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Zappu 08-30-2003 01:55 AM

Fighting Acacia
 
I can not find the thread by Spike any longer, regarding the FAQ but anyhow. I just discussed yetserday the patent issue with some webmasters in Germany and during our discussion I remembered that the IMPAI is looking for some BBS files to proof that the delivering of compressed video and/or audio were already in place before 1991.

In Germany we had a different system in paralel to the old BBS. This System, BTX were driven by the German Telekom and it had allowed downloads, movies, chat's etc. Maybe this will be also a good point to search for while fighting this patent.
A system like the BTX were and is also available in France, called Minitel. As far as I know this system is still running and is driven by the France Telecom.

foolio 08-30-2003 02:00 AM

fight the power dude!

http://www.mtv-china.com/avzone/phot..._the_power.jpg

and make sure you tell them they can't touch this!

http://www.mtv-china.com/avzone/phot...touch_this.jpg

sexeducation 08-30-2003 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Zappu
I can not find the thread by Spike any longer, regarding the FAQ but anyhow. I just discussed yetserday the patent issue with some webmasters in Germany and during our discussion I remembered that the IMPAI is looking for some BBS files to proof that the delivering of compressed video and/or audio were already in place before 1991.

In Germany we had a different system in paralel to the old BBS. This System, BTX were driven by the German Telekom and it had allowed downloads, movies, chat's etc. Maybe this will be also a good point to search for while fighting this patent.
A system like the BTX were and is also available in France, called Minitel. As far as I know this system is still running and is driven by the France Telecom.

Also FightThisPatent.com seems to have died off this board.
Go to Imai.org and let Homegrown know.

If you find that thread - bump it.
As I wanted to ask - does the compression technology of those new "picture" phones violate ACACIA patents...

venturi 08-30-2003 02:40 AM

Zappu, try these links:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...highlight=IMPA

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/search...der=descending

That'll give you a good head start. I've got Spike's contact info somewhere but I can't remember what IRC log it's stuffed in atm. If you can't find what you need I'll see if I can dig it up.

Sexeducation, why won't you go away? :ak47:

sexeducation 08-30-2003 02:44 AM

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Originally posted by venturi
Zappu, try these links:

...TEXT DELETED ...

Sexeducation, why won't you go away? :ak47:

I will go away when Female Genital Mutilation is history.

I will go away when the Adult Industry stops implying that vaginal orgasm exists - when if fact it is a LIE!

When homepages on any domain stop showing aroused genitals and reproductive fluids ...

list continues ...
grow up

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I will go away when Female Genital Mutilation is history.

I will go away when the Adult Industry stops implying that vaginal orgasm exists - when if fact it is a LIE!

When homepages on any domain stop showing aroused genitals and reproductive fluids ...

list continues ...
grow up

what the hell?

xenigo 08-30-2003 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


what the hell?

Yeah, he's insane. Go figure...

sexeducation 08-30-2003 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy


what the hell?

What are you confused about?

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenigo


Yeah, he's insane. Go figure...

heh, I think I missed a meeting around here or something.

sexeducation 08-30-2003 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xenigo


Yeah, he's insane. Go figure...

Why do you think I am insane?
spit it out ...specifically

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


What are you confused about?

I will go away when the Adult Industry stops implying that vaginal orgasm exists - when if fact it is a LIE!

When homepages on any domain stop showing aroused genitals and reproductive fluids ...

it sounds like you are the confused one. whats the problem with aroused genitals?

venturi 08-30-2003 03:01 AM

Sorry folks, that was an off-topic retort that's been building up for months now to pedophile boy. Should have bit my tongue as this thread will likely be attempted to be hijacked by dipshit. :(

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:01 AM

is this some issue with you not being able to pleasure a woman enough to make her orgasm vaginally or?

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by venturi
Sorry folks, that was an off-topic retort that's been building up for months now to pedophile boy. Should have bit my tongue as this thread will likely be attempted to be hijacked by dipshit. :(
pedo? man.. bah.. I've missed the drama.. what did he do?

quiet 08-30-2003 03:05 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


pedo? man.. bah.. I've missed the drama.. what did he do?

the guy is beyond creepy.

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy


it sounds like you are the confused one. whats the problem with aroused genitals?

I will educate you ...
I have been banned by almost every webmaster board I have been on ...except GFY ...

The problem with showing aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on ANY directly accessed domain ... is that it is a violation of the majority of the world (children) to reasonable interent access.

Take your FUCKING CRAP off your homepage or ...
risk litigation ...
visa termination and more ...
OR get the fuck out of the business ...


[was this terminology plain enough?]

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I will educate you ...
I have been banned by almost every webmaster board I have been on ...except GFY ...

The problem with showing aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on ANY directly accessed domain ... is that it is a violation of the majority of the world (children) to reasonable interent access.

Take your FUCKING CRAP off your homepage or ...
risk litigation ...
visa termination and more ...
OR get the fuck out of the business ...


[was this terminology plain enough?]

so whats the problem with them?

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy


so whats the problem with them?

Let me ask you ...

Do you think it is reasonable to show a person who is not yet reproductively capable - hard on's and cum shots?

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by quiet


the guy is beyond creepy.

insane and creepy? I've found a long thread on him - what is he doing here if he isn't an adult webmaster? should I give up now? did he actually have cp on his site?

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by bhutocracy


pedo? man.. bah.. I've missed the drama.. what did he do?

read for yourself ...
the thread is titled "SexEducation.com" ...
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...postid=2252548

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Let me ask you ...

Do you think it is reasonable to show a person who is not yet reproductively capable - hard on's and cum shots?


why not? I thought you wanted to educate them about sex? anyways why is a kid going to analhardcore.com in the first place? I saw porn before I was reproductively capable.. in fact im sure most people did.. so? its the human body. Kids shouldn't be forcably exposed to it but any parent that lets their underage kids roam around the internet by themselves deserves the weird questions they're going to start getting.

venturi 08-30-2003 03:19 AM

Hey Mr. LetsStayOnTopic Guy: Shut the FUCK Up!

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy



why not? I thought you wanted to educate them about sex? anyways why is a kid going to analhardcore.com in the first place? I saw porn before I was reproductively capable.. in fact im sure most people did.. so? its the human body. Kids shouldn't be forcably exposed to it but any parent that lets their underage kids roam around the internet by themselves deserves the weird questions they're going to start getting.

Exactly - why - WHITEHOUSE.COM needed to change ..

They go to "somefuckingbullshit.com" because of pop-ups and chat bots, etc etc

Gaming sites that show XXX hardcore ...
come on grow up ...
it's the BILLION dollar sex internet ....

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


Exactly - why - WHITEHOUSE.COM needed to change ..

but there are no aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on it's directly accessed domain


..

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by venturi
Hey Mr. LetsStayOnTopic Guy: Shut the FUCK Up!
you're right - sorry ...
wrong thread ...
I appologize ..
this topic not responded to in this thread ...
sorry

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy


but there are no aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on it's directly accessed domain


..

start a new thread so we can respect the topic poster of this thread and I will respond ...

xenigo 08-30-2003 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I will educate you ...
I have been banned by almost every webmaster board I have been on ...except GFY ...

The problem with showing aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on ANY directly accessed domain ... is that it is a violation of the majority of the world (children) to reasonable interent access.

Take your FUCKING CRAP off your homepage or ...
risk litigation ...
visa termination and more ...
OR get the fuck out of the business ...


[was this terminology plain enough?]



Yup, completely insane.

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:39 AM

Start the thread ...????
Call it "Aroused Genitals on your Homepage" or something or no response in this thread ...

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:42 AM

pinned

bhutocracy 08-30-2003 03:48 AM

the desire to catch up on drama and fuck with people is gone..
the time for sleep has arrived.

sexeducation 08-30-2003 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy
the desire to catch up on drama and fuck with people is gone..
the time for sleep has arrived.

the NEED for sleep has arrived ...
it should happen soon after these BLT sandwiches ..

sexeducation 08-30-2003 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bhutocracy


but there are no aroused genital or reproductive bodily fluids on it's directly accessed domain [ whitehouse.com ]


..

... because of people like me ..

FightThisPatent 08-30-2003 06:14 AM

....and now back to our regulary scheduled program.......


Prior art of digitized audio or video files needs to be be prior to 1990 in order to be a possible candidate to invalidate the patent.

Also, proof that the file was available and distributed prior to 1990 is needed (ie. BBS/FTP logs, testimony to verify the validity, etc).

Fight The Patent!

Que? 08-30-2003 06:58 AM

Just dont pay up.

Wear out their funds.

They got hold by lacecontent by court order and he(DavidL) set up shop on a new domain. They cant pay that many bills and shareholder dividends with domain names....

Let them spend millions chasing pennies.

FightThisPatent 08-30-2003 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Que?

Let them spend millions chasing pennies.


The problem is that they have 4,000,000,000 pennies to spend just to prove their :2 cents:

Far-L 08-30-2003 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Que?
Just dont pay up.

Wear out their funds.

They got hold by lacecontent by court order and he(DavidL) set up shop on a new domain. They cant pay that many bills and shareholder dividends with domain names....

Let them spend millions chasing pennies.

I do not think this is a wise way of dealing with this and I do not recommend it to anyone that cares about his/her business.

The consequences of such actions are not pleasant and if a person thinks that a simple domain change is going to make a difference then you are totally mistaken.

I am not an attorney and this is just my opinion, but I am pretty sure that the individuals that are responsible for doing what Lace's site did could be held personally liable for such actions. In my mind, actions like that could be construed as willful infringement. If that is the case, it could mean huge fines PLUS other damages.

We can show why we do not validate the patent. We can invalidate the patent. We can license. We cannot run and play hide and seek because Acacia is not playing games and this is a serious LEGAL matter.

FightThisPatent 08-31-2003 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L



We can show why we do not validate the patent. We can invalidate the patent. We can license. We cannot run and play hide and seek because Acacia is not playing games and this is a serious LEGAL matter.



Webmasters need to get informed over these patent abuse cases. An AVN poll shows 80% don't care or don't know about these issues. This is especially true if you get one of those "information packets" that describes your infringement upon their patents.

I added a humorous article titled: Acacia?s Patent Claims invention of Teleportation

While the article pokes some fun at Acacia, it does help to illustrate how patents can be worded very broadly and able to be INTERPRETED so wildly.

Fight The Patent!

NBDesign 08-31-2003 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sexeducation


I will go away when Female Genital Mutilation is history.

I will go away when the Adult Industry stops implying that vaginal orgasm exists - when if fact it is a LIE!

When homepages on any domain stop showing aroused genitals and reproductive fluids ...

list continues ...
grow up

Can't you just go away now and do us all a favor? :1orglaugh

FightThisPatent 09-02-2003 05:35 PM

AVN Online has an article on my website:

http://www.avnonline.com/issues/2003...090203_4.shtml


[checking my watch] let the 15 minutes of fame begin...


Fight The Patent!

Rochard 09-02-2003 05:56 PM

I think it's such a wonderful idea to be discussing all of this on a public board that Acacia obviously reads.

stevecore 09-02-2003 06:02 PM

hey sexeducation... why is there C.P. links on your site?

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didn't click on the three related CP links but apparently whoever was looking was successful in finding this filth on your site.

FightThisPatent 09-02-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard
I think it's such a wonderful idea to be discussing all of this on a public board that Acacia obviously reads.

Of course Acacia is reading this board, they are also reading my website.

THere is nothing presented on this board that helps Acacia out, other than the generated awareness puts them in a negative light... but, they don't care about being judged by the public, just being judged in a court of law.

As long as people aren't posting leads to prior art, it's all good.

FightThisPatent 09-02-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevecore
hey sexeducation... why is there C.P. links on your site?




please take this topic somewhere else... hotel room, back alley, wherever, it's off topic.


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