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Tuga 08-04-2003 07:44 AM

Western Union
 
What do you think of Western Union as a way to send money worldwide? I live in Portugal and I use paypal, but I cant withdraw and that sucks.
If I start asking for western union when I sell templates, submissions, etc... do you think webmasters will go for it? They can send the money online or by phone, so it shouldnt be a problem, right?

Stallion 08-04-2003 07:46 AM

Western Union fees are pretty high if your sending lots of money.

Rui 08-04-2003 07:47 AM

Actually it would m8 :)

1º - People would have lots more work to pay you for the stuff (waiting in post office,etc..etc..)

2º - They charge pretty high fees (only worth if you are recive lots of money or are in hurry)!

If you need we can make a deal ;) you know my icq :thumbsup

Tuga 08-04-2003 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rui
Actually it would m8 :)

1º - People would have lots more work to pay you for the stuff (waiting in post office,etc..etc..)

2º - They charge pretty high fees (only worth if you are recive lots of money or are in hurry)!

If you need we can make a deal ;) you know my icq :thumbsup

#1 is not true. Like I said, they can pay online and by phone using a CC as long they have an US account.

#2 is true, but I rather pay for a big part of the fees myself and maybe raise my prices a little, than get more money on paypal that I can only use online. I use that for hosting, content, etc... but I want to buy a couple of drinks too and I need real money.

What do you mean by a deal? Can you help me cash paypal money?

keyDet79 08-04-2003 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga


#1 is not true. Like I said, they can pay online and by phone using a CC as long they have an US account.

#2 is true, but I rather pay for a big part of the fees myself and maybe raise my prices a little, than get more money on paypal that I can only use online. I use that for hosting, content, etc... but I want to buy a couple of drinks too and I need real money.

What do you mean by a deal? Can you help me cash paypal money?

#1 is true for you though, you will need to drive to the post office to pick up the money. I think it only stays there for 2 weeks by default or so.

The fee for sending cash starts at about $15-20 (depends on locations) no matter the amount. Why not use 2Checkout?

buddyjuf 08-04-2003 08:08 AM

FUCK WU
their fees are somewhere near 20%! :mad:

Tuga 08-04-2003 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keyDet79


#1 is true for you though, you will need to drive to the post office to pick up the money. I think it only stays there for 2 weeks by default or so.

The fee for sending cash starts at about $15-20 (depends on locations) no matter the amount. Why not use 2Checkout?

I am willing to walk 2m to the nearest post office to collect the money. That's not a problem.

I'm looking at 2Checkout now. Anyone else using that?

You have to understand that all the options I know have drawbacks. I'm looking for something that allows me to receive real money in Portugal, as fast as possible. So I guess high fees is the price to pay. It's still better than having lots of money on a paypal account that I cant withdraw from and that can be shutdown anytime.

keyDet79 08-04-2003 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga


I am willing to walk 2m to the nearest post office to collect the money. That's not a problem.

I'm looking at 2Checkout now. Anyone else using that?

You have to understand that all the options I know have drawbacks. I'm looking for something that allows me to receive real money in Portugal, as fast as possible. So I guess high fees is the price to pay. It's still better than having lots of money on a paypal account that I cant withdraw from and that can be shutdown anytime.

2Checkout ($50 to join) sends out checks or wire transfers every 2 weeks, it's about $35 per wire transfer (check is free), the higher the amount the less it costs though. 5.5% Fee per transaction, they also temporarily keep 5% at every withdrawal for 3 months for security. People with no credit cards can pay them by check.

Paypal is better/cheaper, but 2Checkout is ok.

cheekycherry 08-04-2003 08:35 AM

Western Onion is shit mate... The operators hardly ever pay out, instead they give excuses like,

"The guy spelled your name with one T instead of two, he'll have to send again"

Yawn... Another trip.

Darren 08-04-2003 08:56 AM

cheekycherry whats up with ya dude? not talking to me anymore!?

Regarding WU scammers usually use it so i do NOT pay anyone by this way anymore.

cheekycherry 08-04-2003 08:59 AM

What you on about Daz?

First time I've seen ya in a while mate, you know I went to Malta for a week and just got back from 2 weeks in gran canaria don't ya?

<<< Not very brown though

dnsmonster 08-04-2003 09:07 AM

You should consider MoneyGram - same deal as WU but significantly lower fees to many countries. Also, why not do a bank wire?

cheekycherry 08-04-2003 09:10 AM

Money gram same shit as western union.

artware 08-04-2003 09:23 AM

You could also think about setting up a bank account in a country that paypal supports for withdrawals (Netherlands, Switzerland).
That way you can get money to a safe account and withdraw it from an ATM in your own country.

For switzerland you could look at Swiss Post for example. They are used to supporting foreign clients, have electronic banking and so on.

KRL 08-04-2003 10:07 AM

Western Union works fine.

Tuga 08-04-2003 10:26 AM

Thanks for all the replies, now I have some more options to consider :thumbsup

I oppened a swiss account, every millionaire has one, and so do I :Graucho Now I have to wait until I get a letter from them, sign the papers, and send it back. Then I'll try to withdraw from paypal into that and wire to my portuguese account. It should work...

If you have other ideas, keep them coming, I think this thread could be usefull to many non-US webmasters.

TurboAngel 08-04-2003 10:35 AM

What about Storm Pay?
Don't know if it will work for you.



:thumbsup

jungar 08-04-2003 10:38 AM

You should try www.myVirtualCard.com

Tuga 08-04-2003 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TurboAngel
What about Storm Pay?
Don't know if it will work for you.



:thumbsup

Maybe it could work, if everyone else was using it. But even after all the problems, all my clients use paypal.

TurboAngel 08-04-2003 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga


Maybe it could work, if everyone else was using it. But even after all the problems, all my clients use paypal.





We use it and no probs here!






:thumbsup

Rui 08-04-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga


#1 is not true. Like I said, they can pay online and by phone using a CC as long they have an US account.

#2 is true, but I rather pay for a big part of the fees myself and maybe raise my prices a little, than get more money on paypal that I can only use online. I use that for hosting, content, etc... but I want to buy a couple of drinks too and I need real money.

What do you mean by a deal? Can you help me cash paypal money?

All your customers are from the US..nice keep in mind you can't send money thru a site everywhere...

2º Goodluck paying the fees for it, you will need to make some serious price changes!

3º The fact that you will be below competition (i.e - not beeing able to process cc tru your site in a much easier way) will put people away!

anyway do what you want...its your money afterall :2 cents:

Tuga 08-04-2003 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rui


All your customers are from the US..nice keep in mind you can't send money thru a site everywhere...

2º Goodluck paying the fees for it, you will need to make some serious price changes!

3º The fact that you will be below competition (i.e - not beeing able to process cc tru your site in a much easier way) will put people away!

anyway do what you want...its your money afterall :2 cents:

1 - Most of my costumers are from the US, not all of them. But I'm not looking for a solution that pleases ALL of them, I would keep using paypal whenever necessary.

2 - Like I said before. Sometimes I would rather have $100 in my hand than $130 in a fucking virtual account that I cant touch offline. That's my problem and it doesnt mean a price change.

3 - The reason I started this thread was to find out if people consider WU an easier way. Most dont, so I am looking into other options, like I already said above. I have a swiss account waiting for activation and I'll get my paypal money trough that. If there's no glitches in the process, my problem is solved without WU.

delia 08-04-2003 11:33 AM

WU is very use to use but i don't know why i have the feeling webmasters will never pay with WU. Plus the fees are quite big, especially for the large amounts of money.

Bear 08-04-2003 05:54 PM

You can also try http://www.moneybookers.com

jennycards 08-04-2003 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tuga
What do you think of Western Union as a way to send money worldwide? I live in Portugal and I use paypal, but I cant withdraw and that sucks.
If I start asking for western union when I sell templates, submissions, etc... do you think webmasters will go for it? They can send the money online or by phone, so it shouldnt be a problem, right?

You better get a bank account in a country where you can withdraw PayPal funds. I am able to set up an account for your here in Austria pretty easily. Just send an email to os at jennycards.com.

Darren 08-05-2003 01:27 AM

cheekycherry forgot u went away dude, good time? Been moving offices and that as caused a lot of confusion.

iroc409 08-05-2003 01:30 AM

personally i wouldn't use WU for anything. they harbor scammers and don't give a rat's ass :)

cheekycherry 08-05-2003 02:32 AM

Yeah Daz not bad mate... I have moved out of the office too.

The cleaner pissed me off too much. She'd come in at about 4 o clock every afternoon and start rumaging through my bin looking for stamps and reading anything I didn't shred. I think she was retarded.

And my employees were shit... So I sacked em and fucked off on holiday.

Back at home now baby and enjoying the fact I don't need to go into the real world, iron any clothes or smile at any ugly fuckers I don't like. :glugglug

Being at home rules.

cheekycherry 08-05-2003 02:33 AM

Oooh, friends just started!:glugglug

Darren 08-05-2003 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cheekycherry
Oooh, friends just started!:glugglug
its an hard life aint it?

did u go to riverside festival, bloody brilliant piss up it was... going down water front later to soak up some rays and drink some beer.

ibs 08-05-2003 03:04 AM

wu used to have a program where you got a merchant number and the payor paid a small set fee

Then they wired you the money or gave you a check printer and a box of their checks to print all you needed was a dedicated phone for the printer to answer each time you got a check

aaaaaahhhhhh money checks aaaaaaahhhhhhhh

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oh sorry
just remembering the good ole days when any naked pics on the net ment you got rich today when aol was pushing to get a million subscribers and yahoo wash more expensive than gold per share.

cheekycherry 08-05-2003 03:12 AM

Naaah, didn't go to any festival matey... Didn't know about it to tell you the truth.

Going cruising to Lincoln today in my nigga's soft top to get some parts for his boat... We gonna sail accross the channel baby! (prolly get killed, his boat is shit and I can't sail)... come to think of it, he can't sail...


Anyway, take advantage of the rays man, after this week I can't see us getting anymore in England... Damn I hope that ozone layer hurries up and gets depleted *matt reaches for his can of wikos 59p deodorant*

Later mate, have a great day Daz...

Johny Traffic 08-05-2003 03:14 AM

Try Paul at Nochex.com tell him I sent you Im sure he can help:thumbsup


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