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tha_timinator 10-02-2003 10:03 AM

My productivity sucks big time, what do I do wrong -- check my site!
 
Hi guys, I need your help. I've been in this business (celebrities to be exact) since 2000, but I've been out for 2 years. Now I'm working on my come-back, but it's hurting more than I hoped for.

When I launched my site back in 2000 I was a huge amateur, I did not know what I was doing. But I had success from day one. My traffic boosted out of nothing and cash started flowing in.
The past years I've been working several projects such as hosting, scripting and my general knowledge about the business has gone up from zero to decent.
Well, almost two weeks ago my site was ready to rock 'n roll so I started building traffic. As you can see it's a high quality content site (not a tgp), with hardly any blind links. All nonblindlinks automatically change positions in order to divide the traffic equally. I use TM3 for this. It all works like a charm, BUT I've got one frustrating problem:
MY PRODUCTIVITY SUCKS BIG TIME! (i.e. productivity at _my_ site)
It's not even approaching 1 (or 100%), and as a result my traffic hardly increases.

Now I would like to ask you guys to take a look (see sig) and tell me what could be a reason for this.
The top of the mainpage is completely jammed with outlinks: textlinks with description, thumbnails, a blind link. At the top of my content pages there's the 5 trades that owe most again.
A surfer will notice that all my links lead to sites that have content and are not misleading, plus that the description I have written about them is correct. So with this said, one would expect a surfer to click a lot right? He knows I'm not messing with him!
But well, that's not happening. Why not?

JamesK 10-02-2003 10:05 AM

my sites have 450%+ prod. icq me

brizzad 10-02-2003 10:06 AM

they're not showing enough skin

strobi 10-02-2003 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard
my sites have 450%+ prod. icq me
:GFYBand

Evil1 10-02-2003 10:11 AM

Wheres the fucking porn?

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad
they're not showing enough skin
you mean the thumbs at the top?

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil1
Wheres the fucking porn?
it's not a porn site, nonnude sites also get visitors right?

bugout 10-02-2003 10:18 AM

not misleading...

Well to start, the britney photo links at the top lead to evreything but her pics.. mirror1.. mirror2.. quite misleading if you ask me..

That pissed me off :Graucho .. i wonder how a surfer will feel

Fool them once, they dont come back.. They've been burned too much in the 2 years you've been gone.

Evil1 10-02-2003 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tha_timinator


it's not a porn site, nonnude sites also get visitors right?

Why would they when I can find all these celebs with thier tits hanging out?

millionaire 10-02-2003 10:25 AM

Sign up to sponsors such as lightspeedcash or the like and link the thumbs on you site to their galleries / tours. I think tawnee stone and co would blend in well with your site. As said above, give your surfers some flesh in order that they might stick around.

My :2 cents:

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bugout
not misleading...

Well to start, the britney photo links at the top lead to evreything but her pics.. mirror1.. mirror2.. quite misleading if you ask me..

That pissed me off :Graucho .. i wonder how a surfer will feel

Fool them once, they dont come back.. They've been burned too much in the 2 years you've been gone.


well, about the thumbs -- i'm planning to clean them up, i want to show thumbs that are a thumb of that site's daily pic or thumbs that represent the site's content if it hasn't got a daily pic. so about them you've got a point.

about the blind link -- at first when i started the site the blind link wasn't there... but then i noticed low productivity and then i looked at some other sites in the niche and they all had at least a few blindlinks or links such as my thumbs (perms but the surfer thinks it's a pic). so i thought well why trying to be holier than the pope while all my colleagues are putting up these (semi-)blind links as well. and their traffic is kicking ass while mine simply won't really grow. then i decided to put up one blind link (the 'hot news' box.)
perhaps i should get rid of it again?

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Evil1


Why would they when I can find all these celebs with thier tits hanging out?


the problem is not that there are no people who like to visit my site (i've got bookmarkers and they grow by the day).

the problem is that an average visitor doesn't click enough links.
one thing i could do is replacing the current thumbs with nude celeb thumbs, but then they would even feel more fucked up, because no way that they can find that nude celeb at the other site...

Oracle Porn 10-02-2003 11:31 AM

your site sucks n00b11!1!

broke 10-02-2003 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
your site sucks n00b11!1!
:1orglaugh :thumbsup :1orglaugh

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oracle Porn
your site sucks n00b11!1!
uhh... yes thank you

Trent Edison 10-02-2003 12:55 PM

:sleep

plexer 10-02-2003 01:02 PM

:1orglaugh

caspuh 10-02-2003 01:04 PM

that britney spears tease is bullshit, i agree.

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 06:18 PM

guys i know i'm a n00b... i don't think my site sucks though :winkwink:

my productivity is the thing that sucks here.
and that's where i need your experience and opinions. please take a look at the site in my sig and tell me what might be causing the low productivity.

a few good things have already been mentioned:

- thumbs linking to trade partners: they have to be cleaned up. now they're pretty much blind links and when i use thumbs that reside on the site a surfer is sent to, they will be more satisfied.

- blind link at the top ('hot news' box) perhaps needs be removed, because it's pissing the surfers off. i'm not sure about this yet though, i'm seriously doubting if this is really gonna increase productivity, because i will miss all the click that are generated by the blind link now.

nobody mentioned a big issue yet; suggestions that could significantly increase mainpage's productivity...

Trent Edison 10-02-2003 06:22 PM

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iwantchixx 10-02-2003 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wildcard
my sites have 450%+ prod. icq me

That all? tehehehhe.

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trent Edison
<img src=http://www.gofuckyourself.com/images/smilies/new2/sleep.gif width=500 height=500>

man, if you think you're too good for this subject, just move ahead... if i would reply to every single thread that i think is boring, then i would have to start hiring right now.

MrIzzz 10-02-2003 06:26 PM

simplify your mainpage.....cut out all the bs and put more photolinks of the celebs.........try putting out actresses that have a movie out right now or something

Trent Edison 10-02-2003 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tha_timinator
man, if you think you're blah blah blah
Im relaxing!
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

JDog 10-02-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bugout
not misleading...

Well to start, the britney photo links at the top lead to evreything but her pics.. mirror1.. mirror2.. quite misleading if you ask me..

That pissed me off :Graucho .. i wonder how a surfer will feel

Fool them once, they dont come back.. They've been burned too much in the 2 years you've been gone.

Yea, never fool or mislead the surfer, I don't even put pop-ups on my sites :)

jDoG

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrIzzz
simplify your mainpage.....cut out all the bs and put more photolinks of the celebs.........try putting out actresses that have a movie out right now or something

so you're saying to remove all the content from my mainpage and add a bunch of blind thumb links?
so in fact i should increase the number of blind links instead of keeping it down?

JDog 10-02-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tha_timinator

- blind link at the top ('hot news' box) perhaps needs be removed, because it's pissing the surfers off. i'm not sure about this yet though, i'm seriously doubting if this is really gonna increase productivity, because i will miss all the click that are generated by the blind link now.

This isn't gonna increase productivity? YOUR main big box with the bigger thumbnails leads to a blind link! You clean your shit up and put that somewhere else maybe they'll click around, but right now, their not even check out your shit, because they see the britney and then they go to another site and get more interest with that site!

DUH

jDoG

MrIzzz 10-02-2003 06:35 PM

try checking out some of the other celeb sites.....actressarchives, ah-celebrities, etc... i like checking out the celeb stuff so i end up hitting the sites that have mass free content before i think sbout signing up

JDog 10-02-2003 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by tha_timinator



so you're saying to remove all the content from my mainpage and add a bunch of blind thumb links?
so in fact i should increase the number of blind links instead of keeping it down?

Dude, what the fuck! the more blind links you put up the less productivity you're gonna have, I have 3 total blink links on my site, then i have 29 galleries a day that is running 70% gallery then 30% to a trade!

jDOG

cluck 10-02-2003 06:37 PM

Circle Jerk is a dying art. Go with a CJ2 style site. Actually put a gallery with a few pics behind the thumbs with maybe a 50-70% skim and they *might* come back. You'll surely lose them if you don't update alot though. Try and get more than 100% productivity and feed a bunch of traffic through and it might take off. If you don't get bookmarkers at least you'll be getting a click or so per visitor on average. Alot won't click at all but some will click on a few thumbs if they see they'll get content out of it.

And when all else fails, hitbot. :Graucho

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


Yea, never fool or mislead the surfer, I don't even put pop-ups on my sites :)

jDoG



yeah that was my strategy when i started out, but i'm now starting to doubt whether i should stick to it since the productivity is so low.
when i cannot get the prod. up with this pretty clean site, i'm afraid i'll have to start messing with them surfers again in order to grow traffic. :(

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cluck
Circle Jerk is a dying art. Go with a CJ2 style site. Actually put a gallery with a few pics behind the thumbs with maybe a 50-70% skim and they *might* come back. You'll surely lose them if you don't update alot though. Try and get more than 100% productivity and feed a bunch of traffic through and it might take off. If you don't get bookmarkers at least you'll be getting a click or so per visitor on average. Alot won't click at all but some will click on a few thumbs if they see they'll get content out of it.

And when all else fails, hitbot. :Graucho


well, the content is there -- and daily refreshed so that should not be a big problem. also i *do* have bookmarkers and they're growing by the day. so i think that's all working fine.

the theory behind the current trade setup is that when visitors know they aren't messed with, then they're willing to check out some trade partners when they are done with my content for that day. i was hoping that this strategy would generate sufficient productivity. but since the overall prod. is not even 1 (100%), i'm thinking perhaps bitching with your surfers is the only way to really generate a decent productivity ?!?

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JDog


Dude, what the fuck! the more blind links you put up the less productivity you're gonna have, I have 3 total blink links on my site, then i have 29 galleries a day that is running 70% gallery then 30% to a trade!

jDOG



the more blind links you put up, the less productive your traffic will be at other sites, but i don't see why it would be low at yours as well? you can promise them about anything, so they see all incredible stuff so they'll click! right?

but actually what you're saying is:
1. the more blind links, the worse your traffic, so avoid blinds.
2. i have 3 permanent blind links and all my galleries are possibly blind links (when they are skimmed, surfers click because they want to see pics and then they're sent to another site, that 100% blind linking)

if blind links are so bad, why not stop skimming and put links to trade partners on top of your site?

BlackCrayon 10-02-2003 07:29 PM

the celeb niche has changed a lot...much harder to get traffic and very few quality sites to trade with, most employ mass blind links. not sure what to suggest to up productivity. are your trades sending shitty hits?

tha_timinator 10-02-2003 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlackCrayon
the celeb niche has changed a lot...much harder to get traffic and very few quality sites to trade with, most employ mass blind links. not sure what to suggest to up productivity. are your trades sending shitty hits?

well i don't think so, i've picked them all because they had at least a little bit of content and not too many blind links... some have a load of popups but as i grow i want to get rid of those annoying trades...
i would not know where to find better tradeable traffic for me at the moment...

plus a website i'm trading with (freesite/tgp) says he's got 200% productivity at his site, so at least that's a *lot* higher than mine. perhaps the fact that he has got gallery links which he skims has got something to do with it...


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