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FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 10:26 AM

>> Another Acacia-type company to worry about
 
USA Video has a patent that pre-dates Acacia's patents.

They are claiming the ownership to the process of downloading videos from a (web) server.

USA Video is suing MovieLink.com for patent infringement.

USA Video becomes the THIRD company that FightThePatent.com is tracking.

Imagine the absurd situation that Acacias wins their patent lawsuits and websites are forced to pay their "licensing fees".

USA Video could easily roll through and demand similar "license fees".

USA Video information is being tracked at: http://www.fightthepatent.com/USVO.html

The "Interview with the Vampire" article should be fun reading.


Fight The Patent!

Gemini 08-24-2003 10:32 AM

The more, the merrier... :winkwink:

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
The more, the merrier... :winkwink:

ya, if you were a lawyer :feels-hot

FATPad 08-24-2003 10:45 AM

I better get in on this patent thing.

I will be patenting a process of marking the hard drive space occupied by lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures as unused, allowing the hard drive space to be reused by other applications and files, including but not limited to other lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures.

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad
I better get in on this patent thing.

I will be patenting a process of marking the hard drive space occupied by lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures as unused, allowing the hard drive space to be reused by other applications and files, including but not limited to other lossy compressed graphics, images, and pictures.




sorry, the Simpsons already patented that :BangBang:

Ketadream 08-24-2003 10:54 AM

Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ketadream
Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

ya, but then you will have to probably pay music royalties to the owner of the song:

You are a Zero, and I'm not the One.

Written by the Bit Tones back in like 1969




:Graucho

Gemini 08-24-2003 11:02 AM

ya, if you were a lawyer :feels-hot


:Graucho :1orglaugh

Young huh?

Ketadream 08-24-2003 11:03 AM

Nice find on the Bit Tones :)

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
ya, if you were a lawyer :feels-hot


:Graucho :1orglaugh

Young huh?



old enough to know better, dude.

:ak47:

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ketadream
Nice find on the Bit Tones :)
If your 0's and 1's claim was before 1969, I'd be willing to start Fight-The-O-and-1.com and start bringing awareness to this issue.

:Graucho

Gemini 08-24-2003 11:20 AM

old enough to know ...


Obviously NOT! :glugglug

... 08-24-2003 11:34 AM

Their stock is worth 7.5 cents...

SkyWalker 08-24-2003 11:36 AM

vultures are circling

Rich 08-24-2003 12:21 PM

WTF is MovieLink.com? I'm in Canada, when I go to that page I get this:

"Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers, but it is presently unavailable to users outside of the United States."

<IMX> 08-24-2003 12:31 PM

I'm surprised the RIAA/MPAA hasn't purchased ACACIA to sue Kazaa & co.

er...maybe they are in negotiations?

Giorgio_Xo 08-24-2003 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FightThisPatent





sorry, the Simpsons already patented that :BangBang:

Good South Park reference...


BUTTERS...

Centurion 08-24-2003 12:52 PM

Has anyone taken on Acacia (or any of the others) in court and WON? I keep waiting to see some sort of info on that but haven't seen on post that talks about winning against Acacia. One big win would really set a great precedent for any future cases down the line.

Anyone know? Anyone?

Gemini 08-24-2003 01:12 PM

Centurion, this isn't a case of grab attorney and go have at it. It's a patent challenge. To the finish. It takes time and a LOT of hearings, motions and all that goobledy goop. It could drag out for a verrrry long time. Appeals and all of that included. So don't plan on a answer sometime next week.

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...

Centurion 08-24-2003 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini
Centurion, this isn't a case of grab attorney and go have at it. It's a patent challenge. To the finish. It takes time and a LOT of hearings, motions and all that goobledy goop. It could drag out for a verrrry long time. Appeals and all of that included. So don't plan on a answer sometime next week.

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...

Ok..thanks for the info. But it does seem eventually SOMEONE is going to have to take the plunge..no matter how long it takes.
Seems like Acacia has been winning because the other side settles, or doesn't show up for the court case. (Pretty sure I've read threads about that).

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
WTF is MovieLink.com? I'm in Canada, when I go to that page I get this:

"Thank you for your interest in Movielink. We want you to take part in the powerful Internet movie rental experience that Movielink delivers, but it is presently unavailable to users outside of the United States."


Movielink.com is backed by the 5 movie studios. Maybe they don't allow access to canada due to the encryption (DRM) methods used, etc...

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by <IMX>
I'm surprised the RIAA/MPAA hasn't purchased ACACIA to sue Kazaa & co.

er...maybe they are in negotiations?


You bring up a good point..... some of these patents could be used to get Sharman (sp?) networks into court.

They seem to have dodged the legal issues since their kazaa network could be used for legitimate purposes (ie. reference betamax case).

But, one of these patents could be used to get them into court, get discovery info, and tie then up in litigation.. would be like nailing Al Capone for taxes as the way to get him.

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gemini

And the more info people post out 'finds' for them to read and prepare to defend against the harder it will be. As well meaning as it might be done...



I agree....... forward any leads you have either to the IMPAI.org website or to me.

It can hurt the defense case if leads and prior art info were released. It is true that through discovery, the defense has to hand over their information, but until then, should be kept quite.

High Quality 08-24-2003 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ketadream
Hahaha! As some may know I am a musician as well...

I have copyrights to the songs "0" and "1".....

I know own ALL DATA!!!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!

I will be starting by sueing Acacia...

Haha, this is fucking clever... :thumbsup

sumphatpimp 08-24-2003 06:44 PM

they keep this shit up and they will wake Al Gore.

He invented the internet, (ask him, he'll tell you )

and then their will be hell to pay.

Carrie 08-24-2003 07:07 PM

Umm, excuse me for interrupting, but umm...
if their patent pre-dates Acacia's and addresses downloading video from a server...
wouldn't that invalidate Acacia's patent?

FightThisPatent 08-24-2003 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Carrie
Umm, excuse me for interrupting, but umm...
if their patent pre-dates Acacia's and addresses downloading video from a server...
wouldn't that invalidate Acacia's patent?




At first glance, it could seem that way... but i am sure the Acacia attorneys did their research and would have found this USA Video patent, and probably deemed it to not be the prior art to refute their patents.

The language and the interpretation of a patent is tricky, and it alll comes down to the court to hear both sides and determine the outcome.

The more you learn about this patent stuff, the more disheartening it becomes to see that people are not inventing things, they are just repackaging what they saw, patenting it, then try to make a quick buck without even having to make a product and standing by that product.

KRL 08-24-2003 08:19 PM

http://www.cybercom.net/~tonyk/smileys/frown3.gif

FightThisPatent 08-25-2003 06:54 AM

Don't forget, there is also SightSound, making a total of THREE companies that are in the space of patent (abuse) infringement cases... all of which are applicable to websites who have audio/video content.

FightThisPatent 08-25-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sumphatpimp
they keep this shit up and they will wake Al Gore.



how can you tell if he is awake?

FightThisPatent 08-25-2003 07:23 PM

Ripped from Fuckedcompany.com:

As if every dot-com idiot on the planet trying to patent the Internet was not bad enough, now Abercrombie & Fitch claims they own the number "22".


http://www.newsday.com/business/nati...ness-headlines

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As if the patent abuse cases weren't silly enough, you see this kind of stuff going on.


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