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dougeetx 08-19-2003 10:27 AM

BangBus.com
 
Is BangBus.com the "original" players in the adult reality sites realm? If no, who was????

Tofu 08-19-2003 10:29 AM

hmmmm....i would guess it was Ed Powers with the Dirty Debs, but i could be wrong....

drunkdollars 08-19-2003 10:30 AM

sweetloads is my guess

Sly_RJ 08-19-2003 10:31 AM

Eric's Nuts started it all!

chowda 08-19-2003 10:31 AM

no bangbus started the first fake reality pornsite

revbuddylove 08-19-2003 10:32 AM

Hoax's all dude lovefest was the first I think....

wargames 08-19-2003 10:32 AM

bangbus was the first:thumbsup

Obie Trice 08-19-2003 10:32 AM

Wow it took 4 months to them to update

loverboy 08-19-2003 10:33 AM

orig concept :thumbsup

SleazyDream 08-19-2003 10:38 AM

some things about it were origional to the net on a successful mass marketing model.

but nothing appears outa nowhere in this world. they amalgamated a bunch of marketing concepts into a winning idea.

Rick Latona 08-19-2003 10:53 AM

It depends on your definition of Reality. I would say that Sweetloads, Debs, etc. were doing GONZO content first. But, BangBus.com was the first we noticed with a reality theme. There is a difference.

FUCKuPAYme 08-19-2003 10:57 AM

Roger V from pornkings had a site called therealworld.com in 97-98

It was a live reality site that got press in the news,TV etc. thats my guess for first reality site.

SkyWalker 08-19-2003 11:08 AM

they were the first big splash one I think

Martin 08-19-2003 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by drunkdollars
sweetloads is my guess
That's the first one I seen.

Poppy 08-19-2003 11:10 AM

I would have to say the 1st people to shoot "Reality" porn at Lake Havasu, Copper Canyon, Nude Competitions, etc... would have to be GM Video

rockbear 08-19-2003 11:12 AM

Damn I think that there is something wrong ...The site of Bangbus is updated.

Jay3 08-19-2003 11:15 AM

Unless someone can prove me wrong I have to insist that we were the Pioneers of Reality Porn. Our first releas was in 1981, can anyone go earlier than that. Plus we have been nominated for 13 AVN awards and we have won 4 times...thats more than anyone else in that category...and yes thats more than Ed Powers (a good friend of GM Video) So just to set the record straight GM Video were the first ones on the reality porn set.
:thumbsup

-=HOAX=- 08-19-2003 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by revbuddylove
Hoax's all dude lovefest was the first I think....
He was there, he should know.

ztik 08-19-2003 11:16 AM

swoit

Phoggy 08-19-2003 11:20 AM

...as far as reality sites in the net, voyeurdorm is the first big reality site I can think of...

chupacabra 08-19-2003 11:20 AM

Quote:

hmmmm....i would guess it was Ed Powers with the Dirty Debs, but i could be wrong....
i'd have to concur... bangbus was just a kinda stupid gimmick, as far as early hardcore reality media i'd definitely point towards dirty debutantes as well..

GonZo 08-19-2003 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
It depends on your definition of Reality. I would say that Sweetloads, Debs, etc. were doing GONZO content first. But, BangBus.com was the first we noticed with a reality theme. There is a difference.
As much as I like Steve Sweet I havent ever sold him any of my content. Matter of fact Ive never released any of my content in the 10 years Ive spent shooting and filming it.

However I did make a tidy sum from promoting SweetLoads.

GonZo 08-19-2003 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tofu-Adult.com
hmmmm....i would guess it was Ed Powers with the Dirty Debs, but i could be wrong....
Old DOS Tip...

When they first released it edpowers.com was converting 1:20 at gonzo.com .

Im not sure what happened...nor is maxcash but that was quite short lived.

Jay3 08-19-2003 11:29 AM

We are freinds with Ed and I have to tell you we were doing reality porn way before he started the Dirty Debs...but just a little more trivia for you guy's before he did Dirty Debs he did a series called The Bus Stop. Same type of thing he would pick up girls at a bus stop and take them home and fuck them. So If you want to claim Ed is the first then at least know what his first attempts was. (The Bus Stop) But Again as I said earlier we won an AVN award before Dirty Debs was even put out...so how could he be the first? We made our first reality tape in 1981 called Wet T Shirt contest (I know thats original)lol And yes you can even still buy that tape at GM Video Store

Mutt 08-19-2003 11:32 AM

The godfather of GONZO is John Stagliano, aka Buttman, Ed Powers also deserves credit, as well as Seymore Butts cuz Seymore really started to make porn hip and cool. The real father of gonzo is a guy who went by the name of Ugly George in NYC, true reality video, cruised the streets of Manhattan getting chicks to flash - maybe fuck too, I've never seen any of his movies, just read about him when I was a kid, late 70's era, in Penthouse or somewhere.

On the Net, California Pimp/NetvideoGirls was way ahead of the OxCash and NastyDollars sites. Probably there were others but I don't know them.

TheFLY 08-19-2003 11:35 AM

BangBus was REALLY popular when it first hit...

Sweetloads never converted for me.

Jay3 08-19-2003 11:36 AM

Man You need to get it straight John Stagliano got his Idea from GM Video Another friend of Ours. We almost went into business with him instead of his Butman stuff. The reason he did not get onboard with Gm is because we were involved in a law suit at the time with a little known company called AMX So he decided to go another direction. And if any of you know John Stagliano you can ask him and he will ell you he got the idea for but man from GM I am telling you all we are the Pioneers Of Reality Porn we even have the name trademarked.

Far-L 08-19-2003 11:36 AM

Bang bus the pioneers?

Sweetloads the first?

Ed Powers?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHa!

Homegrown Video was around before any of them. Homegrown partially inspired Ed to start making Bus Stop Tales when he was just a sales guy at an adult company. We originated Sweetloads when my brother spec'd the deal with SEG at a trade show in Vegas for them to produce a "POV" style interview series for our Xplor Media productions...

Bang Bus did not originate "Gonzo" porn... (Porn Gonzo = Simulated XXX Reality) "Buttman" pioneered the style if anyone did...

Bang Bus deserves huge props for being marketing gurus and having a catchy product, but don't deify them as "pioneers". That title belongs to others way more deserving of the credit.

Chris 08-19-2003 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Eric's Nuts started it all!
ahmen to that !

TheFLY 08-19-2003 11:41 AM

no

foolio 08-19-2003 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chowda
no bangbus started the first fake reality pornsite
:1orglaugh

but where is ito?

Mutt 08-19-2003 11:45 AM

not going to nitpick here, whenever this type of thing gets discussed there are always people who will claim they were first, and they probably have some validity. But when most people think of GONZO PORN, it's more than just being unscripted or amateur as in Homegrown's case. Stagliano is the guy who all of today's gonzo studios and directors followed.

Gonzo in video porn terms is not shooting Wet T-shirt contests or girls gone wild type content. It's come to mean something different.

SleazyDream 08-19-2003 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
Bang Bus deserves huge props for being marketing gurus and having a catchy product, but don't deify them as "pioneers". That title belongs to others way more deserving of the credit.
<b><big>Ummm, NO</b></big>


they WERE pioneers (to use your term) in the internet marketplace with mass marketing of several concepts. I'm not saying they were the first - pioneers inferrs plural - but they WERE one of the first to get several concepts intigrated into their marketing system out there in a big way to webmasters.

Only a FOOL would question that

Far-L 08-19-2003 11:48 AM

GM is truly the pioneer of "Girls gone Wild" type content...

They didn't really do much "X" stuff until much later....

GonZo 08-19-2003 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Far-L
Bang bus the pioneers?

Sweetloads the first?

Ed Powers?

Hahahahahahahaha!

Homegrown Video was around before all of them.

Ed Powers as a sales guy at an adult company was inspired by Homegrown Video to start making his "Bus Stop Tales".

Sweetloads was originated by my brother who spec'ed a deal with SEG to produce a POV series for our Xplor Media lines.

"Gonzo porn", which really is simulated reality xxx, was probably originated with "Buttman" Stagliano, though some would say Jaime Gillis did it first when he did a "pick up" series or that
amateur porn was born when Ugly George hit the streets of New York City with a camera in the late seventies and early eighties.

In any event, Homegrown Video was the first authentic amateur or reality series and it also was promoting back on the General BBS years and years ago. Carol Cox was doing authentic reality shows on the net before Voyeur Dorm too...

Bang Bus deserves huge props for being great marketers and having a catchy product, but don't overdue it.

History lesson for the day is over. There will be a test on this info tomorrow.

Testify Brother Far L.

Death to the old flesh
Long live the new flesh

Videodrome....

Fletch XXX 08-19-2003 11:57 AM

There were Gonzo style writers before gonzo porn ;)

My man Dr Hunter S Thompson is the kaang of it ALL.

Mutt 08-19-2003 11:59 AM

I think the original poster here really meant to ask - who was the first 'fake reality porn site'?

I'm sticking to Netvideogirls as the first on the Net to run with that concept. And he's still the best at it - he's got the huge loyal fanbase because he concentrates on it solely, he's not busy trying to concoct spinoff derivative sites like Farthammer, he looks after the franchise and he'll be making millions off it for years into the future.

Far-L 08-19-2003 12:07 PM

Mutt: I agree that Netvideogirls deserves Grandmaster status.

Far-L 08-19-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


<b><big>Ummm, NO</b></big>


they WERE pioneers (to use your term) in the internet marketplace with mass marketing of several concepts. I'm not saying they were the first - pioneers inferrs plural - but they WERE one of the first to get several concepts intigrated into their marketing system out there in a big way to webmasters.

Only a FOOL would question that

So what did they "pioneer"?

Free content for webmasters to use in galleries?
Using TGP's to market content?
Doing Gonzo porn?
Using a partner program?
Using original content?


Perhaps you could be more specific about these systems that they integrated...

GonZo 08-19-2003 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
There were Gonzo style writers before gonzo porn ;)

My man Dr Hunter S Thompson is the kaang of it ALL.

He'll be your man when he trys to buy a domain from you.

If he is your man tell him its availible to him for the right price.
However the last conversation I had with him found the price to rich for his blood.

GonZo 08-19-2003 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream


<b><big>Ummm, NO</b></big>


they WERE pioneers (to use your term) in the internet marketplace with mass marketing of several concepts. I'm not saying they were the first - pioneers inferrs plural - but they WERE one of the first to get several concepts intigrated into their marketing system out there in a big way to webmasters.

Only a FOOL would question that

Now I see why you changed name tags with Aaron M at the show.

Theres not many people Ive ever seen call Far L a fool.
I guess its cuz hes such a newbie eh?

Penrod 08-19-2003 12:19 PM

www.voyeurdorm.com

Fletch XXX 08-19-2003 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo


He'll be your man when he trys to buy a domain from you.

If he is your man tell him its availible to him for the right price.
However the last conversation I had with him found the price to rich for his blood.

Man I have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

:helpme

GonZo 08-19-2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Man I have no clue what the hell you are talking about.

:helpme

Pearl....

Damn Im on the wrong board again.

If he was your man youd know.

Pornkings 08-19-2003 12:26 PM

the first real reality tape to be on sites that got the most press has to be Seth warshavsy with the Pam and Tommy video

It all depends on what is considered Reality
fake reality or reality

It was real

jennycam was one of the first live reality sites in 96 I think

I did therealworld the same time as voyour dorm we can argue who was first. but they blew up because of Seth warshavsky.

As far as Reality Porn I don't know I would have to go with FAR L

are we talking first reality site or Just reality content shot

CarolCox 08-19-2003 12:26 PM

I did a "Whoopie Wagon" and a "Shaggin' Wagon" story on my website back in 1998, long before Bang Bus. It was basically the same thing, just with me picking up a guy hitchhiking, and doing him in the back of the van as we drove around.

It's part of my "Short Stories" video series on my website.

I've been on the Internet since 1994, and everything I have done is "reality" :1orglaugh

You guys totally forgot about the original reality people on the Internet, the Amateurs! :thumbsup

Carol Cox :angel

Doctor Dre 08-19-2003 12:27 PM

It was the first big one for sure

Fletch XXX 08-19-2003 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GonZo


Pearl....

Damn Im on the wrong board again.

If he was your man youd know.

Pearl?

dude, I've read the guys books I wasnt saying the guy lets me fuck his sister. Have been into his stuff for years...

'My man' is a just a phrase. You know like 'Take a look at my man over there?'

:winkwink:

GonZo 08-19-2003 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX


Pearl?

dude, I've read the guys books I wasnt saying the guy lets me fuck his sister. Have been into his stuff for years...

'My man' is a just a phrase. You know like 'Take a look at my man over there?'

:winkwink:

THanks for the Dos tip.
He doesnt have a sister but he has a gay brother. Need a hook up?

OneHungLo 08-19-2003 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
I think the original poster here really meant to ask - who was the first 'fake reality porn site'?

I'm sticking to Netvideogirls as the first on the Net to run with that concept. And he's still the best at it - he's got the huge loyal fanbase because he concentrates on it solely, he's not busy trying to concoct spinoff derivative sites like Farthammer, he looks after the franchise and he'll be making millions off it for years into the future.

exploitedteens.com was doing it before netvideogirls :2 cents:


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