Are "family" type stories legal?
 

I found a bunch of them in some stories I bought. Just wondering if the feds will be knocking on my door tommorow. Or is acacia all I have to worry about?

I think it is still legal to write just about anything you want, and I mean anything. Writing about family stuff and kiddie stuff is entirely different than taking pictures and movies and trying to lure others into it over state lines, etc.

I think its even legal to write detailed instructions about how to make bombs and so on.

Freedom of Expression man!

Good precedent at asstr.org --> that board is like 75% family/young/forced/drugged/snuff stories and its been going strong for years and years and its free and totally open to the public.

:2 cents:

Boneprone Family

even if they are legal, would you really use them? if so you are just as bad as the other people with the pics and the vids.. no matter how you sugar coat it, its cp

Sure, it's legal. Here, go read the first two chapters of <A HREF="http://www.porncherry.com/family/mother-son/" TARGET="_blank">Mickey's Mom</A>. Maybe some day I'll even finish that damn story.

SpaceAce

It's legal in many areas, but there are some where you'll get problems. When in doubt, throw it out.

Trust me; I'm a writer. :)

Child porn means porn with children.

Do you think that the movies "House Of Yes" and "Spanking The Monkey" were child porn? :1orglaugh

If the family members are consenting adults, I do not see a problem. After all, Jerry Springer had guests proclaiming their family love and no one was arrested :Graucho

Has Jerry Springer ever had a show without family members who have sex with each other? :1orglaugh

Has Jerry Springer ever <I>not</I> had a show about family members who have sex with each other?

SpaceAce

I fucked that one up!

I've got you covered.

SpaceAce

Yes, it's legal to write about just about anything you want, but there are limits. For example, you cannot write about the rape or murder of a real human being. I believe people have been arrested for writing fantasy stories about harming people they know if I remember correctly.

keep sugar coating it.. "FAMILY" style storys are child porn IMHO, now granted thats my opinion

so Mr Fiction you condone such storys?

How can this be an opinion? That's like saying "Water is not made up of hydrogen and oxygen, IMHO." Some things are fact. A story not involving anyone under the age of majority is not kiddie porn, period. There are no opinions involved.

"Family" is not a synonym for "child". <A HREF="http://www.thesaurus.com" TARGET="_blank">Click here for thesaurus.com</A>.

SpaceAce

I support free speech and the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. Hopefully you do as well.

Why do you think "family" has anything to do with "child"?

Have you seen "Spanking The Monkey"? Have you seen "The House Of Yes"? These are mainstream movies that showed in theaters around the world. Were they "child porn"?

Supporting free speech means that I also support the legality of speech that I might morally disagree with.

Do you think that the classic book and movie "Lolita" should be illegal?

Do you think that movies with fantasy crimes, like drug use, speeding, and killing are wrong too?

Do you think that it is worse for someone to have a story about sex with their 20 year old cousin than for someone to write a fantasy about killing all of the black people in the world?

Do you think that articles glorifying Hitler are ok, but stories about some 40 year old brother and sister having sex are "CP"?

Should all literature have to only cover topics that would be legal in the real world? Wouldn't movies, books, and television be pretty boring?

Anti-free speech pornographers always make me wonder. :)

Maybe he should read the Horny Peeping Sister series. Haha, anyone remember those? I wonder if you can find them on the ASSTR site.

SpaceAce

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images.../xyxthumbs.gif

ASSTR is the definition of free speech, like Usenet. Some of those stories scare even me, but you know what - free speech means free speech!

I should also add that the story states they are over 18.

I would never use anything that had underage shit. I probobly wonnt be using any of the other shit either as I have some morals :)

And my dad likes to check out my sites when Im not looking. Might scare him.

You should check out The Temple of Pamphage (http://www.pamphage.com/). I was reading his stuff for years before he ever started posting here. He has some really compelling work on there and it's definitely the sort of thing that would have shocked the public right off its feet a few years ago. I think the people who have the biggest problems with edgy writing are people who have never written anything, themselves. When you do some writing of your own, you come to understand that fantasy is just that: fantasy.

Mind you, I do tend to believe that people who write stories about things like sex with minors (especially forced or violent) have some problems but as long as it stays on paper, I don't see how it would be right to mete out punishment.

Edit: I should clarify something about the above statement. When I say "minors" I am talking specifically about early teens on down. I just can't get too upset about a story featuring a seventeen-year-old getting fucked.

SpaceAce

blah blah blah blah blah.. when surfers are looking for "family" style shit they are searchin for CP

cut the shit, dont hide behind the constitution, you are well aware of wtf is going on

Is that your brilliant, well-reasoned opinion? Sounds like knee-jerk blathering to me. I especially love the implication that people are "hiding behind" the Constitution. I suppose you know something we don't about what the Constitution <U>really</U> means, huh?

Who cares what people are searching for when they look for "family" stories? If my stories all feature adults, why should I be responsible for what other people are looking for?

SpaceAce

lay down with dogs you get fleas, you know as well as i do that if you are puttin that kinda shit up, you are going to get that kinda clients.. if you dont mind the fact that people who are ending up at your sites are lookin for CP, i dont eather

Why should I care? They won't find any.

Well, let me rephrase that. I "care" in the sense that I think child pornography is disgusting. I wish that no one was looking for it but since I don't have any on my sites and I don't write any stories that feature kiddie porn, I don't feel any responsibility for the nuts of the world who are out looking for it.

SpaceAce

You just keep thinking that and keep on whoring your lame TCG sig that everyone and his mother has :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I have been working with stories for the last six years and personally I may use incest stories on a site if all people involved are over 18.

What I will not use are any stories about minors, animal sex, rape, etc. I will not use them because I know for a fact that here in Canada stories about these things are illegal and I don't exactly want to go to jail. Plus using these types of stories creates a lot of hastle with other things. I see that you are in Canada too so I strongly suggest that you do not use stories like the ones I named, but it doesn't look like you were planning to.

I have unintentionally purchased story sets with content I don't like but have either not used these stories or have changed them if this is ok with the licence agreement.

Using incest stories may get you in trouble with certain things such as PPC (I was denied for a PPC listing because of prostitution stories), sponsors etc and the really illegal stuff like child rape stories could get you in trouble with Visa.

1st off.. notice IMHO? should i translate that for you?
2nd off, you are far to new to this board for me to even talk to really and last
3rd i was unaware they pipe internet connection into "the ghetto" so, before you go talking about my sig, why dont you see if someone would be willing to pay you for yours, and maybe you, your broke ass family, and your sister can move on up like george and wezzie

What did you say? You'll have to speak up I can't hear you over all the gunshots because I live in the ghetto, right? Swoit TCG! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

im just calling them like i see them
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This thread is funny, and not just because I fucked up when posting about Jerry Springer. :1orglaugh

Stop posting my personal details! :feels-hot

whats personall? you live in the ghetto.. so this tells me you eat free cheese and live like a bunch of cockroachs

this is the same ghetto everyone else knows right? or do you live in the plush wonderworld ghetto where everyone has SUVS?

WTF? Nobody told me about the free cheese?!? :(
Can you buy me some bread with that TCG sig money? You could probably afford some milk too if you post enough.

sure can whats your address?