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FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 07:19 AM

Mo Patents, Mo Money - Acacia like business plans
 
For those reading the threads about Acacia, and in particular about how some adult industry players have patents, this article that I wrote on Sept 2nd, titled: Mo Patents, Mo Money: Making money by licensing patents should be of interest. Located at:http://www.fighthepatent.com/v2/MakingMoney.html


For the link-click challenged, the article is present below without any commcercial interruption, rated TV-MA





Mo Patents, Mo Money: Making money by licensing patents

As you can tell by reading the news and this website, there is a new way to make money. Forget about making a product that people will buy and use. Forget about inventing gadgets and devices that cause consumers to flock to you. Forget about starting a dot-com business and trying to be execute on a business plan.

The way to make money nowadays is to buy patents or to file patents for all kinds of ideas, and then later, license the patent to other companies.

For those that remember the Unisys/GIF issue of having to license the GIF patent, there is a small sigh of relief that the patent just expired! But as you recall, Unisys came out of dormancy by requiring software manufacturers to license the GIF image format. GIF images were so widely used by website and graphic programs that the whole computer industry was up in arms.

A company down in Austin, Texas is now coming back for the Unisys/GIF sequel and claiming the patent to JPEG! They are taking the right approach towards patent enforcement/licensing.. target businesses that MAKE PRODUCTS that utilize the patents.

If Forgent had followed Acacia's strategy, they would be suing every website that had JPEG images on them. This author believes that Acacia should have FIRST targeted companies like Real Networks and Microsoft for producing the technology that they felt violated their patents. If they really did own the patent to streaming/downloading audio, then let the big businesses (who are profitable) deal with the licensing issues. They in turn would end up passing down costs to the consumers.

Speaking of which..... Do you know how much money a DVD manufacturer has to pay for MPEG, Dolby, and DVD licensing to make a DVD player? The answer is about $20 per machine. This article details the licensing fees and how China is producing DVD players WITHOUT paying for licenses.

The cost of licensing a patent gets passed onto the consumers eventually. So with these kinds of licensing fees, and despite mass purchases by Walmart, we'll probably never see a $20 DVD player.

So if you are up late at night and watching TV, and you see those ads for patenting your invention/idea, maybe you might pay more attention to them now. Who knows, you may have some crazy idea today, that technologically speaking can't be created, but wait about 5-10 years and maybe it will. And by then, you'll be able to start suing companies and licensing patents.

You don't need a business plan or investors! Just come up with crazy ideas, file the patents, and wait for technology and people to start using your idea. This is the new, new, new, new, new, new economy.



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pimplink 10-15-2003 07:23 AM

No wonder malpractice insurance for intellectual property lawyers in CALIFORNIA has exploded recently.

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 07:31 AM

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Originally posted by pimplink
No wonder malpractice insurance for intellectual property lawyers in CALIFORNIA has exploded recently.

yes, i was chatting with a CA attorney in a large firm and aske why they didn't have patents practice and he said it was due to the high costs of insurance.

Whichever patent firm that Hustler/Vivid used, I hope they have their insurance premiums paid up.

They could have emailed me to get my opinion on the issues since i am very active in the search for prior art, but nada, no word.

I have decided to post my prior art finds. Squirt came across a video clip that sheds some light on prior art.. tho the video is not prior art, it does let people see what was going in the late 80's that looked very similar to what Acacia's patent claims are.

I have found more solid pieces of prior art, and have posted them for all to see/read/hear. I will be adding more as i weed through my stuff.



http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Squirt.html




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12clicks 10-15-2003 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

They could have emailed me to get my opinion on the issues since i am very active in the search for prior art, but nada, no word.

If my lawyers ever contact a chatboard warrior for opinion or advice, I'll have them disbarred.

GFED 10-15-2003 07:52 AM

:glugglug

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


If my lawyers ever contact a chatboard warrior for opinion or advice, I'll have them disbarred.


Ron,

If those audio files on your websites have already been covered by a license from Acacia, based on your attorney's opinion on the validity of the patents, then yes, you may have a malpractice/disbarring issue with them that you can toy with.

If you have not signed with them, and continue to make your disparaging remarks, you might just piss off some people on this board that do support my efforts and IMPA's efforts, who don't like loud-mouthed hypocrits and maybe they will send an anonymous tip to Acacia that includes your list of 153 websites, your company mailing address, etc... Acacia is always looking for new targets, especially ones that are profitable.. which you seem to be.

For some reason, you seem to have an issue with my efforts to bring awareness to people. Generate some awareness for yourself, look at some prior art http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Squirt.html

I am by no means threatening you at all. You have every right to say what you want....and as we know, alot of people say alot of crazy things on this board.. but I don't appreciate your negative comments because you seem to have your own personal agenda in trying to slander against my efforts.

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pimplink 10-15-2003 08:01 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks


If my lawyers ever contact a chatboard warrior for opinion or advice, I'll have them disbarred.

Public defenders handle civil lawsuits for patent infringement? NJ tax dollars at work! LOL :thumbsup :1orglaugh

12clicks 10-15-2003 08:27 AM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent



Ron,

If those audio files on your websites have already been covered by a license from Acacia, based on your attorney's opinion on the validity of the patents, then yes, you may have a malpractice/disbarring issue with them that you can toy with.

If you have not signed with them, and continue to make your disparaging remarks, you might just piss off some people on this board that do support my efforts and IMPA's efforts, who don't like loud-mouthed hypocrits and maybe they will send an anonymous tip to Acacia that includes your list of 153 websites, your company mailing address, etc... Acacia is always looking for new targets, especially ones that are profitable.. which you seem to be.

look half wit, this is the second time you've "not threatened" me.
If you're going to do something, tough guy, I suggest you stop talking about it and be about it.

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
For some reason, you seem to have an issue with my efforts to bring awareness to people.
No, I have no issue with you bringing awareness to people. Could you please just tell us where you received your law degree and what type of law you specialize in?
After all, if you feel other lawyers should be getting your opinion on things you must be an accomplished lawyer.

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
Generate some awareness for yourself, look at some prior art http://www.FightThePatent.com/v2/Squirt.html
There's no need. I know prior art exists.

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
I am by no means threatening you at all.
Thank God! I was going to lose sleep over that one.

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
You have every right to say what you want....and as we know, alot of people say alot of crazy things on this board..
ahhhh, you must be a first amendment lawyer. is that it?

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
but I don't appreciate your negative comments because you seem to have your own personal agenda in trying to slander against my efforts.

assclown, this link represents your 99 thread agenda of which I've opposed your viewpoint 2 times:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...der=descending
If you've got a problem with me because 2 times out of 99 I've questioned you, I believe you've got something to hide.
You want to *not threaten me* you go right ahead. Perhaps you'll get to learn how I'm dealing with acacia but I promise you, it won't be worth the price.
:thumbsup

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

I believe you've got something to hide.


no, i am not a lawyer, you clearly have not read my information at http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Fou...dorsements.php

How can i threaten you with anything? Sue you for what? For being a jerk on 2 out of 99 threads? puh-leeez

As far as your efforts to "fight" Acacia.. that's great if you are trying to fight or fighting the urge to settle.. it's your business, none of mine.

The webmasters who have pledged, who have contacted me on these issues, who have been reading my posts, all feel that Acacia is a serious issue, and that my efforts are positive ones.

If you are trying to expose me for something.. then you do have a personal agenda.. maybe you think I am looking to scam webmasters in their pledges? Is that it? Be sure to check with your attorneys first before you go slandering down that road.

If you are trying provide constructive criticism of any of my efforts, i am open to them... probably the only critique is that I should have just ignored your posts.


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GreenBooger 10-15-2003 08:44 AM

I think Fightthispatent needs to shut the fuck up and let homegrown do their job

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 08:48 AM

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Originally posted by GreenBooger
I think Fightthispatent needs to shut the fuck up and let homegrown do their job

now here is some constructive criticism.... GreenBooger is saying that my posts to answer people's questions and concerns about Acacia are of no use.

That the prior art finds that I send to HomeGrown, IMPA, etc are of no use

That all the personal time that i have devoted to fight against patent abuse cases like Acacia that ultimately help defend YOUR right to have audio or video is of no use.

That when Spike or Far-L post on this board about all the great work that I am doing, that it if no use.

Your post count and your knowledge level need some raising.


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12clicks 10-15-2003 08:50 AM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent



no, i am not a lawyer, you clearly have not read my information at

Not a lawyer? yet you feel other lawyers should consult you but don't think you'll be laughted at over it. ok.


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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
How can i threaten you with anything?
exactly


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Originally posted by FightThisPatent

The webmasters who have pledged, who have contacted me on these issues, who have been reading my posts, all feel that Acacia is a serious issue, and that my efforts are positive ones.

yet there are thousands of webmasters who haven't pledged or contacted you.
perhaps its because of your court jester actions.

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
If you are trying to expose me for something.. then you do have a personal agenda..
I've exposed idiots in this business for years. Believe me its nothing personal.
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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
maybe you think I am looking to scam webmasters in their pledges? Is that it? Be sure to check with your attorneys first before you go slandering down that road.
where'd that come from? guilty conscience?


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Originally posted by FightThisPatent
If you are trying provide constructive criticism of any of my efforts, i am open to them...
stop being a clown. ask yourself why no one big has offered their support (I'm sure I read that in another post. feel free to correct me)

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

ask yourself why no one big has offered their support


Probably the same reason that IMPA's donation count is so low (they just don't publish that info like i do)

Probably the same reason why Free Speech Coalition has only about 900 members.

Probably the same reason why Adult Sites Against Child Pornography (ASACP) has few members (but alot of GREAT sponsors).

Probably why Internet Freedom Association has a few members.



All of them have the same answers to your question..... webmasters are busy with their own lives and don't care to contribute to causes that look after their interests. The ones that are aware and do care, are the ones that join.

Check your own membership cards in your wallet to see if you have any of the above associations in there..

If you aren't members to any of these groups that look after issues for you, then ask yourself why YOU aren't a member of them..

Since you have experience in exposing scams, i first would have to say hat's-off to you... newbie webmasters and webmasters in general are many times confronted with scam artists. If you been able to expose them, then that's great.

If you think i am a scam artist... do more research, alot more....

Every day that goes by without you being able to find something to "expose" me means you got it all wrong.



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12clicks 10-15-2003 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by FightThisPatent


Since you have experience in exposing scams, i first would have to say hat's-off to you... newbie webmasters and webmasters in general are many times confronted with scam artists. If you been able to expose them, then that's great.

If you think i am a scam artist... do more research, alot more....

Every day that goes by without you being able to find something to "expose" me means you got it all wrong.

I spend no time researching anyone. I ask questions, they expose themselves.

you do yourself a disservice when you question the actions of someone's lawyers.
I think you're doing something valuable but going about it all wrong.

FightThisPatent 10-15-2003 09:19 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

you do yourself a disservice when you question the actions of someone's lawyers.
I think you're doing something valuable but going about it all wrong.



thank-you, finally, constructive criticism..

yes, you are right, maybe I shouldn't be calling anyone's attorney's competence into question... this should be done by the client themselves...

I apologize to you and to anyone that read my comment, and took offense, about casting some doubt upon the competence of a company's patent attorney.

point taken.


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