My letter to Acacia
 

I got this letter in the mail today:

Man.. I've been threatened with lawsuits so many times that it doesn't freak me out at all anymore. Here is my response:

Emailed to

[email protected]

and to

Robert A. Berman
500 Newport Center Drive,
7th Floor
Newport Beach, CA 92660

Hahahaha.. good times.

I bow to your excessive bravery.

That will go over well.

I'm still laughing my ass off over here. I guess we'll see what happens. I did basically the same thing last time microsoft sent me a C&D. I ended up telling some junior law clerk off, and calling it a day.

Yeh, quite often if you come off as a bit of a psycho, they'll still clear of you.

Good Job I love it:1orglaugh

Include a photo of you eating a turd with crazy eyes and scratching your back with a gun, they love that

Sample pic?

great letter....

:glugglug

with or without clothes

Let us know their response please :)
WG

interesting :winkwink:

please do keep us posted on their response

also another good pic to include that goes well with the crazy pic, is to possibly get a photo of their home and include that.

Can he (Mr. Berman) possible sue you for some kinda offense or smth ? You gotta be careful while using offensive expressions in official letter.

Really man fuck all that shit, do them one better and just email them or mail them and ask them to tell you what websites you own that transmit audio and or video, or what websites you own at all and see what they have to say to you.

Bah. The claim is ludicrous. I transmitted audio and video over phone lines in 1982 with my Commodore C=64 ... that's why I love my C=64.

Is it possible for me to file a patent with an affadavit backdating it before the date of their patents, and invalidating them? Anyone here know legaly stuff?

Great... email me: (brandon at FightThePatent.com) and we can chat about your leads and connections... besides having some dusty old computers, you may have some of your "old skool" peers to call on for prior art searching.

Fight the Patent!

DIGI files were on C64, i haven't found any yet with a date stamp before 1990.. and according to one person, C64 didn't have datestamps on the files?

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I don't think you should have listed you're sites.. They probally didn't know what you had, or aleast there is a good chance of it.. This letter is just a sale pitch leve it as that , you're less likely to be a target that way.

Berman has already publicly acknowledged and stated that Acacia didn't create all of the stuff related to its patents, just that they were the first to do it all unified on the Internet.

AHAHAHAHAHa... I love it.

someone should get a pic of berman and photchop the hell out of it...

No, the C=64 didn't datestamp files, but it's common knowledge that samples of audio were transmitted over modems, and in some cases video... albeit, the quality may have been worse (i mean, the machine could only display 16 colors), but I don't think their patents would stand on the grounds of quality, specially since they don't own the patents on the video compression technology.

"While you're offer sounds quite inticing, my current position is that you should get a fucking job."
Roflmfao... i needed that

great fuckin letter man

i wonder how many of those they have seen

you people are so mature and able to handle situations like this..

newb.

exactly.. hence the need to find prior art like DIGI files that can be documented to have been downloaded prior to 1990.

CDROM that SYSOP might have purchased, or several SYSOP testimony could help set the time frame.

Let me know if you or any of your peers might have had CDROM purchased for use on BBS.

Fight the Patent!

And I'm patenting masturbation

Really, I'm in it for the fight. I'm bored.

i guess i must owe you like 3million in fees :Graucho

I'm gonna patent eating and see if I can get an injunction against Robert A. Berman for a few months.

i feel left out..i dont get any letters

That took some balls offering up your sites. Pretty much the equivalent of challenging them to a fight. I am curious to see how they follow up with that. It sounds like you have been around for a long time. I hope you whip there ass if/when it goes to court.

Oh look! http://www.whisqu.se/per/docs/graphics54.htm

A standard for the "digital transmission of rasterized images".. the latest feature in this version? moving pictures. The date? 1990... Acacia's oldest patent? 1991 as far as I've seen.

GIF89 could count as prior art, once we find GIF89 files that were video-like, as in using digitized still images in a loop.

Cartoony/animation GIF89 don't count.

Have you looked at this page: http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Searching.html


Also... I created an FAQ on Acacia at: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=190214


Fight the Patent!

It lists the kinds of files that I am searching for. GIF89 and many other kinds of files are on this page.


Fight the Patent!

I patented the female orgasm and after talking to all of your girlfriends, you guys don't owe me anything :(






;)

why not just go for breathing?

Great letter, but it probably would go over a little better if you didn't have misspelled words in it. :(

Yes, I know that's anal, but when you're sending a business letter to an attorney, it's not the same as posting on GFY regarding spelling and grammar. :winkwink:

That's fucking great man! I love it! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

jDoG

Excellent response.

good, I wouldn'T have gave them my URLs tho

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../xyxthumbs.gif

Good job, this industry needs some more people willing to stand up to Acacia.

We always talk about Larry Flynt, but what about Al Goldstein? Flynt is a free speech fighter, Goldstein is just an all around crazy motherfucker!

So now that you have proved to everyone here how macho you are with a BS response to something that didn't even require a response, what next?

If you have pissed Acacia off enough to get an actual demand for payment next, are you going to reply with some more smart ass comments, or deal with it? If you get a court date, are you going to turn up and try to impress the judge with that crap or are you going to say f*ck it and ignore the summons? Either way you end up in the hole.

I wouldn't mind settling this with a baseball bat or whatever, but it's not going to happen that way. Online porn is growing up and you either grow up with it or get left behind. Your choice.

I'm not a macho man. They sent me a threat, and I told them to stick it where the sun don't shine. And don't tell me it wasn't a threat that's bullshit. I'm just encouraging people to treat bullshit like bullshit. This is no more valid than the guy who started making legal claims against my band two months ago cause his last name is Tallman. Just another publicity move by another company that is using crafty legal means to put pressure on website owners.

As for court, I already know exactly what will happen there, but I don't expect you to be able to figure it out, newb.

Yeah, I'm bad for that... I'll spell correctly if I have to send anything legally binding, or to a judge, or anyone who I respect in a formal setting.

What about Amiga MOD and other tracker files? They contained digitized sound samples, and were sent over the internet and BBS's, probably as early as 1986 or 1987.

While they were commonly used to "sequence" music, they also sometimes contained a single audio stream, and were used cause it was a common format that was easy to play with commonly available code.

Authors often included the release date as the name of a sample contained within a mod file.

Yes..I can see it now...Headquarters calls legal and says to call off all TWENTY FIVE of their attornies who are going after 719 webmasters to concentrate on this one guy who was really rude to them in a letter!!

TRICK OR TREAT!!:1orglaugh

MOD files don't count because they are not true digital audio.

They do contain digitized samples, but the construction of the song is based on the triggering of the samples, rather then the complete digitization of a song.

You are thinking on the right track.... check with http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Searching.html for kinds of files that would make for good prior art.


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Shok, you seem overqualified in the crazy pic area ...

Anything you wanna share about your past experiences??? :Graucho