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Stud Money 10-04-2003 02:12 PM

You Are Gay Before Birth
 
http://uk.gay.com/headlines/5148

A new study claims to prove that sexual orientation is decided before birth, being "hard-wired" into the human brain along with other key traits.

The report, a combination of work between the University of East London (UEL) and the Institute of Psychiatry, investigates sex differences in the startle response - the eye-blink reaction to sudden loud noises.

According to a release today, it found that there was a notable difference between homosexual and heterosexual subjects.

And because the startle response is an involuntary reaction, rather than a product of environmental conditioing, researchers claim it is a strong indication that sexual orientation is determined before birth.

They add that the report is the first to offer independent evidence of a "non-learned neurological basis for sexual orientation", with other report linking foetal development with testosterone levels being hotly contested.

Scientists used a technique known as prepulse inhibition (PPI), which measures the strength of response to loud noises.

Results showed clear differences between the groups, with lesbians showing a markedly stronger inhibition (a PPI of 33%) compared to straight women (just 13%).

Although the difference between heterosexual men and gay men is less extreme, 40% vs 32% respectively, researchers claim the difference is still significant.

"The startle response is pre-conscious and cannot be learned, " UEL's Dr Qazi Rahman explained.

"It is mediated by an ancient region of the brain called the limbic system which also controls sexual behaviour."

Dr Rahman added that the findings could have a large impact on the way sexuality is treated, both culturally and during health programmes.

"These findings may well affect the way we as a society deal with sexuality and the issues surrounding sexual orientation," he said.

"They may also have far-reaching health implications, offering clues as to why men and women, and gay men and lesbians, sometimes suffer from different types of mental health disorders.

"If we know that certain groups differ from each other in brain function or a biological marker then we are in a position to provide better treatments which are tailored to suit particular groups".

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LadyMischief 10-04-2003 02:13 PM

Wouldn't really surprise me, since homosexuality isn't all that uncommon in nature either. It's not unknown for animals like wolves or other types of animals to have homosexual pairings. It's not COMMON, but it does happen. If it was "taught" thing, where would the animals learn it?

Stud Money 10-04-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LadyMischief
If it was "taught" thing, where would the animals learn it?
Animal school? lol

Daymare 10-04-2003 02:14 PM

this thread is gay

Lane 10-04-2003 02:14 PM

there are anomalies in everything

Spunky 10-04-2003 02:14 PM

Homo :glugglug

Adorno 10-04-2003 02:20 PM

Being a queen is not genetic.

<IMX> 10-04-2003 02:20 PM

Would that be a good thing?

If there was an ability to decifier whether a child had a non-standard genetic trait, how many parents might abort that fetus?

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Adorno 10-04-2003 02:22 PM

"non-standard". The polite way of saying "defective".

Poo-Chee 10-04-2003 02:25 PM

nice to know

marcu5 10-04-2003 02:34 PM

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snipah7 10-04-2003 02:39 PM

do you like beastiality before birth?

Centurion 10-04-2003 05:27 PM

So, if a car backfires when you're a fetus, you come out with the "Queer Eye"?

Interesting.
Start popping balloons around pregnant women and see what eventually happens!:1orglaugh

Furious_Female 10-04-2003 07:57 PM

I always believed in what the study's findings concluded. I never believed being homosexual or heterosexual is a choice. It's been known by scientists for a long time that lesbians have higher levels of testosterone and gay men have higher levels of estrogen. And if you think back to grammar school and know who is gay as an adult... you realize those people were gay from an early age. I also don't think being homosexual is a birth defect... a human is a human. I didn't ask to be heterosexual anymore than someone asked to be gay. I hope more people realize it's genetic and not a choice, would reduce discrimination :thumbsup

OsirisID 10-04-2003 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Centurion
So, if a car backfires when you're a fetus, you come out with the "Queer Eye"?

Interesting.
Start popping balloons around pregnant women and see what eventually happens!:1orglaugh


Hahahaha!

Pad 10-04-2003 08:33 PM

here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!:thumbsup

Centurion 10-04-2003 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Furious_Female
I always believed in what the study's findings concluded. I never believed being homosexual or heterosexual is a choice. It's been known by scientists for a long time that lesbians have higher levels of testosterone and gay men have higher levels of estrogen. And if you think back to grammar school and know who is gay as an adult... you realize those people were gay from an early age. I also don't think being homosexual is a birth defect... a human is a human. I didn't ask to be heterosexual anymore than someone asked to be gay. I hope more people realize it's genetic and not a choice, would reduce discrimination :thumbsup
Umm..actually the point about gay men having more estrogen than straight men isn't true. Where did you get that from?

I agree with you it is a pre-disposition from birth (what causes it exactly I don't know). It is not a "choice" one makes.

LadyMischief 10-04-2003 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!:thumbsup

And you sir, are a hypocrite.

Centurion 10-04-2003 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!:thumbsup

Get this! If you were born STUPID..you'll ALWAYS be stupid.

Pad 10-04-2003 08:42 PM

big radical guy making fun of people behind computer screens, you're the coolest friendless & lifeless nerdy schmuck i know

JDog 10-04-2003 08:46 PM

That's a good fact! I was hardwired not to be gay! :Graucho

jDoG

p3rsian 10-04-2003 08:55 PM

you are gay !:321GFY

OsirisID 10-04-2003 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pad
here's another interesting fact; if you are a homosexual you are going to rot in hell for enternity you dirty faggots

bi chicks are a'ok!:thumbsup

Only DOG fearing christians believe in that shit..

Resolute 10-05-2003 03:24 AM

Does it really matter !!!!

As long as you a Good Person !


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