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slapass 09-19-2003 10:12 AM

Sueing a sponsor?
 
We are both US based so that helps but they are in a different city and it is for about 2k.

A. I fly there and go through small claims court (if they have one).

B. I have a collection agency I use but not keen on saying this porn site owes me money. And they take 40%.

C. Contact a lawyer in that town.

Anyone else ever done this and what is the best way to do it. Don't say ignore it as I am not built that way.

detoxed 09-19-2003 10:13 AM

You havent told the situation, but you would probably lose in court.

slapass 09-19-2003 10:14 AM

Well the situation is they owe me the money and they say they owe me the money so that part is pretty cut and dry.

wsjb78 09-19-2003 10:16 AM

What did you do that the sponsor won't pay?

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Rinaldo 09-19-2003 10:18 AM

that wont work... you'll lose in court... that " he said sh said shit" only works on TV like the people's court... apply to go on their.. they give each of you 2,000 and the loser uses that money to pay the winner... and they put you up there for a few days till they fit you in the filming schedule... a friend of mine went on there and asked me to go as a witness... the witnesses dont get paid though

gregtx 09-19-2003 10:18 AM

only one gonna win on that is the lawyer..

unless you represent yourself in small claims court...

Corleone 09-19-2003 10:22 AM

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slapass 09-19-2003 10:25 AM

Hitman is out. I would not look good in fire engine red lipstick trying to fight off my cell mate.

ok so this is a rare deal evidently.

TheSenator 09-19-2003 10:56 AM

ok...here it is

If you are going to sue, do not sue for $2000.00.

Sue for $50,000 and file all your papers in your county not their county.

The crime did not happen in their town it happen on the Internet.
So, basically you can file your claim anywhere in the U.S.

Make sure all your paper work is in order and have a lawyer who is familiar with the Internet and can understand Internet lingo.
Hammer away at least 10,000 pages of documents detailing eveything you ever did. Print out HTML code, C++ Code, Perl Code and anykind of code you can just keep writing shit down.

When he gets served with papers he will try to call you....whatever you do .....do not talk to him redirect him to your lawyer. At this point, he will be willing to settle out of court. Don't stop there keep on adding charges and negotiate through your lawyer.

This is an entry technique that is pretty reliable when dealing with scumbags who are cheap and don't pay.

Gemini 09-19-2003 11:03 AM

Contact the local DA as well as the State AG. See if there is a way they will work with you. Odds are the company shafted more than one which goes in your favor. At the very least, if you can back your claims there are odds they will send an investigator out and pull records if they feel the need.

slapass 09-19-2003 11:07 AM

cool that I can do it locally! Thanks for the help.

Kimmykim 09-19-2003 11:09 AM

You would need to read their TOS again carefullly before you file anything. If the terms specify a location for settling disputes (which most of them do) then it would do you no good whatsoever to file something outside of the jurisdiction.

NBDesign 09-19-2003 11:11 AM

Never done it to a sponsor.. but I have had to turn a client over to collections... what a fucking nightmare. 20% plus court fees if it goes that far... and it did.

So, now I am in a court battle with this client, it has been over a year since they went delinquent and my court date is not until December something.. all for 1700.00. But sometimes it's a matter of principle and not money.

slapass 09-19-2003 11:44 AM

What a pain in the butt this is. Thanks again for all the good info.

WiredGuy 09-19-2003 12:45 PM

Honestly, you're probably SOL.... read their terms and see if you're forced into a specific jurisdiction and more importantly, check the reason they gave for termination. Anything related to fraud or spam, they're the ones who hold all the evidence and they won't share it unless forced to go to court. But honestly, for an amount of 2k or so, I'd just absorb it and move on, it's not worth getting a lawyer but small claims court may be a route to go, I've never tried that.

WG

Johny Traffic 09-19-2003 12:51 PM

You have two choices.

Choice 1: listen to people on webmaster boards

Choice 2: Get proper advise from a real layer

Danny_C 09-19-2003 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johny Traffic
You have two choices.

Choice 1: listen to people on webmaster boards

Choice 2: Get proper advise from a real layer

What are you talking about? We're all attorneys here.

Johny Traffic 09-19-2003 01:07 PM

Quote:

What are you talking about? We're all attorneys here.
:Graucho you would think so wouldnt you :Graucho

TondaB 09-19-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johny Traffic
You have two choices.

Choice 1: listen to people on webmaster boards

Choice 2: Get proper advise from a real layer

A real layer is your best bet!

:thumbsup

EscortBiz 09-19-2003 01:46 PM

lawyer with adult industry experience, its a different ball game in many ways, take it from someone who collected over $500,000 bucks on behalf of webmasters

slapass 09-19-2003 01:50 PM

Of course I would do choice 2 hehe. But always nice to start moving with a plan based on some real life experience. I use some good attournies but I have also met crap ones and in this case I am likely to have as much info as he/she is.

WG thanks. I was not termed. I am still in good standing just not paid.

WiredGuy 09-19-2003 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
WG thanks. I was not termed. I am still in good standing just not paid.
That's odd, you just didn't get paid for one specific pay period or something? If you weren't terminated it just sounds like an accounting issue where contacting them would fix it.

WG

slapass 09-19-2003 01:54 PM

EB I wish you were single.
Looks like Jolie (I am hoping Angelina but who knows.)
Runs a succssful Program or several.
Had serious bucks in the market so probably still does.
Smart as hell.

and oh yeah way the fuck outta my league.

You have a name or number of that attourny?

slapass 09-19-2003 01:56 PM

ibe am a contact fiend. i used to a landlord and I still am in commercial so I am not shy about asking for my money.

TheSenator 09-19-2003 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
You would need to read their TOS again carefullly before you file anything. If the terms specify a location for settling disputes (which most of them do) then it would do you no good whatsoever to file something outside of the jurisdiction.
TOS are absolutely bullshit.

Even written contracts are bullshit.

You can dispute "TOS" in your hometown.

The TOS would have to be written absolutely perfect and witness by a person who verified you understood everything.

Just because the TOS says, "we hold the right to terminate without pay" can be disputed in your local court.


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