would you be/are you an organ donor?
 

would you be/are you an organ donor?

yes

yes for both:)

i offer my organs to highest bidder :Graucho

I am. I make sure my family knows it, too, otherwise that little sticker on your driver's license is worthless.

SpaceAce

yes. Whatever is needed, 'cause I sure as hell won't need it anymore.

My husband wants his entire body donated to science.

for sure :thumbsup

yes

Yes, I am.

Yes I am an organ donor.

yep

No. If you donate your organs when you die, everyone along the way will make money from removing, handling, transporting, and implanting the organ. Everyone that is except your family. The money in the organ/transplant business is insane and not a dime of it goes back to the family of the donor. Fuck that.

i would if somebody needs it...

yes

Yes, knowing your organs could save someone's father, mother, brother, wife or child you would rather let your organs rot in the dirt just to spite the middleman. What an impressively unenlightened attitude.

SpaceAce

More enlightened than you know. Why should the family of the donor get nothing while tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars are being moved around. Couldn't 1% be skimmed off for the donor family to show some fucking gratitude?

Why should a sick human being die because you don't want someone else to make a buck? That is <B>un</B>enlightened, not enlightened. It doesn't matter how many ways you spin it, you look like an asshole. You are punishing the group who needs the organs for the actions of a completely different group of people. Should I come punch you in the face when a waiter spills hot coffee on me? That makes exactly as much sense as what you're saying.

SpaceAce

I am an organ donor, but i hope i don't have to donate anytime soon:)

When the organ removal guys work for free, when the doctors work for free, when the airlines transport the organs for free, when the transplant patient receives a bill for $0, I'll be the first to sign up.

Why shouldn't the donor family get anything? That doesn't make sense at all. If they didn't want the money they could donate it to charity.

And now the wheels of heaven stop
You feel the devil's riding crop
Get ready for the future
It is murder

great song. Leonard Cohen kicks ass.

I love that song. Leonard Cohen is one of the most under-rated, under-appreciated artists out there IMHO.

You just keep saying the same thing over and over and it still doesn't matter. One day you may get to watch someone you care about die a slow death because the perfect tissue match took his heart to his grave with him just to "teach a lesson" to the middlemen. Congratulations, you kept a few thousand dollars out of someone's pocket and buried someone you loved. I guess that's a good trade in your world.

You can reply 800 times with 800 variations of your theme and it still comes down to the same thing: you're punishing people who have nothing to do with the system you are trying to spite. One day you may be sitting next to that hospital bed waiting for that last-minute life-saving phone call and if you don't get it, you'll know why: there's another you out there somewhere.

SpaceAce

And you still haven't answered the question: Why shouldn't the donor family be paid?

I'm a donor

Not sure anyone would want your organs after your attitude towards it anyway. What makes you think doctors or airlines make billions on transporting or implanting organs anyway?


I am definitely a donor, if I can help someone live even a day longer so family and friends could say goodbye, then I know I have done good by doing so.

I know as a fact that the money in the organ business is huge. I know people that do it for a living, fuck, you would not believe the cash they make while the donor families get nothing.

Here's a clue: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=donate

It's a moot point, anyway. The organs are useless to the dead person and their family. What does whether or not they get paid have to do with anything? Let's say they pay you. Who do you think is <B>really</B> paying you? The same person who gets the organ, that's who. Cost is passed along just like in any industry. Double congratulations, you squeezed a few more nickles out of a dying person. You must feel great.

Basic facts:
1) You don't need them
2) Someone else probably does
3) Spiteful selfishness still won't get you paid
4) Some day it could be you

SpaceAce

yes I am an organ donor.

So you're all for creating a market in the trade of organs? nice.

The market already exists. It is a HUGE fucking industry. The ONLY people that don't get paid are the families of the dead guy and perhaps the odd hospital or doctor that donates an operation now and again.

I am currently a donar for everything possible. The sick will have a party when I die :thumbsup

Why in the hell should a family of the donor be paid? Its called doing a good thing.

Its like asking a charity that you gave your clothes to that were just sitting in your closet, money back because you gave them clothes.

By your logic nobody should get paid. I'd go for that. Short of that happening, which it never will, everyone should get a cut.

Yeah, okay, that's why doctors work for free.

Yes, it would be nice if everyone did it for free but it isn't going to happen. There are also a lot of differences between the donor and everyone else in between.

Your body has no overhead once it's dead. You didn't invest money in your organs and it's not going to cost you anything to give them away. It's silly to hang on to them. <B>You don't need them</B>. It's that simple. You'll get nothing either way, so you might as well do a good deed.

By <I>your</I> logic no one should donate anything.

SpaceAce

yep, already am

there's a big difference between costs of a transplant, and getting money for the specific organ.

Hey, family can?t get back the family member they lost, and I doubt they want compensation organs for whom they lost so why not be a donor and help someone else out? Doctors are just doing their job which usually means getting a pay check.

I need my organs for the afterlife

I am an organ donor. What the hell am I going to do with them if I am dead? You might as well give them to someone who can use them, instead of wasting them. I sure as hell know I would want someone?s organs if I was lying in a bed almost dead.

If they don't want the money they can sign a form and give it to charity. No big deal. If doctors really wanted to do the right thing, they could do it for about 1/2 the price and cheer everyone right the fuck up. The problem of course is that Ferraris ain't getting any cheaper and golf course memberships don't grow on trees.

i am :thumbsup

If you could cut your income in half to make a few people happy would you, fuckin doubt it.

The way I see it, if they want what I have when I die....take it...hopefuly it helps someone...hell, won't do me any good in the ground!

And if you really wanted to do the right thing you wouldn't be so concerned about who's getting paid for what. So, in essence, you are exactly the kind of person you are protesting by refusing to donate your organs. It must be tough to look in the mirror.

Also, for someone who claims to know so much about all this you sure do say some ass-backwards things. Organ transplants are <B>not</B> something that a doctor can do in his private office. Doctors performing major surgeries in hostpitals don't set the prices. The hospitals do and in most cases the actual fee to the doctor is not where the bulk of your money is going.

SpaceAce

I'm a pornographer. I make no pretense of doing anything good.

transplant fine but I'm no cadivar or research subject dead or alive.

By the use of the word "doctors" I am referring to not only doctors but the hospitals, nurses, etc that go with the transplant. I was trying not to confuse you, sorry about that.

As far as right and wrong goes, the right thing to do is to make sure that the donor family gets enough to at least pay for a tombstone. They are the ones grieving, why should they be left out in the cold? You people are heartless.

It's called donation for a reason.

Yeah, so people are duped into giving up their guts for free.

WTF are you going to do with them when your dead? Are you really that greedy a person? Seriously. Someone is dieing on a bed, this is someones mother or father, brother or sister, daughter or son, and you wish to get paid for something that you no longer need in order to help this person live?