots of blog/journal/messageboard traffic as add ons, custom text is key to making this work. There's definitely two markets for this.

It's a great idea, but just like Juicy, I have mine update hourly via a cron job. I'd be interested in the final product though for some other TGP sites I'm looking to start up. :thumbsup

$5 No URL but just email me if you're interested [email protected] .... Maybe we can work something cool out.

-Ben

Do the galleries have the TGP owner's code in them or yours?

I would pay to have new sponsor galleries mailed to me in a txt file with my codes already inserted (or info on where to sign up), broken down by niche. For starting up it would be a lot faster obviously but would take out the searching for new galleries too.

I just add mine to a text file and let php dish it out randomly :)

control the niche with the filenames for the php file

The galleries would have to have the TGP owners code in them otherwise there would be no point to it. The idea here should be to supply webmasters with a txt file something like:
15|http://www.Gallery-URL.com|Gallery Description
So you have number of pics in gallery, gallery url with your ref-code & custom gallery descriptions or off the shelf gallery descriptions. Then just copy and paste into your TGP script. :2 cents:

This solution would save so much time for the tgp webmaster. Create better clickthroughs as well.

This benefits the surfer because they have a better idea of what to expect and will bookmark the site more than a site with "blind" ie., non described links.

Benefits of a text tgp as opposed to a picture thumb-based index tgp is that you are able to fit more material in the same space and you also filter your traffic better.

This also benefits all tgp webmasters because this puts the onus on sponsors to crank out SHGs at a faster pace with fresher content than the current trend

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lets see some more opinions on this...

I would consider using it, if you mamualy made all the thumbs to be high pulling... if you just used a script to make the thumbs I may as well do it myself.

From my experience, specific and accurate text links generate more click throughs than either generic descriptions (e.g. 19 toons) or those "face" shot thumbs. Face shot thumb galleries get really boring after a while and you better have your cron job up to speed cua burnout rate is high.

already been done.
many people using it.

Please post URLs. Are these free, by the way?

Damn it's about 390+ TGP owners here, or just nosy:winkwink:

Out of 5 or 6,000 registered webmasters, that's a pretty low % actually.

You could offer a free service that skims 5% of the sponsor codes and provides the same description to all. Plus a paid service which does not skim and guarantees that the specific description will only be used by a maximum of say 10 TGPs, ie if you had 100 paying clients you'd write 10 variations of the description.

That's a good setup, gives webmasters choice and providing a good service.:thumbsup

Most Thumb Preview software will create thumbs automatically, so this service would only be useful if you did carefully selected and composed hand-crops.

sorry - a one time fee would be acceptable (and I have done this several times already)

but honestly, the best gallery descriptions I know of come from ME

so, I hope this service takes off like gangbusters :Graucho

The problem with the assertion of those guys who say that this has been done before is that to SKIM traffic, you have to control that traffic. How can you control SHG traffic when you're giving the link description (cut to the webmaster's specification) in data pipe format when you're not storing the URL on your server? All links will have the webmaster's ref codes.

What's preventing webmasters from running a Search and global replace of your ref code with theirs?

True, you just have to trust that webmasters will be honest and pay you back for using a useful service.. It's like a type of webmaster karma, what goes around comes around.. If they just use the links as provided they will be successful, while if they get greedy and cut your ref code, well it will come back to bite them in the ass hopefully..:thumbsup

url? to a site providing custom shg's descriptions... I have not seen one & I've been looking..

There is no way for it to come back and bite webmasters in the ass, they would just endup with free shg's descriptions for a while.. but if you have all shg's listed & they pay for custom descriptions (custom to 1 or maybe to 10 max) they get a service that doesn't seem to be around? urls? - (to get shg's descriptions with your sponsor ref urls in a format ready to be pasted in to tgp scripts.)
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I haven't seen any services that offer custom description galleries. And even if they exist, I'm sure they are expensive.

Even the people who say there are generic services out there using a skimming business model are quite oblivious to the fact that many webmasters end up using the same descriptions over and over again.