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Greg B 10-16-2003 03:41 PM

News Says So: Confirmation of Bush Family/Nazi Ties
 
You decide. My mind's made up because it's full of too many facts.

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Bush-Nazi Link Confirmed
Documents in National Archives Prove
George W. Bush's Grandfather Traded
with Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor
By John Buchanan
Exclusive to The New Hampshire Gazette
10-10-3

WASHINGTON -- After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of and U.S. banking operative for the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners.

The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law.

Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial tycoon for nearly a year after the U.S. entered the war.

Part 1

Greg B 10-16-2003 03:43 PM

Part 2

No Story?

For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath.

The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment.

The Summer of '42

The unraveling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway in New York under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran simultaneously in the New York Herald-Tribune and Washington Post on July 31, 1941. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months.

"Hitler's Angel Has $3 Million in U.S. Bank," declared the front-page Herald-Tribune headline. The lead paragraph characterized Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess.

The Herald-Tribune also cited unnamed sources who suggested Thyssen's U.S. "nest egg" in fact belonged to "Nazi bigwigs" including Goebbels, Hermann Goering, Heinrich Himmler, or even Hitler himself.

Business is Business

The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director.

The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated.

After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the U.S.

Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S. entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it. Brown Brothers Harriman sent letters to the government seeking reconsideration of the seizures by using false information.

UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman traveled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal.

The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included partnership with another German titan who supported Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his role in using slave labor and his own steel, coal and arms resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to prison.

The Family Business

In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman & Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC.

However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client.

Seized

On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley.

In August, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC, Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261) and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp. (Vesting Order No. 259).

The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury bonds, to their foreign clients overseas between 1931-33, as Hitler engineered his rise to power.

Greg B 10-16-2003 03:44 PM

Part 3

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Still No Story?

Since 1942, the information has not appeared in any U.S. news coverage of any Bush political campaign, nor has it been included in any of the major Bush family biographies. It was, however, covered extensively in George H.W. Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Chaitkin's father served as an attorney in the 1940s for some of the victims of the Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

The book gave a detailed, accurate accounting of the Bush family's long Nazi affiliation, but no mainstream U.S. media entity reported on or even investigated the allegations, despite careful documentation by the authors. Major booksellers declined to distribute the book, which was dismissed by Bush supporters as biased and untrue. Its authors struggled even to be reviewed in reputable newspapers. That the book was published by Lyndon LaRouche's organization undoubtedly made it easier to dismiss, but does not change the facts.

The essence of the story has been posted for years on various Internet sites, including BuzzFlash.com and TakeBackTheMedia.com, but no online media seem to have independently confirmed it.

In the 1990s, former U.S. Justice Department Nazi war crimes prosecutor John Loftus, now honorary president of the Florida Holocaust Museum, wrote a book and launched a web site (<>www.john-loftus.com) which did breakthrough reporting, including establishing the link between Prescott Bush, Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and forced labor at Auschwitz. Although the widely-respected Loftus established a successful international speaking career with his information, no U.S. newspaper or major TV news program acknowledged his decade of work, nor did he ever see many of the recently released documents.

Meanwhile, the mainstream media have apparently made no attempt since World War II to either verify or disprove the allegations of Nazi collaboration against the Bush family. Instead, they have attempted to dismiss or discredit such Internet sites or "unauthorized" books without any journalistic inquiry or research into their veracity.

Loyal Defenders

The National Review ran an essay on September 1 by their White House correspondent Byron York, entitled "Annals of Bush-Hating." It begins

mockingly: "Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, of the entire Bush family? Are you aware of the president's Nazi sympathies? His crimes against humanity? And do you know, by the way, that George W. Bush is a certifiable moron?" York goes on to discredit the "Bush is a moron" IQ hoax, but fails to disprove the Nazi connection.

The more liberal Boston Globe ran a column September 29 by Reason magazine's Cathy Young in which she referred to "Bush-o-phobes on the Internet" who "repeat preposterous claims about the Bush family's alleged Nazi connections."

Poles Tackle the Topic

Newsweek Polska, the magazine's Polish edition, published a short piece on the "Bush Nazi past" in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that "the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp," according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (<>www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses.

Still Not Interested

Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, CNN, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, as well as Knight-Ridder Newspapers, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives.

Aftermath

In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. There is no record of any U.S. press coverage of the Bush-Nazi connection during any political campaigns conducted by George Herbert Walker Bush, Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, with the exception of a brief mention in an unrelated story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune in November 2000 and a brief but inaccurate account in The Boston Globe in 2001.

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John Buchanan is an award-winning and internationally published journalist and investigative reporter with 33 years of experience in New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Miami. His work has appeared in more than 50 newspapers, magazines and books. He can be reached by e-mail at: [email protected].

This article was forwarded
courtesy of Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz
and Tetrahedron Publishing Group
206 North 4th Avenue, Suite 147
Sandpoint, Idaho 83864

<http://www.tetrahedron.org/>http://www.tetrahedron.org

Odin88 10-16-2003 03:45 PM

Must be why he loves Israel so much :helpme

eroswebmaster 10-16-2003 03:48 PM

Where are the pretty pictures?

hyatla 10-16-2003 03:51 PM

According to patriotic act, I am going to report you to that guy in washington. By that guy I mean the one who dressed up a naked statue. Keep forgetting his name. I will suggest him to mimic Kim Zheng Ri, the shorty in Korea, and cut your tongue.



:winkwink:

Babaganoosh 10-16-2003 03:51 PM

Anything pro-USA = propaganda

Anything anti-USA = fact

:1orglaugh

Brad-Wishing 10-16-2003 03:52 PM

Someone want to take one for the team and summarize that in one easy to read sentance with words no more than 4 letters in length please?

Sly_RJ 10-16-2003 03:55 PM

Sweet. The Presidents grandfather was involved with the Nazi's.

Webby 10-16-2003 04:05 PM

Sly_RJ:

Quote:

Sweet. The Presidents grandfather was involved with the Nazi's.
Tis not exactly news - the Bush family earned there money trading arms.. ie thru Brown Brothers and those listed above.

And... G W is keeping the tradition flowing nicely...



Armed & Hammered:

Quote:

Anything pro-USA = propaganda

Anything anti-USA = fact :1orglaugh
And no... the facts are well-known whether they are "pro" US or not.

OR.. I may be that after so much fuckups and lies plus uncovered propaganda - ya still don't get the message?? :1orglaugh

The Truth Hurts 10-16-2003 04:17 PM

my great grandparents came from canada.
please don't hold it against me.

justsexxx 10-16-2003 04:19 PM

Isn't it a great team?

http://images.bt2.metropol.dk/206/20...6322_small.jpg :1orglaugh

Webby 10-16-2003 04:23 PM

The Truth Hurts:

Quote:

my great grandparents came from canada.
please don't hold it against me.
Were they in the arms dealing business as well and you gotta deny they exist??:winkwink:

sperbonzo 10-16-2003 04:50 PM

We should completely overlook the fact that pretty much ALL of the major industrialists of ALL the Allied powers were doing business with the Nazi's during the same period.....

but never mind:glugglug

theking 10-16-2003 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
We should completely overlook the fact that pretty much ALL of the major industrialists of ALL the Allied powers were doing business with the Nazi's during the same period.....

but never mind:glugglug

And you win the prize...but this fact does not fit into the agenda of the Webbies of the world.

theking 10-16-2003 04:58 PM

What does it all mean "Alfie"?

DTK 10-16-2003 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
We should completely overlook the fact that pretty much ALL of the major industrialists of ALL the Allied powers were doing business with the Nazi's during the same period.....

but never mind:glugglug

Yup:thumbsup Check out a book called Trading With The Enemy by Charles Higham

Sly_RJ 10-16-2003 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
We should completely overlook the fact that pretty much ALL of the major industrialists of ALL the Allied powers were doing business with the Nazi's during the same period.....

but never mind:glugglug

Stop it. Enough lies. There's no way independent companies would be doing business with companies/governments in another country!

brand0n 10-16-2003 05:15 PM

part 4

bush is a nazi? gtfo

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hyatla 10-16-2003 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by advertiser
A. Adult webmasters boards are for issues dealing with adult webmastering.
B. Who gives a fuck
C. Who gives a fuck

Nazis shut down porn sites.

I heard someone in LA is already arrested for making "obsene" video.

I don't mean this is a nazi country. :2 cents:

bhutocracy 10-17-2003 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sperbonzo
We should completely overlook the fact that pretty much ALL of the major industrialists of ALL the Allied powers were doing business with the Nazi's during the same period.....

but never mind:glugglug

which is what shits me when people knee jerk defend their countries and citizens actions in blind nationalism. Every country will do bad things for profit and power and no country is above reproach.

bhutocracy 10-17-2003 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Stop it. Enough lies. There's no way independent companies would be doing business with companies/governments in another country!

companies stop being independant when they give campaign contributions to those in power or generate enough money and power to put one of their own elite in power. John Kennedy in this respect is no different to bush.

Xenophage 10-18-2003 08:32 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ht=nazi+b ush


hmm and they met up in cali this week

the world is truely a scary place

chodadog 10-18-2003 10:30 PM

Goddamn, Lars. The chick in your signature looks like she's got tourettes syndrome. The nervous tick isn't sexy at all!

http://banners.images.streamray.com/...l1-150x225.gif

When animated gifs go horribly wrong. :winkwink:

Xenophage 10-18-2003 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chodadog
Goddamn, Lars. The chick in your signature looks like she's got tourettes syndrome. The nervous tick isn't sexy at all!

http://banners.images.streamray.com/...l1-150x225.gif

When animated gifs go horribly wrong. :winkwink:

hahah nice now that lens banned flash ads I gotta get Mark T to make me a buncha new ones animated gifs

hottoddy 10-18-2003 10:40 PM

Greg B., go back to posting crop cirlces and vapor contrails. They are far more compelling.

Jon 10-18-2003 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
Isn't it a great team?

http://images.bt2.metropol.dk/206/20...6322_small.jpg :1orglaugh

Man on the left's Grandfather was a fan of the Nazis.
Man on the right's Father was an SS (Gestapo) soldier.

Lovely.

Jon 10-18-2003 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greg B
Bush-Nazi Link Confirmed
Documents in National Archives Prove
George W. Bush's Grandfather Traded
with Nazis - Even After Pearl Harbor

Funny that you mention this, "traded with nazis - even after pearl harbor"..

Because if I remember correctly, IBM built the system for the Nazis to keep track of jews, the killing of them, and all sorts of different shit. In fact, they didn't stop providing services for the Nazis until almost the end of the war, when they saw that the Nazis weren't going to be winning the war... But hey, everyone seems to overlook that shit..

Furious_Female 10-19-2003 04:19 AM

Guess we should boycott Volkswagen too. No sense in having any part of things that stemmed in ancient history, in another era. As a matter of fact, if we reject everything related to things that happened in a time, that no one knew better... I guess we wouldn't be as modern as we are today :( Everyone throw your computers in a bon fire... who knows what has Nazi root relations!!

:1orglaugh People need to stop digging for conspiracy theories all fuckin day long. Geez... I'm writing to google!
------------------------------
Dear google,

Please install rate limits on searches, there's an epidemic of wackos digging for meaningless propaganga 24/7.

Thanks,
FF

broke 10-19-2003 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female

Dear google,

Please install rate limits on searches, there's an epidemic of wackos digging for meaningless propaganga 24/7.

Thanks,
FF

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


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