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KRL 09-18-2003 06:25 AM

American Indians Making Millions
 
Wow, these fuckers pull in $300 Mil a year.


IRS Targets Seminoles For Taxes


A federal grand jury is investigating whether the Seminole tribe failed to pay millions of dollars in taxes on its gambling windfall, and three regulatory agencies are examining a construction contract that could cost the tribe as much as $250 million over 10 years.

The Internal Revenue Service and the grand jury have been looking at about $120 million worth of gifts Seminole leaders gave to friends, relatives and other tribal members. Tribal leaders admittedly paid little or none of the federally required taxes on the gifts, which included luxury cars and cosmetic surgery.

At the same time, three federal agencies are raising questions about the tribe's 1999 contract to build its Coconut Creek casino, a deal regulators said is so lopsided against the Seminoles it might not be legal. In a series of letters, the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the National Indian Gaming Commission and the Interior Department said the contract, which calls for the tribe to pay up to $250 million for a building that cost no more than $16 million to construct, could be voided.

Attorney Joel Hirschhorn, representing new tribal Chairman Mitchell Cypress and advising the tribe, said the grand jury and Internal Revenue Service investigations have been going on for months. He said there was no intentional wrongdoing by the tribe, although he acknowledged it might have to pay a "substantial amount" in back taxes.

The inquiries come 10 months after an unrelated federal prosecution targeting former Seminole Chairman James Billie failed to bring any convictions. Billie was fired in March and replaced by Cypress, who is cooperating in the tax investigation, his lawyer said.

It is the latest in a series of legal skirmishes between the tribe and the federal government dating back to the early 1980s, when the Seminoles opened their first gambling halls. Billie, who was fired after the tribal council accused him of "gross misconduct," helped take the tribe from poverty to an empire making $300 million per year, but fought with state and federal agencies that repeatedly tried to shut down the casino operations.

Now, new tribal leaders are cooperating with prosecutors and even asked the government to investigate contracts and other deals made under Billie, according to a tribe lawyer and court records.

The grand jury began meeting about eight months ago, focusing on the spending habits of current tribal council members, some of whom admit they gave away tens of millions of dollars without paying taxes required by law.

Hirschhorn said tribal leaders were simply following the advice of previous lawyers and advisers. Last year, Councilman David Cypress said the same thing while testifying during an unrelated federal trial.

"They have a legitimate defense, that they were acting on good-faith advice of their counsel that they weren't liable for taxes," Hirschhorn said. "I don't necessarily agree with that advice. I think it was probably mistaken, but the tribe can't be blamed for that. I think in the end they may have to pay back taxes, maybe a lot of tax."

Spending revealed

The tax problems came to light because of the feud between current tribal leaders and Billie. Two years ago they suspended him and fired two associates, former chief executive officer Tim Cox and system analysts Dan Wisher. The tribe then sued the three, claiming they conspired to steal millions from the tribe.

That lawsuit, which is pending, became the basis for a federal indictment against Cox, Wisher and Michael Crumpton, who worked briefly under Wisher. U.S. District Judge William Dimitrouleas threw out the criminal case after ruling prosecutors failed to prove any money was stolen.

Before that happened, testimony and thousands of pages of court documents detailed extravagant spending sprees by all of the councilors except Billie, who records show spent little on himself and relatives. The money came from disbursements of $5 million to $10 million given annually to each of the tribal councilors, who then redistributed the funds to tribe members, relatives and friends.

The money was culled from the $300 million in profit the tribe makes each year from its casino operations.

Spending logs introduced at trial detailed gifts of breast implants and other cosmetic surgery, dozens of Lexuses, Mercedes Benzes and other luxury cars, and million-dollar payouts. Councilors admitted they sometimes exceeded their allowances and were given more money.

David Cypress testified he spent $57 million in about three years and complained that Billie and Cox wouldn't let him have any more money.

He also wrote checks to himself, relatives and friends totaling millions of dollars.

"I do not exclude myself from the benefits," David Cypress testified.

But he and other councilors exclude the Internal Revenue Service from the benefits, they said. By law, gifts of more than $10,000 annually are subject to federal income tax, to be paid by the giver.

Each Seminole man, woman and child -- no matter how young -- receives $3,000 per month from the tribe's gambling revenues, and all federal taxes are deducted immediately, much like payroll taxes. But tribal leaders dole out tens of millions of dollars to members as gifts, which must be paid by the presenter, according to the IRS and tax lawyers.

It is unclear how much taxes should have been paid. The grand jury and the Internal Revenue Service would have to determine how much was spent by each councilor and what their tax rates are, a complicated process, according to tax lawyers.

Whatever the outcome of its IRS problems, the tribe still must deal with the ramifications of its contract with Coconut Creek Gaming. The Bureau of Indian Affairs already has said the deal should be voided because of improprieties, and Dimitrouleas is presiding over the civil lawsuit between the tribe and the contractor.

That contract calls for the tribe to pay Coconut Creek Gaming 35 percent of its profits for 10 years -- estimated by both parties to be as much $250 million -- for building the casino. The contract put construction costs at $16 million.

Last year, the tribe stopped making its payments of nearly $2 million annually to Coconut Creek Gaming, and the two sides are suing each other in federal court.

"There are a lot of issues that the tribe is dealing with, and they are doing everything they can to straighten out the mess that's existed," Hirschhorn said. "The contract with Coconut Creek Gaming is way out of line, so we're working on that."

Federal agents are looking at an $8 million payment negotiated by Billie in 2000 to a company that tribal lawyers said in court papers had "no legitimate relationship" with the tribe or its casino operations. The payment was made in conjunction with the Coconut Creek Gaming deal, Billie has said.

Contract details

The tribe paid the money to Coconut Chips LLP "for consideration that is still unknown," according to a June letter to the tribe from the National Indian Gaming Commission. Lawyers for the tribe and the government said the company had no apparent function.

Billie told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel in February that the payment to Coconut Chips was made to pay for the land and to guarantee the casino was built.

The tribe claims Billie hid details of the contract from them, a charge he strongly denies.

"The tribe essentially asserts that it was misled by the contractor and Chairman James Billie," Penny Coleman, acting general counsel of the gaming commission, wrote in June to Seminole leaders. The tribe's claims are credible, she said, because they explain "why this Tribe would enter into agreements that appear on their face to be intended for the benefit of the contractor rather than the tribe."

Billie and his lawyer, Robert Saunooke, said in court papers that the entire tribal council knew about every aspect of the deal and voted unanimously for the project, including the payment to Coconut Chips.

The Interior Department and the gaming commission have said the contract is excessive and possibly illegal. The potential return on investment could be more than 2,000 percent, a figure so high that it might violate Florida's loan-sharking statutes, a lawyer for the gaming commission said in a court filing.

Saunooke contends Billie negotiated a "fantastic deal for the tribe." He noted that the Seminoles have pulled in more than $200 million in profit since the Coconut Creek casino opened in 2000, nearly five times original estimates by the tribe and the contractor. Coconut Creek Gaming received $58 million before the tribe stopped paying last year.

"It's easy now, in hindsight, to say it was a bad deal, but at the time it was just a vacant lot that was bringing in no money," Saunooke said. "You have to remember, Coconut Creek Gaming took all of the risk. If this casino didn't make money, they would have lost all of their investment."

Paul Filzer, a lawyer for Coconut Creek Gaming, said lawyers for the Interior Department and BIA don't understand the issues and are simply parroting the new tribal chairman's stance. Mitchell Cypress was elected the tribe's chairman in May, ending Billie's 23-year reign.

"They think that they entered into a bad deal, and now they are looking to back out," Filzer said. "The contract was legal, every single tribal council member signed onto it, and they are only complaining now because we're successful."

TheFLY 09-18-2003 06:30 AM

Time to squeeze out the little guy.

dchottie 09-18-2003 06:47 AM

It's amazing how much these Indian Casinos make. I have several friends that work in them and when i'm there visiting I see the security guards emptying the money which they do several times a night. There is always an amazing amount of money taken out of these machines. The shitty thing about it is the indian casinos here are largely unregulated and as a result they have no checks and balances on whether they are providing "fair" gaming or not. Judging by the looks of how much money people are shoving in these machines versus how many people you see excited over winning these casinos are not paying out many winnings at all.

KRL 09-18-2003 06:50 AM

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Originally posted by dchottie
It's amazing how much these Indian Casinos make. I have several friends that work in them and when i'm there visiting I see the security guards emptying the money which they do several times a night. There is always an amazing amount of money taken out of these machines. The shitty thing about it is the indian casinos here are largely unregulated and as a result they have no checks and balances on whether they are providing "fair" gaming or not. Judging by the looks of how much money people are shoving in these machines versus how many people you see excited over winning these casinos are not paying out many winnings at all.
I don't trust them either. I went to one of the tribe casino's and nobody was hitting anything on the slots. You could just hear the winning sounds weren't in sync with what you usually hear while you're playing.

:ak47:

Theo 09-18-2003 06:53 AM

they should tax webfather as well because i just noticed he owns indiancasino.com

KRL 09-18-2003 07:02 AM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
they should tax webfather as well because i just noticed he owns indiancasino.com
Yeh, Rick has some incredible gaming domains.

crockett 09-18-2003 07:06 AM

I didn't think the feds could tax Indians... you know that whole thing about us wipeing them out and taking all their land..

KRL 09-18-2003 07:07 AM

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Originally posted by crockett
I didn't think the feds could tax Indians... you know that whole thing about us wipeing them out and taking all their land..
What they're saying is the tribe leaders were doing huge money gifts and deals to hide money with non-Indians I think.

dchottie 09-18-2003 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by KRL


I don't trust them either. I went to one of the tribe casino's and nobody was hitting anything on the slots. You could just hear the winning sounds weren't in sync with what you usually hear while you're playing.

:ak47:

You're absolutely right and the largest payouts on the machine are virtually nothing. I think the largest payout even for the jackpot is like $2500 and you rarely hear about anyone winning that. When the Indian Casinos first got started out here and there weren't very many people playing I would go in and ask my friend about the machines that dropped the pull tabs. Each machine held a roll of pull tabs. On each roll there were 7500 tabs, each roll contained x amount of winners on the payouts. I would go in and stick a buck in one and read the serial number on the ticket and see where they were in the roll. I would then ask my friend when the roll had been changed last and when the last winner of the larger amounts had been. I would then calculate how many tabs were left on the roll and determine if it was worth putting more money in. This sytem worked pretty well for about two months. I think I ended up winning just shy of 20,000 in those two months but when more people started playing it became harder to guage because they added more machines and it was harder to keep track of which ones had been won on.

I do think that the Indian Casinos are doing something that other casinos really should do. They have players cards and you can move from machine to machine with your credits on the card. You can switch between different types of machines and different denominations. I am more likely to set and play longer and spend more money when it's on this card. When i'm on a regular casino machine and I hit a bunch of money or want to change and have to go through the headache of cashing out my machine and then going to cash in the coins i'm less likely to return to a machine. If you're like me you like to go from machine to machine and give each one a few spins to see how they're doing and i'm not going to hassle with dropping several hundred coins each time and either walking around with the cups of coins or locating the nearest teller to cash them in and then walk all the way back. I realize that the lure of the slots is the sound of the dropping coins for most people and that's the theory they base it on but why not offer an either/or situation where people can drop or keep it on their card.


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