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FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 06:44 AM

Are boys different than girls?
 
Do you think we live by different rules? should girls get away with things that boys cant and vice versa?

I mean like a girl can hit a guy (as long as she aint stronger) and it should be ok, but a guy hits a girl and its bad?

A guy can sleep around and not be a slut... but a girl does it and she is a whore?

... part of me agrees with this but part of me doesnt....

im really confused....

can some of you help me?

:(

Forest 11-24-2003 06:47 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer

A guy can sleep around and not be a slut... but a girl does it and she is a whore?


:(

BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!

I am a SLUT and proud of it

:1orglaugh :Graucho :thumbsup

Forest 11-24-2003 06:47 AM

p.s.

i wish i was a whore

then id be getting paid to be a slut



:1orglaugh :winkwink:

Libertine 11-24-2003 06:51 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
I mean like a girl can hit a guy (as long as she aint stronger) and it should be ok, but a guy hits a girl and its bad?

This part is mostly about not beating up people weaker than you. I wouldn't hit a 5 ft guy for the same reason I wouldn't hit a woman... it just isn't a fair fight.
On the other hand, if some chick was just as strong as me or stronger, I would have no problems whatsoever with fighting her.

Reak 11-24-2003 06:54 AM

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Originally posted by Forest


BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!

I am a SLUT and proud of it


owh please :1orglaugh

Odin88 11-24-2003 06:54 AM

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On the other hand, if some chick was just as strong as me or stronger, I would have no problems whatsoever with fighting her.
I could never fight a woman, even if I believed she could beat me up. I just couldn't bring myself to throw a punch at a woman's face.

Fonz 11-24-2003 06:55 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
A guy can sleep around and not be a slut... but a girl does it and she is a whore?
It's in a man's nature to sleep with as many women as possible, spread the seed. But it's not in a woman's nature (so I've read in some outdated books :) ).

And men shouldn't hit women and the other way around.

there.. my wortheless :2 cents:

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 06:58 AM

No matter what size the girl is, if she throws a punch at some guy I believe he has every right to punch her back. She's man enough to throw the punch she should be man enough to take it.

I however don't think it's right for men to be able to sleep around and their not sluts. Can't really explane this to you because I don't understand why we're called sluts even if we've only slept with one man.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld


This part is mostly about not beating up people weaker than you. I wouldn't hit a 5 ft guy for the same reason I wouldn't hit a woman... it just isn't a fair fight.
On the other hand, if some chick was just as strong as me or stronger, I would have no problems whatsoever with fighting her.

what was told to me by a guy was...

"i wouldnt hit a guy stronger than me cuz I know id get killed if i got hit back... so i expect a woman shouldnt hit me cuz she knows she'll get hurt if i hit back"


:Oh crap

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:01 AM

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No matter what size the girl is, if she throws a punch at some guy I believe he has every right to punch her back. She's man enough to throw the punch she should be man enough to take it.
Please. If a kid throws a punch at a grown up, should that grown up have the right to punch the kid back? Although it is a bit harsh to compare a woman to a child, they are naturally much physically weaker than a man, and the obvious differences between the two sexes? have to be taken into account. Women and men are different - it is called testosterone for one.

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


I could never fight a woman, even if I believed she could beat me up. I just couldn't bring myself to throw a punch at a woman's face.

Well, I'm 6', 240 lbs, with quite a bit of experience in martial arts, so what I'm saying is pretty theoretical, but still.. if I met a woman who I thought would be a fairly equal match, and she started a fight, I would respond.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Please. If a kid throws a punch at a grown up, should that grown up have the right to punch the kid back? Although it is a bit harsh to compare a woman to a child, they are naturally much physically weaker than a man, and the obvious differences between the two sexes? have to be taken into account. Women and men are different - it is called testosterone for one.

I completely agree... are you a boy or a girl?

I mean aside from like women body builders... men and women are very different physically.

If i jokinly punch a guy.... whats the likeliness I am gonna hurt him... if he jkingly punches me...

*sigh*

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:09 AM

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Well, I'm 6', 240 lbs, with quite a bit of experience in martial arts, so what I'm saying is pretty theoretical, but still.. if I met a woman who I thought would be a fairly equal match, and she started a fight, I would respond.
How would you respond? I mean I am about the same height as you and am 80 something kilos, and I have had woman of about 5'10" attack me. All I did was hold her arms and make her calm down. Even if she could of still thrown punches at me, I would never hit her, only try and restrain her.

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I completely agree... are you a boy or a girl?
Guy.

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
If i jokinly punch a guy.... whats the likeliness I am gonna hurt him... if he jkingly punches me...

There's ofcourse a big difference between a real fight and jokingly punching someone. When you jokingly punch someone, you show restraint and will make sure not to hurt that person...

OzMan84 11-24-2003 07:11 AM

its a weird world we live in, nothing seems to be fair but
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I could never fight a woman, even if I believed she could beat me up. I just couldn't bring myself to throw a punch at a woman's face.
i was brought up the same way, so i will teach my kids the same:thumbsup

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:11 AM

Im not sure if this is a complex subject or not...

seems pretty straight forward....

:(

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:11 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld


There's ofcourse a big difference between a real fight and jokingly punching someone. When you jokingly punch someone, you show restraint and will make sure not to hurt that person...

Some peolple are stronger than they think

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:12 AM

What about punching in defence? If a chick punched a guy and he was defending himself... would he punch full strength? or enough to defend himself only?

:question

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:14 AM

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Im not sure if this is a complex subject or not...

seems pretty straight forward....
I think it is to most people. I know that 99% of the people I am friends with would agree that under no circumstances (exluding that of saving his life) should a male physically attack a woman with the aim of hurting her. However, some people (male and female) take the 'equality' thing a little too far and believe that it must apply to everything.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


I think it is to most people. I know that 99% of the people I know would agree that under no circumstances should a male physically attack a woman with the aim of hurting her. However, some people (male and female) take the 'equality' thing a little too far and believe that it must apply to everything.

I believe a guy should be able to defend himself.....

but...... defend or actually injure the girl.....

:(

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88

How would you respond? I mean I am about the same height as you and am 80 something kilos, and I have had woman of about 5'10" attack me. All I did was hold her arms and make her calm down. Even if she could of still thrown punches at me, I would never hit her, only try and restrain her.

If a "normal" woman attacked me, I'd just hold her until she quit. Since that's about the same thing I do in most fights, I would do that as well if a very strong woman attacked me.

However, if a woman who I thought was dangerous attacked me, I'd punch her lights out.

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:17 AM

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I believe a guy should be able to defend himself.....

but...... defend or actually injure the girl.....
Like I said, he has the right to restrain the woman, but to aim to physically hurt her in almost all circumstances (excluding such things as life or death situations), should not be accepted.

My :2 cents: anyway, I am going to shut up now. :)

Basic_man 11-24-2003 07:17 AM

Nop, execept for the penis/vagina :thumbsup

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:19 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Like I said, he has the right to restrain the woman, but to aim to physically hurt her in almost all circumstances (excluding such things as life or death situations), should not be accepted.

My :2 cents: anyway, I am going to shut up now. :)

but... why?

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:23 AM

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but... why?
Guess it is just how I was raised, but I find it morally wrong. Perhaps it is a bit old fashioned to see a girl in that way, I don't know, but I am only 19 and I just can't imagine it any other way.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Guess it is just how I was raised, but I find it morally wrong. Perhaps it is a bit old fashioned to see a girl in that way, I don't know, but I am only 19 and I just can't imagine it any other way.

i like that...

im just wondering.....

why society made it that way.

i think its that the women make the babies and are the reason the the world continues... so men are supposed to respect and care for them because without them men would cease to exsist.

:(

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


i like that...

im just wondering.....

why society made it that way.

i think its that the women make the babies and are the reason the the world continues... so men are supposed to respect and care for them because without them men would cease to exsist.

:(

The world would continue without women, and without men the human race would encounter some serious problems as well.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:28 AM

Somewhere men lost sight of that....

and women too... fighting for equality. We are more delicate and we should be treated as such.....

its so confusing...

we get controled because we are more delicate and want to be treated as such but if we demand to not be abused and controlled then we are supposed to be treated equally....


aaauauauauaugbghh!

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:29 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld


The world would continue without women,

the world might but the human race wouldnt.

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


the world might but the human race wouldnt.

But it wouldn't without men either.

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Please. If a kid throws a punch at a grown up, should that grown up have the right to punch the kid back? Although it is a bit harsh to compare a woman to a child, they are naturally much physically weaker than a man, and the obvious differences between the two sexes? have to be taken into account. Women and men are different - it is called testosterone for one.

I guess in some parts of the world commen sence hasen't kicked in yet ;)
I was speaking of bf gf type thing. If I hit my husband for whatever reason *yes I am smaller then he is* I better be ready to take a punch back. I was brought up if a girl hits a guy he doesn't have the right to hit her back just because he's a boy. Now i'm not saying whoever is hitting me after I hit them is going to use full force. But if I holler off and punch him I deserve to get it back. Okay if the man is 300lbs plus to a 100lbs girl with full force he'll end up seriously hurting her.

I just don't think it's right for girls to go around like fucking bimbos thinking they should be threated diffrently then men. We want to be treated equally?...well then you have to accept what comes with it. Why should men be beat on? Just because we happen to be smaller then them? NO. If we hit we should be hit back. Thats just what I believe :2 cents:

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:32 AM

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Somewhere men lost sight of that....

and women too... fighting for equality. We are more delicate and we should be treated as such.....

its so confusing...

we get controled because we are more delicate and want to be treated as such but if we demand to not be abused and controlled then we are supposed to be treated equally....


aaauauauauaugbghh!
You are the kind of girl I like, and respect. It is not that I don't agree that women should have equal rights to society as a man (i.e. work and politics), I just think that people need to respect the legitimate differences between the two.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:33 AM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


I guess in some parts of the world commen sence hasen't kicked in yet ;)
I was speaking of bf gf type thing. If I hit my husband for whatever reason *yes I am smaller then he is* I better be ready to take a punch back. I was brought up if a girl hits a guy he doesn't have the right to hit her back just because he's a boy. Now i'm not saying whoever is hitting me after I hit them is going to use full force. But if I holler off and punch him I deserve to get it back. Okay if the man is 300lbs plus to a 100lbs girl with full force he'll end up seriously hurting her.

I just don't think it's right for girls to go around like fucking bimbos thinking they should be threated diffrently then men. We want to be treated equally?...well then you have to accept what comes with it. Why should men be beat on? Just because we happen to be smaller then them? NO. If we hit we should be hit back. Thats just what I believe :2 cents:

But I dont expect to be treated equally... I do expect not to be belittled and controlled cuz I am a women though.....

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


You are the kind of girl I like, and respect. It is not that I don't agree that women should have equal rights to society as a man (i.e. work and politics), I just think that people need to respect the legitimate differences between the two.

Exactly!!!!! Thank You!

That is what I am trying to say!!

I think I can go to bed smiling now... knowing that one person has understood me and put it into their own words!!

*hugz*

*smile*

goodnight!

and Thank You! again!

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
[B]Somewhere men lost sight of that....

and women too... fighting for equality. We are more delicate and we should be treated as such.....

its so confusing...

We are more delicate yes I agree with you but thats only because we have more hormones running through us. Men are simple ,women are fucking crazed psychos most of the time. I am a women and I fully admit I'm the biggest bitch. We know usually we can handle whatever comes our way but we play like we are little innocent things. If my husband hits me I know I can take it, unless he's trying to seriously harm me.

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


But I dont expect to be treated equally... I do expect not to be belittled and controlled cuz I am a women though.....

But what do you expect then? The best of both worlds?

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 07:37 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


But I dont expect to be treated equally... I do expect not to be belittled and controlled cuz I am a women though.....

Well sweetheart you can't have the cake and it it to.

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:38 AM

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Exactly!!!!! Thank You!

That is what I am trying to say!!

I think I can go to bed smiling now... knowing that one person has understood me and put it into their own words!!

*hugz*

*smile*

goodnight!

and Thank You! again!
lol, np :glugglug

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


Well sweetheart you can't have the cake and it it to.

I think I miss wrote that...

what im trying to say is that i want to be treated like a women but not belitted for being a women....

does that make sence?

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


I think I miss wrote that...

what im trying to say is that i want to be treated like a women but not belitted for being a women....

does that make sence?

Yes I understand what you're saying. But it doesn't work that way and it prolly never will. We learn to accept that.

michel 11-24-2003 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
A guy can sleep around and not be a slut... but a girl does it and she is a whore?
Well, when an average looking guy and an average looking girl walk into a bar and both ask 10 strangers if they would sleep with them, the girl would probably get 8-9 yes answers, but the guy would be lucky to get one yes. The fact it's so easy for a girl to score a guy makes her a slut when she has sex with a lot of different guys in my opinion. When a guy scorese a lot of girls he's the man!

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle


Yes I understand what you're saying. But it doesn't work that way and it prolly never will. We learn to accept that.

Well i'll just keep waiting then

i dont need men who dont agree with that in my life

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer


I think I miss wrote that...

what im trying to say is that i want to be treated like a women but not belitted for being a women....

does that make sence?

But what do you consider being "treated like a woman"?
Not having to take responsibility for your actions? (hitting someone and not getting hit back)
Not being expected to work equally hard? (lifting heavy stuff when moving, for instance)
Not being expected to be able to control your own finances? (paying for dinner and such, for example)

Sorry, but if you want to have rights, that also brings along duties. Ofcourse, there are differences between men and women. That doesn't, however, exempt you from the bad things life has to offer.

Easton 11-24-2003 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by FreeNetPass Jenefer
goodnight!

and Thank You! again!

goodnight??? it's 9:45 in the morning! (6:45am for you, right?)

did you pull an all-niter over this Jen?

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by punkworld


But what do you consider being "treated like a woman"?
Not having to take responsibility for your actions? (hitting someone and not getting hit back)
Not being expected to work equally hard? (lifting heavy stuff when moving, for instance)
Not being expected to be able to control your own finances? (paying for dinner and such, for example)

Sorry, but if you want to have rights, that also brings along duties. Ofcourse, there are differences between men and women. That doesn't, however, exempt you from the bad things life has to offer.

im gonna think on that... im too confused tonight to respond... good points though.

FreeNetPass Jenefer 11-24-2003 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Easton


goodnight??? it's 9:45 in the morning! (6:45am for you, right?)

did you pull an all-niter over this Jen?

maybe.....

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:46 AM

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That doesn't, however, exempt you from the bad things life has to offer.
Can you pop a baby out of your dick and have it suck on your nipple to survive? Maybe when you can you might have a point.

Libertine 11-24-2003 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Can you pop a baby out of your dick and have it suck on your nipple to survive? Maybe when you can you might have a point.

So, because women can have babies they don't have to take responsibility for anything else in life?
Ridiculous point.

Odin88 11-24-2003 07:52 AM

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So, because women can have babies they don't have to take responsibility for anything else in life?
Ridiculous point?
Ofcourse they have to take responsibility for other things in life, but really buying a girl a dinner is the least you could do. And as for lifting heavy stuff, do you seriously think women are capable of lifting things of heavy weight as a man is?

pink_in_the_middle 11-24-2003 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88


Can you pop a baby out of your dick and have it suck on your nipple to survive? Maybe when you can you might have a point.

I totally agree with punkworld. I'm a women and have had three kids "popping" out AND sucking on my nipple. So what? As was stated before there are obvious diffrences. Just because women can have kids doesn't mean we should be treated diffrently. Maybe at times *periods, pregnant* but other wise no. The same goes for men.


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