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JSA Matt 10-23-2003 02:22 PM
Falsely accused by ACACIA, now what?
 
So what am I suppsed to do about this? Just ignore it and hope everything goes away? They have falsely accused me of patent infringement and i'm not sure what i'm suppsed to do about this.

detoxed 10-23-2003 02:23 PM
Accuse them of extortion. Have your lawyer send a letter.

Hooper 10-23-2003 02:27 PM
Extortion (Black's Law Dictionary - 6th Edition) is defined as:
"The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right."

"official right" is your key there.

JSA Matt 10-23-2003 02:29 PM
Yes but I don't have the money to take them to court... :mad:

Juicy D. Links 10-23-2003 02:31 PM
:(

icedemon 10-23-2003 02:31 PM
Call them up and ask them why they feel you need a license from them.

Sly_RJ 10-23-2003 02:31 PM
Basically they're trying to charge you for something that doesn't exist.

Think of how many other people received the same letter that you did who DON'T know what ACACIA is or how to find out more information about them. They're basically sending mass SPAM MAIL to everyone on their "bought" lists demanding money.

The African guys from Nigeria come to mind...

detoxed 10-23-2003 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Hooper
Extortion (Black's Law Dictionary - 6th Edition) is defined as:
"The obtaining of property from another induced by wrongful use of actual or threatened force, violence, or fear, or under color of official right."

"official right" is your key there.
They are saying you infringed a patent and owe them money and have to pay them or face serious problems, sounds like if they are sending this to hundreds of people that dont even use video................... but im not a lawyer.

Nismo 10-23-2003 02:34 PM
man this is geting nuts. I dont own any paysites, just promote other sponors sites. What if I get a package? Just throw it away and ignore it?

Fabuleux 10-23-2003 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JSA Matt
Yes but I don't have the money to take them to court... :mad:
It's covered in my insurance policy. Get one fast :Graucho

GoLiaT 10-23-2003 02:36 PM
whats in the subject line ?
maybe i got one and delete it because i thought it was spam ?

Fabuleux 10-23-2003 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by GoLiaT
whats in the subject line ?
maybe i got one and delete it because i thought it was spam ?
They don't use e-mail, but snail mail.

basschick 10-23-2003 03:03 PM
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.

- Jesus Christ - 10-23-2003 03:04 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
GO GO DMCA!!!

GO DMCA GO!!!!

doober 10-23-2003 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.

this also a HUGE problem, they are contradicting themselves so much that they are gonna end up fucking it up for themselves....

:2 cents:

Fabuleux 10-23-2003 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.

That's just too fucking funny. By following links they can sue the entire internet.

angelsofporn 10-23-2003 03:08 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
lol..that's every site on the web...hilarious

tootie 10-23-2003 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
LMAO! They are screwing themselves SO BADLY! A few people that get these packets that don't actually use video themselves are going to let it go to court, and the judges are going to throw the cases out or rule against ACACIA and they are going to lose tons of money in court costs. :1orglaugh

JSA Matt 10-23-2003 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
That's besides the point. I don't have ANY sites at all.

Amputate Your Head 10-23-2003 03:11 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JSA Matt


That's besides the point. I don't have ANY sites at all.
I'm right there with ya Matt.... Acacia flat out accused me. I have no sites at all.

JSA Matt 10-23-2003 03:12 PM
If they send me a subpoena I will appear in court and tell the judge straight up, this company is a blood sucking pack of wolves and I have done nothing to infringe on their patents.

I would love to see the proof they have.. I bet they throw out a bunch of sites that aren't even mine :)

LadyMischief 10-23-2003 03:13 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
That is REALLY fucking pushing the envelope. That's like saying that you're guilty of something for knowing someone who's committed a crime.. Total and complete bullshit.

LadyMischief 10-23-2003 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by tootie


LMAO! They are screwing themselves SO BADLY! A few people that get these packets that don't actually use video themselves are going to let it go to court, and the judges are going to throw the cases out or rule against ACACIA and they are going to lose tons of money in court costs. :1orglaugh
They're shooting themselves in the foot is what they're doing. They're so desperate to push their quarterly reports up that they're just trying to hook as many people as they can to recoup their losses... It's going to work against them in the end.

JSA Matt 10-23-2003 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


I'm right there with ya Matt.... Acacia flat out accused me. I have no sites at all.
Did you do anything about it yet?

triumph 10-23-2003 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by JSA Matt
So what am I suppsed to do about this? Just ignore it and hope everything goes away? They have falsely accused me of patent infringement and i'm not sure what i'm suppsed to do about this.

buy their stock

Bladewire 10-23-2003 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


I'm right there with ya Matt.... Acacia flat out accused me. I have no sites at all.
and who would have known with over 26 thousand posts you wouldn't have time to do ANYTHING ELSE ! HA HA HA :1orglaugh

Amputate Your Head 10-23-2003 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Squirtit


and who would have known with over 26 thousand posts you wouldn't have time to do ANYTHING ELSE ! HA HA HA :1orglaugh
I'm a developer, not an operator. Time isn't the issue.

rooster 10-23-2003 03:39 PM
file a complaint with the california attorney general or something

Nysus 10-23-2003 03:46 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i just talked to someone at acacia on the phone. she said that as long as you link to any site with streaming media on it - trades, sponsors, etc - that you are causing the patent to be infringed upon.

they contacted me because a site i trade with links to galleries with movies on them.

in their view, you are violating their patent if you link to a sponsor with streaming media unless you license from them.
OKAY - Can someone please clarify if this is considered double-dipping or NOT?

That's what my understanding of it would be..

Actually, anyone remember what net radio show had the Acacia lawyer on? It's archived and I remember the lawyer explaining double-dipping, and that they wouldn't ever go after sites that link to the content such as TGPs, MGPs, etc.

Anyone remember?

Cheers,
Matt

Sly_RJ 10-23-2003 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by Nysus


OKAY - Can someone please clarify if this is considered double-dipping or NOT?

That's what my understanding of it would be..

Actually, anyone remember what net radio show had the Acacia lawyer on? It's archived and I remember the lawyer explaining double-dipping, and that they wouldn't ever go after sites that link to the content such as TGPs, MGPs, etc.

Anyone remember?

Cheers,
Matt
Yes, we all remember. And no, we don't believe him.


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