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Board Voyeur 08-16-2003 06:13 AM

Mastercard - Is It True?
 
That if you go over the chargeback threshold for two consecutive months you lose all rebilling options?

Lets discuss this.

Probono 08-16-2003 09:10 AM

As I understand it, if you have your own merchant account and have more than 1% CB in 3 months you lose rebills and pay a hefty fine. Also if you exceed 15 Cb in a month, refunds and chargebacks are combined to reach 1%.

If you use an IPSP they are the merchant, so your life is in their hands. They are the merchant.

Visa is a whole different animal.

Adult Site Traffic 08-16-2003 09:15 AM

Take a proactive roll in your business. I do, and have had not one chargeback related to credit card processing.

NayPay and Stormpay are different animals, so I just created a line item for fraud :)


Adult Site Traffic ICQ me? Click Here or E-mail me Here

Pipecrew 08-16-2003 09:17 AM

I wonder when someone will start up a business threatening adult companies to pay ransom or else they will card them to high heaven.

directfiesta 08-16-2003 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by Pipecrew
I wonder when someone will start up a business threatening adult companies to pay ransom or else they will card them to high heaven.
Looks like it is in the works....

p00p 08-16-2003 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pipecrew
I wonder when someone will start up a business threatening adult companies to pay ransom or else they will card them to high heaven.
deepsy already did it with ddos attacks, so this can't be too far away.
Great way to knock a competitor out of business!

sid 08-16-2003 09:57 AM

great - keep giving them good ideas :321GFY

Konda 08-16-2003 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
As I understand it, if you have your own merchant account and have more than 1% CB in 3 months you lose rebills
Rebills have nothing to do with a merchant account. You can submit rebills as new transactions on another merchant account if you loose one... And most people with their own merchant account and are familliar with high chargebacks have at least one or two backup merchants.

Konda 08-16-2003 11:45 AM

double.

NETbilling 08-16-2003 12:48 PM

Hi,

(Since November of last year, the IPSPs must report the chargeback thresholds of each sub merchant to Visa and Mastercard monthly. The rulkes are basically the same whether you have you own merchant account or use an IPSP.

As more and more merchants are now getting merchant accounts, they see that the difference is not that much different besides the control factor and the $$$ savings in transaction fees.

Mitch

p00p 08-16-2003 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sid
great - keep giving them good ideas :321GFY
Don't piss people off. :321GFY

Probono 08-16-2003 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Hi,

(Since November of last year, the IPSPs must report the chargeback thresholds of each sub merchant to Visa and Mastercard monthly. The rulkes are basically the same whether you have you own merchant account or use an IPSP.

As more and more merchants are now getting merchant accounts, they see that the difference is not that much different besides the control factor and the $$$ savings in transaction fees.

Mitch

Mitch perhaps I have missunderstood the IPSP statements on MC. I understand that as far a MC is concerned the merchant is the IPSP, they sell product provided by the site. The ratios are regarding the IPSP account. If this is correct having your own merchant account is a real advantage to a low chargeback merchant.

Is my interpretation correct?

webair 08-16-2003 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
Take a proactive roll in your business. I do, and have had not one chargeback related to credit card processing.

NayPay and Stormpay are different animals, so I just created a line item for fraud :)


Adult Site Traffic ICQ me? Click Here or E-mail me Here

good point, police your shit right and you shouldnt have any chargebacks ...

Board Voyeur 08-16-2003 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Hi,

(Since November of last year, the IPSPs must report the chargeback thresholds of each sub merchant to Visa and Mastercard monthly. The rulkes are basically the same whether you have you own merchant account or use an IPSP.

As more and more merchants are now getting merchant accounts, they see that the difference is not that much different besides the control factor and the $$$ savings in transaction fees.

Mitch

Mitch am i to understand from that that the details in my first post are correct? I.e, if a merchant has excessive chargebacks (read as over the threshold limit for two consecutive month) they will lose their rebill status from MC?

Kimmykim 08-16-2003 04:14 PM

They can lose their rebills. This isn't a new rule to the best of my knowledge, just one that hasn't been enforced as of yet.

The bigger problem with Mastercard is the 15 cb threshhold monthly and the 'discretionary' tactic of calculating credits in the same category to assess fines :(

Shoplifter 08-16-2003 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
They can lose their rebills. This isn't a new rule to the best of my knowledge, just one that hasn't been enforced as of yet.

The bigger problem with Mastercard is the 15 cb threshhold monthly and the 'discretionary' tactic of calculating credits in the same category to assess fines :(


I thought you would only be under scrutiny if you had more than 100 CB's. Are you talking about merchant accounts?

missbunny 08-16-2003 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adult Site Traffic
Take a proactive roll in your business. I do, and have had not one chargeback related to credit card processing.

NayPay and Stormpay are different animals, so I just created a line item for fraud :)


Adult Site Traffic ICQ me? Click Here or E-mail me Here


being active and staying on top of things sounds good, but I recently got a chargeback and when I contacted the customer he said he hadn't meant to charge it back.

He told me he called master card and asked them not to allow his membership to rebill since he lost his password. He didn't come back to my site to retrieve it and he lost his confirmation email. He also didn't email me. He told me that he had not asked for a chargeback that they initiated a chargeback on their own. I am really on top of customer service, but there is only so much you can do if people don't contact me.

Also, doesn't your CC company need to have a signature before they can initiate a charge back?

NETbilling 08-16-2003 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono


Mitch perhaps I have missunderstood the IPSP statements on MC. I understand that as far a MC is concerned the merchant is the IPSP, they sell product provided by the site. The ratios are regarding the IPSP account. If this is correct having your own merchant account is a real advantage to a low chargeback merchant.

Is my interpretation correct?

Hi,

You are absolutely correct. You also have more copntrol and typically get daily payouts with your own merchant account.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

IMP^or^SNiTL.e 08-17-2003 12:44 AM

fuck mastercard your better off just getting all your money off alladvantage

everyone should quit your jobs and sit on alladvantage

CC 08-17-2003 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by missbunny


Also, doesn't your CC company need to have a signature before they can initiate a charge back?

Nope, my main CC is a Mastercard, and you can do a chargeback totally online, without any signature at all. It's kind of frightening, actually. All you have to do is click a link that says "Dispute Charge", then select the reason why you are disputing it, and that's it....it takes about a week for the credit to be issued. Scary.


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