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NBDesign 10-02-2003 10:46 AM

Taking it to the board!!!!
 
I need help!!!

Anyone know anything about Ultra ATA, FIC 1st Mainboard mother boards and Windows XP Pro...

I cannot seem to get this dam computer to boot with an ATA 100 drive connected... unplug the drive and it boots...

I installed the drivers into windows as directed... looked at Microsoft and FIC for support and nothing so I am taking this to the board for help...

Don't embarrass yourself with format C:.... this has nothing to do with format c lol

Thanks:winkwink:

strobi 10-02-2003 10:47 AM

still do a format c: :thumbsup

GrimShawn 10-02-2003 10:48 AM

http://www.netaxs.com/~vsp/whitebeaker.gif

TheEbonyFelony 10-02-2003 10:48 AM

format:brain

NBDesign 10-02-2003 10:49 AM

Everybody's a fucking comedian... anyone have any real suggestions?

EZRhino 10-02-2003 10:50 AM

Its either your drive, ide cables or ide socket. :2 cents:

Theo 10-02-2003 10:50 AM

fdisk first
and then format

GrimShawn 10-02-2003 10:51 AM

Do you have the newest version of flapjacks installed?

EZRhino 10-02-2003 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheEbonyFelony
format:brain
:1orglaugh

NBDesign 10-02-2003 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
Its either your drive, ide cables or ide socket. :2 cents:
Drive works on regular IDE....
Cable is fine... BIOS sees the drive on boot

it freezes when it hits Windows XP.....

Sexzity 10-02-2003 10:57 AM

2 hd?

1 as main and 1 as slave.:)

did't read you came to win before it crash.

Try hit F8 then booting and use safe mode

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sexzity
2 hd?

1 as main and 1 as slave.:)

3 Drives.... two on IDE1 (master slave)
1 DVD and 1 CD burner on IDE2 (master Slave)
1 HD on IDE 3 (Master/single drive)
0 on IDE 4

IDE 3&4 are either for ATA 100 or RAID....

It is a Segate Drive with ATA 100 and has an ATA 100 cable....

Jumpers on the Motherboard are set correctly.

This is a stumper... it has to be a conflict within Windows XP somewhere... not sure where or how to fix it....

rowan 10-02-2003 11:00 AM

Try disabling DMA, see if you can configure it to drop to ATA33, check out any other settings in the BIOS which may let you go backwards in terms of performance.

Is your motherboard new enough to support the size of the HD?

What happens if you put the HD into another machine, does it boot properly?

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Try disabling DMA, see if you can configure it to drop to ATA33, check out any other settings in the BIOS which may let you go backwards in terms of performance.

Is your motherboard new enough to support the size of the HD?

What happens if you put the HD into another machine, does it boot properly?

Yes.... FIC AN11 motherboard

HD works as regular IDE in this and other computers.

The system reads the drive.....

It's windows XP that is freezing when the computer starts.... everything is great up till windows

millionaire 10-02-2003 11:08 AM

Try removing the other drives leaving only the ata100 drive connected, then reboot.

Try what rowan said

Did you install winxp when the hard drive was on this computer? If not, format and reinstall.

Do you have multiple os's?

Are you using boot magic, etc?

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by millionaire
Try removing the other drives leaving only the ata100 drive connected, then reboot.
Nothing.... tried it.....

Quote:

Try what rowan said
will try......

Quote:

Did you install winxp when the hard drive was on this computer? If not, format and reinstall.
No... HD was on a server that crashed and has info tht is needed.... formating is not an option....

Quote:

Do you have multiple os's?
No, just Win XP Pro

Quote:

Are you using boot magic, etc?
No... nothing

broke 10-02-2003 11:31 AM

Ever hear of backups?

:thumbsup

millionaire 10-02-2003 11:34 AM

I would imagine the problem is because the OS was loaded on a different computer and the registry has the setting from the original computer.

Try making the ata100 a slave and booting the computer from the original OS. If you are lucky, the ata100 drive will be asigned a drive letter, go in via explorer and back everything up. (this should work as long as the ata100 was not formatted in NTFS)

If it is formatted in NTFS, then ring an expert.

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke
Ever hear of backups?

:thumbsup

Yes... heard of them... that is not an issue... I can hook the drive up to a regular IDE and grab the info.... problem is... I have 4 available openings and 5 devices....

3 Hard drives and 1 DVD and 1 CD Burner

If I can get the optional IDE's to work (ata 100 or raid) I can hook my 3rd drive up...

that is the problem

Lonny 10-02-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
I need help!!!

Anyone know anything about Ultra ATA, FIC 1st Mainboard mother boards and Windows XP Pro...

I cannot seem to get this dam computer to boot with an ATA 100 drive connected... unplug the drive and it boots...

I installed the drivers into windows as directed... looked at Microsoft and FIC for support and nothing so I am taking this to the board for help...

Don't embarrass yourself with format C:.... this has nothing to do with format c lol

Thanks:winkwink:

How the hell are your booting with out a drive.. I mean im no IT professional. But dam thats magic..

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by millionaire
I would imagine the problem is because the OS was loaded on a different computer and the registry has the setting from the original computer.

Try making the ata100 a slave and booting the computer from the original OS. If you are lucky, the ata100 drive will be asigned a drive letter, go in via explorer and back everything up. (this should work as long as the ata100 was not formatted in NTFS)

If it is formatted in NTFS, then ring an expert.

No OS on this drive.... just storage.

NTSF, 60gig of info too. I can always take off a CD drive to get to the information... but I want all my drives available......

NBDesign 10-02-2003 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ikonworx


How the hell are your booting with out a drive.. I mean im no IT professional. But dam thats magic..

I have a bootable drive.... this is an additional drive.... a 3rd drive that is used for storage.

Do you think thatt he ata needs to be a bootable drive?

broke 10-02-2003 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign

No... HD was on a server that crashed and has info tht is needed.... formating is not an option....

Hmmm... NO.

Formatting would be an option -- if you had backups.

Blah, blah, blah.

I format all the time... my system hums. Then again I have backups.

:winkwink:

Lonny 10-02-2003 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


I have a bootable drive.... this is an additional drive.... a 3rd drive that is used for storage.

I thought you were booting from that one drive only. A while back I had the same problem you having now. I bought a defected harddrive with bad clusters from fry's "dont buy from them anymore" If its not the drive then check out
http://www.experts-exchange.com/
you may find what you need their...

NBDesign 10-02-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke


Hmmm... NO.

Formatting would be an option -- if you had backups.

Blah, blah, blah.

I format all the time... my system hums. Then again I have backups.

:winkwink:

Now why would i want to format a drive that DOES NOT need formatting? That's like wiping your ass and not shitting. There is no need for it.

Please read the thread... this is not an issue of formatting a drive... this is drive number 3... not a main drive, not a bootable drive.. just storage.

NBDesign 10-02-2003 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ikonworx


I thought you were booting from that one drive only. A while back I had the same problem you having now. I bought a defected harddrive with bad clusters from fry's "dont buy from them anymore" If its not the drive then check out
http://www.experts-exchange.com/
you may find what you need their...

Thanks.. checking now.... Yea, even tried putting my boot drive on the ATA to see... and still nothing. :(

millionaire 10-02-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


No OS on this drive.... just storage.

NTSF, 60gig of info too. I can always take off a CD drive to get to the information... but I want all my drives available......

Ah, NTSF = secure filing system. As far as I am aware, you can only access a NTFS drive via the system it was set up on. It was invented for companies to securly store their data, so the only way in was via the original front door and therefore, if someone stole your computer and did not know the password, it was impossible to get at your info.

Before you jump off a bridge, call a hard drive recovery company for advice!

I always use the FAT system over NTFS for that very reason. With FAT, you can always get at your info via a DOS boot disk if all else fails.

NBDesign 10-02-2003 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by millionaire


Ah, NTSF = secure filing system. As far as I am aware, you can only access a NTFS drive via the system it was set up on. It was invented for companies to securly store their data, so the only way in was via the original front door and therefore, if someone stole your computer and did not know the password, it was impossible to get at your info.

Before you jump off a bridge, call a hard drive recovery company for advice!

I always use the FAT system over NTFS for that very reason. With FAT, you can always get at your info via a DOS boot disk if all else fails.

Here is the stumper... if that was the case... I should not be able to read the drive at all... if I replace the salve drive or one of the cd drives... it works fine.

I have even tried hooking up the bootable drive on the ATA which was formated on this machine and with this operating system and still windows will not load.

EZRhino 10-02-2003 12:31 PM

Hammer and duct tape .......... Fixes everything.

Lonny 10-02-2003 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EZRhino
Hammer and duct tape .......... Fixes everything.
:1orglaugh


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