FightThisPatent - please silence the pedo!
 

Brandon, you have the power to silence this moron.

All it takes is one little word :glugglug

[or so he says]

:helpme :helpme :helpme

Please...please...please...tell him to get lost.

yes, sex education has said to me in ICQ that if i find his posts to be annoying that i should say so...

and while his posts are sometimes a bit more colorful than most, i recognize the fact that he has his right to say what he wants, as long as he doesn't interject his own personal crusade into the acacia threads.


Fight the Patent!

You may not find them annoying, but the rest of us do. We're reading your posts because they're useful and extremely important.

Some asshole with an overinflated opinion of his ability to draw attention to something people are already extremely interested in and threatening people who are already trying to help you or stay informed is retarded.

He actually makes me want to stop reading your threads because he's so fucken retarded.

For the record - what he just said.

GFY does have an ignore feature...

That's not the point though. There's also people from outside the adult world who could sneak in and see what this guy says.

He's more than just a tick on OUR back - it's the industrys back at this point.

I second that motion.

The problem is that someone may take this guy seriously and think that he is truly representative of our industry as a whole, when in fact, he has NOTHING TO DO with our industry. He runs a horrible site with "facts" that are totally wrong, material that is supposed to be for adults, or so he claims, and he advertises it on forums that children frequent. See for yourself www.horseforums.com. He doesn't see what he does as wrong, but the second people start taking this asshole seriously, he's gaining legitimacy, and that's something he has neither earned, nor does he EVER deserve. It goes even FAR deeper than that, but the police will deal with that when the time comes, as he is currently under investigation from SEVERAL agencies that I'm personally aware of.

Don't ruin your cause by associating prematurely with the "wrong" people. Having him as a champion for your cause will not forward it, and may indeed hurt it.

Under investigation for what...and by what agencies...and what proof do you have to present that he is under investigation?

What's more annoying... sexeducation himself, or the people complaining about sexeducation?

Ignore the moron. The people arguing with him ruin just as many ACACIA threads as he does. I don't even read his posts, never have. Stop giving him so much fucking attention. We all know he's an idiot, anyone who can't pick up on that from his posts could only be his spawn, and we all know not many 12 year olds can bare children...

Educate me about this guy Sly...if you will? Outside of someone not liking his site or his posts (which is not uncommon)...what is the real deal?

I haven't the slightest idea. I know nothing about him. Only thing I don't like about him is he spazzed out on me for nothing once, oh, and the fact that he baits people into ruining almost every fucking ACACIA thread.

Not for nothing Brandon... but it's interesting that one of your biggest supporters is the resident GFY pedo.

It's a little curious that you keep the association with this guy (regardless of him being helpful at times or not) considering the other association you are affiliated with.

I'm not at liberty to discuss some of it.. but the Calgary Police are one, and I have communications from as I was one of the people who reported the original content he had on his wonderful little site.. Myself and about 20 other people sent them screen caps etc. And the fact that he is still actively advertising his website on forums where children have access is a pressing issue that they see as a very real threat.

In other words...nothing new...pretty much just typical GFY BS.

How about you just search for his name on the search? See the threads where he admitted he had child porn on his site, oh and the threads where all his meta tags (with all KINDS of fun pedo keywords), his articles (like the one he wrote about the nipples of 15 year olds girls) and the chat boards he had going where 13 year olds were asking for sex. Check it for yourself, don't take MY word for it :P Don't forget the artcile he wrote about how to find children for sex in foreign countries.

Do a search... he changed almost everything when his hosting got pulled.

I just looked at his site a few minutes ago. Meta tags in order...registered with RSAC...I personally did not even see anything that is XXX rated on his site. Where in lies "a very real threat" and to whom? What is it that I am missing?

Sexed's posts are the ascii equivalent of fingers on a chalkboard.

Some consider my posts to be the same...and I consider 90 plus percent of the posts that I read to be the same.

I have no association with him and he hasn't pledged any $$ either.

I can't control what other people post and I have no right to do so.

yes, his posts can sidetrack the thread, and cause negative attention to the thread and my efforts... but so do other people who post negative comments to me.... should I tell them to stop posting as well?

What i have told SexEducation is to not post his personal crusade issues about sex education in the threads where people are seriously concerned about the issues.

There is one thread that he started that people jumped in to post some very obscene images... as soon as i saw that, i never went back to that thread.

I don't particulary care for interjections into the threads where it is not relevant, and the resulting slam-fest that happens when he does, but i am not one to tell someone what to do.

All i can do is state my thoughts.

I hope this makes it clear about your curiosity on this issue.

Fight the Patnet!

He has clearly stated that he will stop if you tell him. If you do so, perhaps some people here will pledge.

This is his new crusade, and it's just as obnoxious because he has about as much to do with this industry as he does with Sex Education...nothing.

Please put a stop to it, becuase it seems like only you will be able to. I'm sure it would be worth your while as well.

I am hoping that people will pledge on the merits of the idea behind Fight the Patent Foundation and the charter it wishes to serve, not by who i choose to silence.

I am sure that SexEducation is intelligent enough to understand that any negativity that is drawn into a serious thread only hurts mine and other people's efforts, despite his good intentions.


Fight the Patent!

That's your problem. He doesn't care and I'm sure you've already seen...he's an attention whore and this is just another means for him to get attention. His intentions are not good, he only wants the attention.

I believe in the merits of the idea behind what you are doing, but since there's another group I can send what little I have to...that's where it's going to go. I speak for myself on this one, but have a feeling others are on board as well.

All you have to do is tell him to knock it off...it's as simple as that. He doesn't help...he only hurts your cause as long as you associate with him, or in this case he associates himself with you.

Again...he's not part of the industry. He's just an attention whore.

If telling another human being to not post any comments is going to cause me to lose pledges, then it's the price that I pay for keeping my integrity. I don't condone his actions or his words.. they are his.. if it upsets you, take it up with him. If i post something that upsets you, take it up for me... don't make other people responsible for other people's actions.. that's just not fair.

In case you didn't read this page (http://www.fightthepatent.com/v2/Fou...dorsements.php) about my "adult industry experiences), you will find that I do more than just say CP is bad... i actually do something about it, I volunteer my time as CTO, build up their intranet, and provide technology that assists in fighting against CP. I am personally making a difference with my actions.

I doubt that his posts are reasons that the pledge counter is so low.

You would be disappointed to know the amount of contributions given by adult webmasters to ASACP. If it weren't for the sponsorships, it would be alot harder to fight the fight.



Fight the Patent!

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I wondered who had horseforums when I was looking at domain names a few weeks ago.

Congratulations, Brandon. You are officially a hypocrite.

I wasn't aware that "free speech" now included being able to push porn on children, use cp keywords and file structures, instruct and encourage 15 year olds to join porn sites, and write sexually explicit messages to them about their bodies. For the record, I doubt that you could get him to stop, anyway. He'll keep doing this until Lensman (or someone) bans him. Apparently, they have no intentions on doing that and plan on letting him spew his shit all over the board. So be prepared to have every thread of yours that he posts in, ruined. No problem. You just go right ahead keeping your "integrity" by taking up for King Pedo's right to his "free speech". Sickos like him, need more people like you.

Oh, since you mentioned the ASACP let me leave you with this little nugget from "Dad": (That's what he has the kids who write to him about sex, call him. Creepy, ain't it? But God Bless his free speech!!!!)

Copied directly from his site:
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ANTI-CHILD PORNOGRAPHY
Or Just Another Scam

A Dad Rant & Ramble ...
You're talking to a guy with thousands and thousands of members - and yes - even I am ripped "F@#$%^" off. Just like you will be if you buy any penis enlargement program.

ASACP stands for Adult Sites Against Child Pornography ... YES it's even on my homepage (the static one) yet NO-ONE actually knows WHAT THE F**** THEY DO ??? They're just NUMBER ONE. Well F**** THAT ... I joined their affiliate programs and GOT F****ING RIPPPPPPED OFF just like every penis enlargement program out there does too.

How? Well I joined their adult affiliate program which in theory means that a visitor from this website which goes to theirs - and buys access to one of their "porn" sites - should generate a commission for SexEducation.com. In theory ! But - unless you are a master programmer you will most likely get ripped off.

How do they track these commissions due? Well its built into the referring URL. Usually an affiliate, with any affiliate program, is given a unique URL/website address. Usually that address has a query string portion to it. Meaning, there is a question mark and then some type of database field added to an Internet address. For example; in the URL
http://www.ripmeoffHELMY.com?id=1234&rid=5678
the value 1234 is stored in the variable ID and the value of 5678 is stored in the variable RID. In this example, ID means your affiliate number and RID means the Referring IDentification number of who sent you to get your original ID.

Now if those ID numbers do not follow the surfer as they tour the http://www.ripmeoffHELMY.com website then there is a problem. For example; if from the homepage you click on TOUR and the first page of that tour is "tour_page1.html" then for proper tracking the URL should be
http://www.ripmeoffHELMY.com/tour_pa...=1234&rid=5678

unless they use a cookie which stores those values in your web browser cache directory. Now - thanks to Microsoft and their constant flip-flopping on how cookies should be written and read - cookies can be very tricky. Basically, and without notice - Microsoft instantly changed how cookies are written and read in their browsers. For example; in MSIE 5.x browsers on WinDOZE 98 you have to shut down all browsers and reboot the computer to force all cookies to be written to the hard drive where you can see them.

So after getting the usual technical run around, I emailed them and said that the URL's were not containing my ID number in them AND there were no cookies on my system after rebooting twice. Basically they said they used a variety of sophisticated tracking techniques using the latest technology. Happy New Year...however, when visitors leave my website to go to yours - my ID number is in the URL and then it disappears. Not only that - but when the visitor gets to the order form not only is my ID number not there - someone else's is there instead. So they fixed that. If a visitor from SexEducation.com went to their website and IMMEDIATELY went to the order form (no tour) my ID would show. Take a tour - and it switched to someone else's - probably the "house account."

I emailed them back - and said thanks for fixing this "technical issue" however the same thing is now occurring in your pop-ups and exit consoles. They had a look and fix the pop-up too. I emailed them back again and said the same thing is occurring in the exit consoles and also unless you click on the order form immediately (the second click) my ID does not show - and again not only is it not showing - but someone else's ID is showing instead. Their answer was ...

THAT'S JUST THE WAY THE ADULT INDUSTRY IS!

And they are right. The adult online sex industry is the biggest rip off there is. They will cheat lie and steal any chance they get. Helmy is the primary sponsor of ASACP or Adult Sites Against Child Pornography and they are one of the biggest ripoffs I have experienced. They say they have closed down thousands of child pornography websites - but who actually friggen knows.

They are the biggest rip off for their commercial porn sites - do you not think their morals carry over to ASACP ? Most likely ....

Dad@
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How bout you hit the goddamn search button? Plenty of people have dredged up his shit, for months. If you're too lazy to look for it- fine. But don't act like it hasn't been done. Again, and again, and again.

theKing:

King.. as I have said more than once - you know fuck all about anything and neither LadyM or I are going to discuss sexeducation with you!

There is more relevant stuff than pandering to some fact finding nosy asshole.

It's easy to pull up a website from the past before people made changes, just use the way back machine located at www.archive.org to find past versions of the said persons website designs and what might have been there before the site was changed:)


IE: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sexeducation.com

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You must not read anything that I have posted, or just don't get it...i'll keep my post short.

I don't condone his website. (If you think he has CP stuff, report it to: http://www.asacp.org/reportsite.html A Human reviewer takes a look at all leads sent, and if you include your email, you will get a response.)

He can do whatever he wants.

Yes it is free speech.. the same free speech that allows you to run an adult-oriented website, the same free speech that ACLU protects for groups like the KKK, the same free speech that Free Speech Coalition fights for.

I have no right to tell ANYONE to shut their mouth and not post any messages.

Since you seem to think I am a hypocrite about CP, please email me your website at brandon -at- asacp.org so that I can verify that you are a member to ASACP.



Fight the Patent!

Considering I did see it before he changed it (and in fact, was one of the people who reported him for the material he did have), I know what was there. The wayback machine might be useful for those in doubt, however. Kindly check into it yourself :P

Oh. I see. So sexually explicit porn websites that purposely target minors, use domains like "k12sexeducation", "highschoolsexeducation", and "catholicsexeducation" all pointed at a porn site, use cp keywords and meta tags, have child porn pics, and all the other goodies that we know of and that he's already admitted to, fall under that blanket of "free speech"? So why are you working with the ASACP and fighting child porn? Doesn't that fall under the pedos' rights for free speech, too? Or is it just random? If they're getting you attention and getting your sig shown, then it's okay and protected under "free speech", right? Don't worry, Brandon, I've read your posts and I understand exactly what you're saying.

And you have every right to tell him to shut his mouth, because he SAID you do. He wrote that if you told him to stop, he would. It would be a simple thing for you to do. The fact that you won't, shows you're obviously happy to whore out your sig impressions using a child obsessed sicko. Way to go. I'm sure the ASACP must be really proud.

Don't check your email for my websites, either. I wouldn't send you a copy of my last pap smear or the vet's report on my dog's anal exam he got last week because he's mysteriously crapping blood. A free speech and ASACP crusader who fights for the "free speech" rights of kiddie lovers, isn't entitled or qualified to verify jack shit, imo.


Fight the patent! Support the pedos!

"How bout" I don't do a "goddamn search". I do not do searches on subjects that I have little interest in...nor do I read 90 plus percent of the threads on this board.

I don't recall asking you to discuss sexeducation with me...but if you are involved I must assume halftruths...and BS are the theme.

Then if you aren't willing to back up what you say, and just sit here and tell us we're all full of shit without arming yourself with ALL of the story, shut the FUCK UP.

Specifically what is it that I said that requires backing up and please post the quote where I said you are "full of shit"...if you cannot then...maybe it is you that should "shut the FUCK UP".

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No need in trying to point out how ignorant your are. You do a swell job all by yourself. :thumbsup

For someone who has "little interest" in this subject, you suuuuurre do make a lot of posts about it, don't you? :winkwink:

Damn, I laughed so hard you made me make a typo in that first one. Let me just do the whole thing again. I think it's worth repeating.

Holly,

I clearly understand the sensitivity to the issue of CP. As I have said in words and in actions, I am involved in the fight to stop CP.

While I would hope that my words and my thoughts might inspire people to move towards action like helping to fight against patent abuse, I never considered that my words could command someone to stop their posting.

Maybe I do have that "power" and that's why you haven't seen any SexEducation posts in here? or maybe he is recognizing the fact that I am taking flak here for simply saying I have no right or power to shut anyone up, and leaving it at that.

If you want to help stop CP, you can direct your energies at becoming an ASACP member.. because the membership and contributions to ASACP do make a difference.

-brandon

No...I don't.

First inquiring post about the subject.

Second inquiring post about the subject.

That constitutes my intial interest...and the end of my interest in the subject of sexeducation.

Have you done a search on SexEds posts? He does not only post on FTP stuff at all .. he is ALL OVER.

The ONLY ones TRYING to associate people with guy are you and a few others in this thread. You are pulling people into this, me included, when you say that because he is in a thread that we create we support CP???? So talk radio programs are automatically associate with people that call in to the program? What planet are you on?

Check the threads SexEd has posted on and go tell everyone of those thread starters they are associated with SexEd.. see what your reponse is.. better yet start a thread stating " all those who open a thread that SexEd is a part of are associating themselves with CP"

See what your response is.. maybe you can make a difference and get him banned?

it sounds like you guys think brandon is responsible for sexeducations site and messages. Do you guys really think that he will close his site because brandon says so?

He is simply saying that he doesnt want to control what sexed post, that has nothing to do with the sites the idiot runs. Give him a fucking break.

I've dealt with Sexed on several boards even before he hit GFY. I'm sick of his bs.

And since when did I say that you are supporting CP? MY statement was a simple warning about the guy.. I don't want anyone to take him seriously.. Why? because he's a threat to our industry. Why not stop trying to hard to pick apart everything I say, and go look up his threads for yourself? Don't try to pawn bullshit off on me, believe me, I've dealt with this ass. I don't go around randomly accusing people of CP. Why do I say what I say about sexed? I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES. I took screen caps, forwarded them to police.

The second people start taking him seriously is the second that he's going to start getting away with more. Is that what you want? Are you happy to know there's a predator among us? Besmirching our industry, which already has a bad rep? Don't go all righteous on me. Point out to me EXACTLY where I said that if you are in a thread with him you support CP. Please, Quote me that exact statement. You won't find it because I never said it. Now please, stop spouting bullshit and actually READ my post.

And as you've been advised repeatedly- hit the damn search button. All the answers are right there. We're not your fucking secretaries. If you're too damn lazy to do that, then I honestly could care less. But don't mouth off with your stupid "gfy bullshit" comments about something that you admittedly know nothing about.

No, I certainly never implied that. However from what I understand Sexed told FTP that he would stop posting if he asked him to. I believe this thread was an attempt at making him be quiet :) I don't know, I'm busy being preached at :P