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Choker 08-17-2003 11:49 AM

Foreign Traffic Gurus need help please
 
Hoping someone can give me some honest opinions on the value of traffic filtered by BROWSER launguage.

If English is the benchmark at $10 per k, what about these?

German
Italian
Spanish
Japanese
French
Chinese
Russian
Dutch
Korean


And did I miss any that are worth filtering and selling?
Almost done with a new system for buying and selling non-english traffic, just need to set prices. thanks for any help here

BigFish 08-17-2003 11:51 AM

Yeah spanish helps too.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

If English is the benchmark at $10 per k, what about these?

German
Italian
Spanish
Japanese
French
Chinese
Russian
Dutch
Korean

I dunno about english @ $10.00, euro is a lot more valuable to me.

German, $9.00
Italy, $8.00
Spain, $5.50
JP, $3.50
French, $4.50
China, $2.00
Ru, $? Nobody wants it.
NL and NL-BE $6.50
KO, $5.00 to the right places.

That's where I see the market right now, for me anyway.

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Choker 08-17-2003 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BigFish
Yeah spanish helps too.
Yeah but how much is Spanish worth if the benchmark English is worth $10 per k?

Mutt 08-17-2003 11:57 AM

u forgot 'Broken English' ....... tho GFY posters convert worse than the Chinese.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 11:59 AM

I realize we have different systems, but US/CA is only worth about $3.00 to $3.50 to me.

You forgot UK. It's worth $5.50 retail.

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Naughty 08-17-2003 11:59 AM

We have a new preoduct for the UK that we want to test with a few people who have 50k+/day UK traffic. Any chance you going to be filtering that too?

We're the first in several countries with this product.

Choker 08-17-2003 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
I realize we have different systems, but US/CA is only worth about $3.00 to $3.50 to me.

You forgot UK. It's worth $5.50 retail.

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Yeah but I'm not filtering by IP, but by browser launguage, are you on icq right now?

Choker 08-17-2003 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Naughty
We have a new preoduct for the UK that we want to test with a few people who have 50k+/day UK traffic. Any chance you going to be filtering that too?

We're the first in several countries with this product.

Sorry no, I have no plans to filter by nation at this point.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

Yeah but I'm not filtering by IP, but by browser launguage, are you on icq right now?

Yep. Hit me.

shitstain 08-17-2003 12:03 PM

choker, you need a staff to take care of webmaster questions more efficiently :thumbsup

not really relevant to this thread but thought I would toss it in here anyway

Choker 08-17-2003 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shitstain
choker, you need a staff to take care of webmaster questions more efficiently :thumbsup

not really relevant to this thread but thought I would toss it in here anyway

All messages thru CTTS are kept caught up. I take it you are refering to posting on chickenboard?

Tuga 08-17-2003 12:11 PM

Man, you keep leaving portuguese traffic out, can chinese traffic be better than portuguese? Well.. just give me any portuguese traffic for free and I'll take it :thumbsup

shitstain 08-17-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker

All messages thru CTTS are kept caught up. I take it you are refering to posting on chickenboard?

naw, CTTS

I have one dated 08-11 but it's really no biggie.. I was just saying I think you are someone who would benefit from a staff :)

Choker 08-17-2003 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shitstain


naw, CTTS

I have one dated 08-11 but it's really no biggie.. I was just saying I think you are someone who would benefit from a staff :)

Can you resend the message please? It is a biggy to me, I make it a point to answer all messages, sometimes one does get lost in the shuffle

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Man, you keep leaving portuguese traffic out, can chinese traffic be better than portuguese? Well.. just give me any portuguese traffic for free and I'll take it :thumbsup
Yes, Portuguese traffic is productive as hell for TGP feeds. That's about where the value lies though.

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strobi 08-17-2003 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker


If English is the benchmark at $10 per k, what about these?

German 12$
Italian 7$
Spanish 5$
Japanese 2$
French 5$
Chinese 2$
Russian 0$
Dutch 9$
Korean 2$




Board Voyeur 08-17-2003 12:23 PM

If you are filtering by browser language than the traffic isnt worth shit imho.

Go get the geo:ip module for free from http://www.maxmind.com and find a competant programmer who is able to set filtering based on ip up for you.

Actually i take that back ill give you :2 cents: per k.

Jer 08-17-2003 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Man, you keep leaving portuguese traffic out, can chinese traffic be better than portuguese? Well.. just give me any portuguese traffic for free and I'll take it :thumbsup
:thumbsup

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi
JP, $2 - KO, $2
I feel you're pretty close on those except JP and KO.

JP is worth quite a lot to those who handle it, and so is KO. Don't forget that ccBill is processing KO now, and it's not all that hard to translate a front end for them.

[edit] Sometimes, people make the mistake of lumping all Asian together. That's pretty far from case and maximizing the handling of traffic ...

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strobi 08-17-2003 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


I feel you're pretty close on those except JP and KO.

JP is worth quite a lot to those who handle it, and so is KO. Don't forget that ccBill is processing KO now, and it's not all that hard to translate a front end for them.

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Well I never used korean/chinese/japanse traffic so those $ are a wild guess (those 2$). I find Dutch and German traffic more valuable than plain english traffic.

Tuga 08-17-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic


Yes, Portuguese traffic is productive as hell for TGP feeds. That's about where the value lies though.

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That's correct. Portuguese dont like to use their CCs a lot, but they understand english and they click like hell! To feed trades in a TGP it's perfect. I think it's worth at least $2.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by strobi


Well I never used korean/chinese/japanse traffic so those $ are a wild guess (those 2$). I find Dutch and German traffic more valuable than plain english traffic.

Oh hell yes. Any day. I have orders in line for months to come. Dutch too. What this world needs is more dutch people :)

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Choker 08-17-2003 01:01 PM

Since I sell English for $7 per k, how does these prices look?

German 7$
Italian 6$
Spanish 5$
Japanese 5$
French 5$
Chinese 1$
Russian 1$
Dutch 7$
Korean 5$
Port 4$



I mean is there really a market at these prices? I hear a lot of talk about guys wanting non-english traffic, but when it comes down to the money exchanging hands, it's a different story then.

Theo 08-17-2003 01:06 PM

choker,filter please the greek traffic as well. Can this be send to dialers or sponsors? For a good price i would buy all the greek hits.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Since I sell English for $7 per k, how does these prices look?
German 7$
Italian 6$
Spanish 5$
Japanese 5$
French 5$
Chinese 1$
Russian 1$
Dutch 7$
Korean 5$
Port 4$
I mean is there really a market at these prices? I hear a lot of talk about guys wanting non-english traffic, but when it comes down to the money exchanging hands, it's a different story then.

I think it looks good. I feel you're a little low on German considering this is CLICKED traffic.

You can always make modifications when you see what your own supply and demand is.

Good starting point.

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Board Voyeur 08-17-2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Since I sell English for $7 per k, how does these prices look?

German 7$
Italian 6$
Spanish 5$
Japanese 5$
French 5$
Chinese 1$
Russian 1$
Dutch 7$
Korean 5$
Port 4$



I mean is there really a market at these prices? I hear a lot of talk about guys wanting non-english traffic, but when it comes down to the money exchanging hands, it's a different story then.

Choker, are these prices set in stone as yet? If so i would like to order 1million Chinese speaking hits please.

Choker 08-17-2003 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
choker,filter please the greek traffic as well. Can this be send to dialers or sponsors? For a good price i would buy all the greek hits.
Do they actually buy? Rules are below, I think they are fair

If you are buying foreign traffic, the below are updated rules

1. Your page must not redirect any traffic at all. I need to actually see the page.
2. Any site is fine, as long as it is legal content in the US.
3. Blind thumbs,fake movies to dialers are ok, but.........
4. No auto prompts of any kind. No consoles of any kind. No changing bookmark settings or surfers homepage.
5. Once the surfer clicks anything on the site the traffic is sent to, then you can pop consoles. But not from the page I send to.
6. If you change the page to the point that it breaks these rules after your order is activated, you will be blacklisted FOREVER. As always, cheaters do not get second chances with me.

Don't mean to sound like a asshole, but I have to sometimes

Choker 08-17-2003 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Board Voyeur


Choker, are these prices set in stone as yet? If so i would like to order 1million Chinese speaking hits please.

No they are not, I think I will go with these prices and adjust with supply and demand. But I don't change prices retroactively on active orders. The main reason I need the prices set is so I can determine the payout for this traffic from the tgps I will be buying it from, It will all be bounced of my sites before it is sold, but I gotta pay the tgps a decent price for it.

Adult Site Traffic 08-17-2003 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Board Voyeur


Choker, are these prices set in stone as yet? If so i would like to order 1million Chinese speaking hits please.

See, you already made a cool grand :thumbsup

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Theo 08-17-2003 01:33 PM

they dont use their credit cards online, but if the use of native lang is allowed in the ads there are ways to turn them to profit like all other traffic sources. Rules look fair to me.

Jer 08-17-2003 01:50 PM

Chocker, so the sellmetraffic program (and / or other program) will pay for these languages in the future?

What about the languages that arent in your list, do you plan to sell and pay for them as well?

Choker 08-17-2003 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
they dont use their credit cards online, but if the use of native lang is allowed in the ads there are ways to turn them to profit like all other traffic sources. Rules look fair to me.
Ok I will try Greek at $2 per k

Theo 08-17-2003 02:08 PM

nice,i'm looking forward for it :-)

Choker 08-17-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
Chocker, so the sellmetraffic program (and / or other program) will pay for these languages in the future?

What about the languages that arent in your list, do you plan to sell and pay for them as well?

You are on to my plans I see? LOL. Yes SMT is being converted as we speek. When you send a german surfer, he will be sent to a 0% to galleries page like this http://www4.chickenhost.com/sellers/...d=justfind.com

Each each click on a german page will credit you .7 of a click. Since I pay out $5 per 1k click for English, you will get paid 50% of what I can sell that surfer for. BUT..if that german's productivity is 200%, you get paid 1.4 clicks for that one surfer. Each launguage will be a different payout rate, depending on what I can sell him for. The prices will be dynamic since I have to price this on supply and demand.

GS2 I hope to have converted by this time next week.

Tuga 08-17-2003 02:18 PM

Choker that's great news :thumbsup

If you need to translate anything into portuguese I can do it easily.

Choker 08-17-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
Choker that's great news :thumbsup

If you need to translate anything into portuguese I can do it easily.

Yep I will take you up on this right now :thumbsup

Jer 08-17-2003 02:25 PM

Sounds GREAT, Choker :thumbsup

I could help you with portuguese too, but Tuga already offered himself to the job :)

Choker 08-17-2003 03:12 PM

Ok, everyone who posted above this thread with a meaningful post, LOL, give me your CTTS username, url, and launguage you want I will send you 10k out to test this system.

Tuga 08-17-2003 03:19 PM

Sweet :) , I'll take the portuguese traffic, I just have to build a page to filter it.

puresexnow 08-17-2003 04:44 PM

Does anybody have some links to articles on how to best work with foreign traffic?

Sounds like a rewarding game to play, but I do not know the ins and outs....

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Veiga 08-17-2003 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Choker
Hoping someone can give me some honest opinions on the value of traffic filtered by BROWSER launguage.

If English is the benchmark at $10 per k, what about these?

German
Italian
Spanish
Japanese
French
Chinese
Russian
Dutch
Korean


And did I miss any that are worth filtering and selling?
Almost done with a new system for buying and selling non-english traffic, just need to set prices. thanks for any help here

I am very interested in buying portuguese traffic. If you have it, I wanna buy it!

KRL 08-17-2003 05:26 PM

You missed Greece. I get a lot of action from there on gay sites. Not sure why.

Choker 08-17-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veiga


I am very interested in buying portuguese traffic. If you have it, I wanna buy it!

Yep got it, here's what I have flowing thru the system at the moment:

English $6.00
German $7.00
Dutch $7.00
Danish $7.00
Finish $7.00
Italian $6.00
Spanish $5.00
Swedish $5.00
Japanese $5.00
Korean $5.00
Polish $3.00
Portuguese $3.00
Greek $3.00
French $2.00
Russian $1.00
Romainian $1.00
Chinese $1.00
Thai $1.00
Ukranian $1.00
Vietnamese $1.00
Arabian $1.00

hanii 08-17-2003 11:02 PM

Korean traffic?
i convert 189:1 with caribbeancom.com
43 signups daily from naver.com(ppc search ad)

122 :1 with kuki.co.jp
16 signups daily from empas.com(ppc search ad)
(average rebill cycle is 4.7 month)

can't convert with them?
because your sponsor(or your own paysite)doesn't suit their taste.
and language is the matter.

Choker 08-17-2003 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hanii
Korean traffic?
i convert 189:1 with caribbeancom.com
43 signups daily from naver.com(ppc search ad)

122 :1 with kuki.co.jp
16 signups daily from empas.com(ppc search ad)
(average rebill cycle is 4.7 month)

can't convert with them?
because your sponsor(or your own paysite)doesn't suit their taste.
and language is the matter.

Not sure I understand your point sir. I priced Korean at $5 per k. And that is clicked, proxy free traffic. As far as converting it, my talent is in multiplying traffic, not converting it. I will raise or lower prices depending on suppy and demand. I think the prices I stated are a good starting point.

gkremen 08-17-2003 11:52 PM

Not to make fun of Choker specifically, but what is the value of 1,000,000,000 clicks from countries that have no credit cards, no dialers, no methods of payment? Like Iran and China. The answer is negative value, because it costs you bandwidth and creditability with those you also trade this. Quite frankly, trading traffic of no value is a scam, that defocuses you from making money.

So stop trading and stop dealing with those that might cheat you. Purchase traffic from http://www.sex.com like our 2,600 other current customers. Get pure US (or pure http://france.sex.com or http://german.sex.com sorted by targeted keyword. We employ anti-fraud that is accepted by the other 50 search engines that use our results for adult searches including http://www.google.de

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Choker 08-17-2003 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen
Not to make fun of Choker specifically, but what is the value of 1,000,000,000 clicks from countries that have no credit cards, no dialers, no methods of payment? Like Iran and China. The answer is negative value, because it costs you bandwidth and creditability with those you also trade this. Quite frankly, trading traffic of no value is a scam, that defocuses you from making money.

So stop trading and stop dealing with those that might cheat you. Purchase traffic from http://www.sex.com like our 2,600 other current customers. Get pure US (or pure http://france.sex.com or http://german.sex.com sorted by targeted keyword. We employ anti-fraud that is accepted by the other 50 search engines that use our results for adult searches including http://www.google.de

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Not to make fun of sex.com specifically, but where in this thread do you see anyone asking for your spam. I have never seen a post from any of you guys other than to spam your shit, and in my threads? You have no fucking class whatsoever. Let's do a search on sex.com here and see how many complaints we can find about your shit, yes I said SHITTTT traffic. You need to learn some business ethnics asshole.

Board Voyeur 08-18-2003 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen
Not to make fun of Choker specifically, but what is the value of 1,000,000,000 clicks from countries that have no credit cards, no dialers, no methods of payment? Like Iran and China. The answer is negative value, because it costs you bandwidth and creditability with those you also trade this. Quite frankly, trading traffic of no value is a scam, that defocuses you from making money.

So stop trading and stop dealing with those that might cheat you. Purchase traffic from http://www.sex.com like our 2,600 other current customers. Get pure US (or pure http://france.sex.com or http://german.sex.com sorted by targeted keyword. We employ anti-fraud that is accepted by the other 50 search engines that use our results for adult searches including http://www.google.de

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Sorry but thats fucked.

1) See Chokers post above!

2) China doesnt have credit cards? Are you a complete moron?

3) What is the point in buying keyword specific traffic from you guys? All we will be getting is a mix of 'global' traffic which we cant filter to our benefit.

4) Stop spamming sex.com

5) :321GFY sex.com

Evil1 08-19-2003 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gkremen
Not to make fun of Choker specifically, but what is the value of 1,000,000,000 clicks from countries that have no credit cards, no dialers, no methods of payment? Like Iran and China. The answer is negative value, because it costs you bandwidth and creditability with those you also trade this. Quite frankly, trading traffic of no value is a scam, that defocuses you from making money.

So stop trading and stop dealing with those that might cheat you. Purchase traffic from http://www.sex.com like our 2,600 other current customers. Get pure US (or pure http://france.sex.com or http://german.sex.com sorted by targeted keyword. We employ anti-fraud that is accepted by the other 50 search engines that use our results for adult searches including http://www.google.de

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1. Thread jacking is quite fucking lame
2. Are you saying you cant make money with... eh fuckit, eat a dick.
3. I've never heard choker called a cheater till this thread, lets see some proof.


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