is it worth to build TGP2 galleries?
 

is the tgp2 movement already dead? is it growing? is it stuck?

Thanks for your input

anyone?

I will launch a tgp2 next week.. I won't accept submissions though. Just thought I'd let you know.:)

I post the odd TGP2 gallery, and while they don't get much traffic, the traffic seems to convert well, especially the SE traffic once a gallery hits Google. Optimize for SE and make sure you take advantage of the relaxed rules re advertising.

YES!

TGP2 is alive and kickin'. When I build TGP2 galleries I submit to the gallery pool only and as long as you use niches that aren't over-saturated like teen and blowjob you should get some good signups. Plus, like cath said, you can get Google traffic and other SE traffic later.

TGP2 is still alive - calling it kicking is being a bit more optomistic than factual. My personal results over the last several months have been very disappointing, to say the least. Yes, the gallery pool does kick out some hits, but the glut of sites drawing exclusively from the pool has really cut into the traffic to galleries that I received just six months ago.

Wouldn't this glut of sites drawing their gallery links from the pool add more traffic into the whole TGP2 gallery pool?

It has certainly not worked out that way for me. My traffic to galleries is down considerably compared to what it was at the first of the year, when I still had a reasonably healthy list of sites that accepted my gallery submissions on a regular (or partner) basis. I still get good hits from the places I am a partner on, and from the pool - it's simply that there is much less of it.

I do get traffic from the pool, and I make sales from those galleries. Unfortunately, the increase I've seen in hits to the gallery I submit to the pool does not equal the hits I've lost from other places. I can't say that increased reliance on the pool for gallery listings is completely responsible for that; all I know is that gallery submission is not now as profitable for me as it once was.

google is full of tgp2 galleries - fuck you just need to rethink your tgp2 strategy and link the shit together - google loves tgp2 - it is keyword relevant.

The last time I looked into TGP2 it seemed like it was just about dead. How many TGP2 galleries do you think you have to have in the pool to generate something really modest (say, 2 signups/week)?

With regular TGPs the traffic is shit but the volume is good so you can be doing 1-2 signups/day with a single gallery submitted daily to just a few places as long as you have the patience to keep up the submissions and wait for the listings to kick in. Is it possible to maintain even a modest amount of signups like that with TGP2?

I'm a little bit out of the TGP loop, these days, but I'm interested in TGP2.

SpaceAce

What is the difference between TGP and TGP2... Ok this may sound like a stupid newbie question... but they both look alike to me...

current tgp2 rules:
only 5 pics, not more, not less.
big pics can be on .html pages with 1 banner and/or 1 textlink.
in general more advertising allowed on the gallery.

I think the biggest problem tgp2 has is that there are nearly no galleries to build up a tgp2 to bring some steady traffic into the circel. There are common niches in the pool that aren't getting a single gallery submitted for weeks.
If tgp gallery builders would simply making tgp2 galleries from their tgp galleries (by just deleting 10 free pics to meet the 5 pic max requirement) and submitting them steady to the pool there would be at least a chance to bring tgp2 to real life.

Indeed, but why would they? There's no traffic, I wouldn't waste 10 minutes changing/submitting a gallery there, unless it was worth it... now, tgp2 isn't. Vicious circle, ain't it?

Yes, a vicious circle. But don't forget that changing a tgp gallery over to tgp2 + submitting it to the pool will only take around two minutes per gallery (if you don't fall asleep) and that the tgp2 idea is the best idea to bring back a normal balance between free stuff and paysites and to increase the conversion ratios back to a level where they should be.

Traffic is traffic. It's all a numbers game. More traffic = more signups providing you design for a sale and not a freebie. So might as well throw tgp2 into the mix.

soon I'll be adding a TGP2 extension to my TGP, but I would never do a 100% TGP2 ... they no fun :(

A good way to do this would be to have a link that says "Fast Loading Galleries"
This is good for people who still have slow connection.

How about trying it out for a while? Say, make one gallery a day and submit it to the pool, for one week or two? If you submit to the less populated niches, you'll probably see instant results. And then, unless your galleries are rotated out, you'll see some recurring results as well. :winkwink:

Great post.

Tgp2 is still alive. Gallery views are up 15k a day using the http://tgp2traffic.com gallery rotator.

And that's beside the the other 150k to 200k that we buy each month to feed the system.

Traffic has always been a problem with tgp2. But the conversion are fantastic.

Oz

Traffic is only a problem because of the few galleries available. If there would be more in the pool one can build several tgp2 sites with different galleries and niches and the traffic would start to flow.
Main failure of tgp2 at the moment is that only a few galleries are available for tgp-site builders.
I dont know exactly which requirements tgp2 hybrid sites must match, but I think if tgp2 sites would be allowed to trade with tgp's and filter their traffic it would help the tgp2 idea a lot.

Umm. No.

I have a ton of Hosted TGP2 galleries... hit me up on icq: 167019888 if interested.

Kappy
I think there are something like 5k to 7k of galleries in the pool on any given day.

Drop by Tgp2.com for more details.

Btw, Tgp2.com well take you to Chromehorn.com now.

Oz

I tried with TGP2 galleries and they never paid off for me. You have to stick with it I guess. Most people I talk to that surf say they don't like them but they're cheap pricks anyway's

Umm what happened to free sites?
:arcadefre

What about them?

Does anyone still do them, or have most of the newbies been left out of the loop?

Free sites take time for the money to build up. That's why not near as many people do them, no patience. Personally I've always had better luck with free sites than galleries...

same here.

I'm just trying to get an idea of what kind of profit potential there is in TGP2 before I spend too much time on it. I tried TGP2 when it was spanking new and it was a total waste. It's come a ways since then in standardization and I'm curious about it, again.

The thing is, I am up to my eyeballs in projects and I'd hate to spend a lot of my time editing galleries or designing new ones for TGP2 only to have it turn out to be a waste of time, again. For instance, if I have 10 galleries in the pool in various niches, would I be likely to see one sale a week? If so, it might be worth my time because I could edit 200 galleries and put them into rotation and make a few extra bucks a week. However, if it's going to take 50-60 galleries in the pool to get one signup/week, I'm probably better off hunting for spare change in my couch cushions.

SpaceAce

well ... for anyone who builds and submits TGP galleries --your spending the time to build and submit those. why not take the time to whack that gallery down to five pics, and build three TGP2 galleries out of them. submit one a day to the pool. and the SE's. there are other TGP2 sites that also accept submissions --either open or partner. now that your done chopping that 15 pic gallery up into TGP2 galleries, add a couple of those TGP2 galleries together and make a small 10 pic free site. and a small AVS site too. and submit `em around.

SpaceAce: you won't make a killing submitting a gallery a week to TGP2. but i haven't found that to be the case with regular TGP either ... :winkwink:

So where are good places to submit clean tgp2 galleries aside from the tg2gallerypool?

I think you misunderstood me. I am talking about adding one large group of galleries to the TGP2 pool and letting the TGP2 sites that use the pool list them and then adding more galleries as I make them for use in other areas. Obviously, one submission per week would never make any money.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce
You can submit up to 10 tgp2 galleries a day to the gallery pool.
Use different descriptions for each gallery and try not to submit them all to the same niche. 5 per niche should be fine.
Oh and they have to follow the standardized Tgp2 rules.

So really you can submit up to 70 tgp2 galleries a week.

On top of that do as Berg suggested. Make mini free sites out of the galleries you have submitted and submit those to the search engines.

Oz

I tough tgp 2 failed ... Looks like it's back 2 life :P

... which are a LOT more webmaster friendly than TGP. TGP2 actually allows banners and text links in numbers greater than 2 ...

This question deserves a bump.

Define failure.

Are there any niche TGP2's at all? Almost 2 years ago when I tried TGP2 all it had was teens and hardcore.