Who watched the Democrats debate
 

and what are your thoughts about the contenders??

Nobody did I'm sure...that's why some shit needs to happen FAST or we're stuck with that bumbling idiot another 4 years

Kerry, getting a lil better but you gotta check his statements for consistency from month to month like any good politician

Gep, has some decent philosophy, but needs better packaging

Dean, beating up on Bush is popular, and is fairly packaged for this deal, but not sure if he's got what it takes to pull off the election


...the rest, who are they again?


oh yeh, I do like Reverend PimpDaddy Sharpton with the sporty doo, he's funny and makes me laugh sometimes...

...I was waiting for him to get off the stage and bitch slap some people...



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I watched it.

Al Sharpton rules, the rest are typical boring, monotonic, no life, clones of each other.

I don't i think as the rest of us

Huh??

My thoughts are that they all are mediocre political hacks...with the exception of Sharpton and he isn't even that.

Draft General Clark

http://www.draftwesleyclark.com/

sorry didn't see it..

Didn't see all of it, but I think the state of the democrats is up in the air at this point. Dean is clearly the most popular, but I honestly don't think he can give Bush a run for his money right now.

If Gore comes in I think he's got a good shot, especially if Bush keeps fucking things up the way he has been. People are getting more and more fed up with his Iraq bullshit. They were already doubting his decisions in Iraq after months with no real results, but now it's clear that there is no plan set up. The asking for $87 billion dollars pretty much pushed all the non-bible thumping bush followers over the edge.

Now what Bush really needs to do is say fuck Iraq and go after Iran. The only way people will keep supporting him is if they actually buy into his "another country's out to get us" bullshit.

I watched it.

It just wasn't the same without Hillary, though. :(

Didn't see the debate, but I finally got around to registering to vote a few days ago. I was registered in FL, just never got around to it since I moved here.

God Bless America :)

and then i said i then.

I would rather think about getting some NOOKIE..


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You seem to have your mind on sex quite alot lately.:Graucho Have your worn the poor hubby down?

I watched it.. here it is in concise form..

on any questions related to national security and the war on terrorism... Unjust war, and Bush making Haliburton rich, turn it over to the UN.

on how to improve the economy.... tac cuts for the rich don't work and universal health care will cure all

on what we can do for black people... give them more money, affirmative action programs, and don't put them in jail for drugs.

That about sums up the three lines of questioning and the answers!!

hahahaha



tumor= NO sex

I saw it, would have liked to have been able to hear the lunatics in the audience better

Only question asked and answered that was not bullshit, was "what is your favorite song?" with Dean actually answering the question honestly instead of picking some song with a catchy campaign slogan titlle.

I guess the lunatics ran off Marie Shiver today in Sacto when she was promoting old Arnold..

so they do good as well as evil, I guess I like them better now

Uh-Oh....has he had the MRI?

Yes, he has to call tomorrow for the results. The lab result phone was full today...


They better fix him up good or I am getting another boyfriend..
This shit been going on for most of our marriage..

Aparently, his pituitary gland should been checked in the last 80's when he found out he had a throid problem..

I think I need to get some legal advice and go after a few doctors..


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Well it will not do any harm to investigate the matter...but I seriously doubt medical records exist that far back (unless you made copies at the time and kept them which is what I now do). Unless they have made new law...medical records are only kept for either 5 or 7 years. I hope all turns out OK for you and for him.

I wonder how long it was for holding them..

I think he had copies of his records sent between the different doctors..There's about 3 men doctors and a male nurse that need atleast a medical complaint against..

Since he has 40 percent bone loss, it's a bit obvious the first doctor fucked up..

Fucking Hannity of Hannity and Colmes is a joke.

kinda like three monkies fucking a football if ya know what i mean.

Colin did you watch the debate and have any thoughts that you care to share?

they shouldnt of called that a debate
it was a bunch of losers bashing bush hoping for a laugh or applause. they are nothing but a joke

I personally do not think that allowing only one minute answers allows room for a true debate. They should be allowed at least...up to five minute answers...so that they not only can answer the moderator's questions but respond to other candidates answers.

yeah, id be nice if they did that. instead they use their entire time to talk about how bush "lied" and needs to be removed and how they are so much better than he. then they goto the next idiot who says the same thing worded differently. if they actually debated something, i wouldnt mind so much.

all politicians are full of shit. Watching that was like listening to that Berman guy from acacia. Its just total spin.

No, I didn't see it.

I think the best strategy is to be aggressive and bash Bush. Come election time, the Democrats will face an aggressive
Karl Rove. I wonder if the Democrats will be able to find someone as good as Carville. Rove is going to be 4 years better. Something to keep in mind.

Usually, the better strategy for the trailing party is to sling mud.
Usually, you lose some of your own votes but gain more of your opponents. Not as good for the leading party as they have more votes to lose.

Side note. I'm in South Florida. I've received a call from the Republicans already this year and not the Democrats. They are looking for money and also looking to influence voters with a questionnaire that asks leading questions and commits one to a Republican view.

Don't know if this is random or indicative.

It's the best strategy for them.

1. They need their Democratic base to go out and vote. Scaring people about Bush will accomplish that.

2. They need to swing the middle of the road voters. By creating doubts about Bush's honesty and integrity they may weaken Bush's standing among the non-commited voters.

Democrats are not going to get many votes from the die-hard Republicans. They don't need to pander to the already committed Republican votes.

Well...it is a motely crew of contenders...in my opinion...but which ever one gets the nomination...if the Democrats will only come out in mass to vote...Bush will be defeated as there are more Democrats than there are Republicans...and after seeing the results of the last election maybe they will turn out this time around.

about the only one that was half way honest was liberman. When a jew is the most honest guy thats not a good sign.


Its just a difference of philosophy. If any democrat got in it would be : slash the military fbi cia, create a bunch of inefficient socialistic programs, create a bunch of 6 dollar an hour jobs, take a total hands off approach to foreign policy.

If thats what you want, more power to you.

The miltary has been slashed to the bone as it is...more than a million men over the past few years...and it is proving to have been a mistake. Actually it first began with Bush Sr. and continued through the Clinton years.

theking,

Do you have numbers or a reference on that? I always thought the numbers were basically:

Republicans. 25%
Democrats. 25%
Undecided. 50%

Not even sure where I picked that up from. Would be nice if there was a gallup poll or something similar where people are called at random. Registered voters count would be pretty good too.

Not off hand...but I do know the Democrats in years gone by overwhemingly out numbered Republicans...and in recent years the gap is being narrowed.

You may be able to find the information here. I just do not feel like researching it.

http://www.census.gov/

Here's one.

Year 2000.
Democrat. 50%.
Republican. 37%.
Independent. 12%.
Apolitical. 1%.

Strong Democrat: 19%
Weak Democrat: 15%
Independent Democrat: 15%
Independent: 12%
Independent Republican: 13%
Weak Republican: 12%
Strong Republican: 12%
Apolitical: 1%

From: http://www.umich.edu/~nes/nesguide/toptable/tab2a_2.htm
http://www.umich.edu/~nes/nesguide/toptable/tab2a_1.htm

I wonder what it looks like per-electoral vote. What are the demographics for the more populous states?

Kucinich was good, and was the only person on the stage who was completely unapologetic about being a liberal.

Once again...you may be able to find that information on the link to the census burea.

California is Democrats...do not know off hand about the others...but I suspect most if not all are Democrats.

some of you guys really crack me up . . . . do you make this stuff up as you go along?

True but Clinton Destroyed it..

i just think it will be interesting to see what happens in FL this time around.

but more than you'd imagine, I know a good few previous die-hard republicans that are voting for anyone BUT Bush this time around...

when you erode civil liberties and 'woops' a little on details in regards to finishing up the war that daddy didn't do, it's easy to turn some of your more moderate Republicans...

oh and the economy needs a lil fixing beyond his one great concept of tax cuts...

hell he even fired his original picks for his economic team...if everything is going so well, then why'd he do that?

WHO CARES???

I watched the debate, here are my thoughts...

Dean - By far not at his best, but he was the only candidate in the debate who did not try to make any jokes, he was serious about what he was talking about and kept the Bush-bashing to a minimum. All the other candidates were taking jabs at him the whole night, he was only given the opportunity to rebute against Lieberman, and did it so well that it left Lieberman babbling like a fool. (Lieberman btw, misquoted the article that he was trying to burn Dean on). Was not very charismatic during the debate, must've put the tie on too tightly.

Lieberman - Is this guy even in the Democratic party? Seems to be a Bush nuthugger to me. And how about that really low blow to Dean with the "Bush Recession, Dean Depression" line... everyone in the crowd I was in boo'd, so did the people at the debate. I pray that this bastard doesn't get the nomination.

Gephardt - I've never seen him so vigorous before, looks like he is taking a page from Howard Dean (I even heard him use some of the exact stuff Dean uses in his stump speeches). Not a bad showing though. Started to get annoyed by his overuse of "This president is a miserable failure". It was great the first time, but after the 3rd, it lost it's effect.

Kerry - As I call him "Lurch", the guy is boring. He was pretty standard in the debate. Don't see why he is a frontrunner at all.

Kucinich - Not afraid to be a liberal, went all out during the debate regarding NAFTA, etc. Really lost it big when he attacked Dean though; the attack was going okay til he ended it with a Valley Girl "HELLOO?!"; Everyone laughed at him, not with him.

Mosely-Braun - Intelligent woman, not her time though, not against Bush. I love her single payer health care plan.

Graham - Was he even in this debate? Had like 2 questions the whole night.

Edwards - Charismatic, but he never actually said anything in the debate, just squandered his time with personal stories.

Specifically what do you think is made up?