common newbies - take a different path!
 

there are so many damn roads in this biz. i constantly see the same

"i want a tgp like thehun ..."

or

"i need offshore info/spamming utilities...."

there are a few other options than that!

quit being so fucking lazy! A dialer will not make you rich like yrs ago, and your tgp will NEVER be another thehun. Spamming doesnt have the affect it had years, or even months ago either.

start an AVS empire from the ground up. put in the hours and you will make bank.

make a linklist ... with your own links! Then buy some traffic from diferent sources to your LL and hope for the best.

start a niche toplist, god knows there arent enough of those around. toplist traffic can sometimes be VERY profitable.

grab a camera, get a license and put up some content. maybe you can be the next virtuamike and be at every single party in the world ... at the same time! takes work and lots of practice but its all doable ...

after a few months in the biz, sit and think of something you wish you had (a resource or program). chances are others wish the same thing! make it happen for them!!! Thats what you call being original and innovative.

buy a copy of photoshop or flash, maybe you have some skills, otherwise work on it a bit ... never know! just takes a creative mind and some knowledge on the programs.

play the SE game! keep tweaking sites to attract SE hits, funneled to a sponsor page. before you know it you have oodles of QUAITY traffic at your fingertips. I do this one, it is NOT hard guys ... just takes time and effort!



just saying, there is no "yellow brick road". you gotta make your own road and hope it leads to the right place.

quit trying to make a quick buck ... it aint gonna happen. If i couldnt do it, you cant either (no offense, but i tried a long ass time)

well, im gonna go lay in the pool for a bit. always open for a chat if anyone feels like talking. hit me up later on.

good luck and remember to keep your head high ... theres always a way, it just may not be easy.


ok later.

Thanks dude

you know you almost made it into this post too.

you sell those books. something most people need, but nobody thinks of doing.

very creative and original (somewhat) idea. much more than starting a tgp anyhow.

and if all newbies had a tasty cock like you, they would do much better.

oops, did that sound gay?

its all about new ideas and staying creative.

I only run TGP's that promote dialers. I have them on freehosts.

Rich, FUCK YOU! I have been trying to follow your Newbie Guide to a 300k TGP in one week, and NOW you tell me this?!?!

AHahahah :1orglaugh

Nah man thats not gay , it all praise :thumbsup

And if you can't come up with your own new ideas, perfect someone else's. That works also.

exactly!

thehun, PK, shemp, many others ... all had something available back then that wasnt given out so freely now, that is why they got to be what they are today. they were around when not too many people were. THEY had the original ideas, and THEY banked off of it.

look at choker! he knew every webmaster busts his ass for what? traffic! what does he do? he puts together a program that can deliver any amount, any quality, and any style of traffic you like or need. Then he realized that most tgp owners are getting ass fucked by cheaters, so he came up with a solution. Very innovative ideas he has, and i look forward to more. He is the kind of guy that can start over this very day and still be a success story.

Need to break the ice on a new idea, or meet the needs of other people who are willing to pay for something.

not just throw another 400 links up to free galleries.

:2 cents:

that guide has SOOOO been tested, and it DOES work.

after 9 pages or some shit, dont you think someone has tried it other than me? dont you think they would LOVE to come here bragging how i was wrong? lol

only thing i didnt realize back then ... you are creating somewhat of a clean CJ, not so much a TGP

none the less, the methods work.

The only thing worse than newbies is newbies that try to give advice.

how about newbies that sit around pretending to know something, yet dont help anyone, including themselves?

seems about right in your case.

just closed this thread and saw another thread that proves my point.

GoGoBar has come up with a counter. Now sure there are other counters around, but he took all their weeknesses and strengths, as well as his own great ideas ... and made a kick ass program that will be huge.

that goes with what KRL said, take an idea and perfect on it.

Sometimes you dont need to recreate the wheel, just throw a new set of shiny mags on there and ride along ....

god please stop, stop this please!!!

1) I'm not a newbie

2) What posts of mine make you think I'm pretending to know something?

3) Why the fuck would I want to waste my time helping random newbs make more money in this industry?

how about ...

just a thought though, i dunno

How was I wrong? It looks to me like you're trying to give advice.

i am trying to give advice. And ok, i am a newbie ... but am i in the same boat as 90% of other newbies? i dont think so.

so dont try making me feel like shit for trying to give advice.

Im only trying to help

Just a thought...... but if you were promoting a program where you made, say, 10% of the earnings of webmasters who signed up below you, wouldn't it be in your interests to try and help them?

Or am I missing something here?

very good point.

i tell people all the time iw ill gladly show them some tips if they sign under me.

only problem is like someone else said somewhere, you show them, then they dont use it to push your program. They TRY it on your program, but then they wanna try other shit.

nobody seams to be loyal.

you cant imagine how many newbies msg me and ask what to do, or how to do it ... yet i think i made $3 last month off of referrals.

no biggie, im not really helping people for my own benefit, thats just an added bonus when it happens.

Rich I have to admit you are getting slightly better, and I was just teasing, but this post was SOOOOO STUPID!

Do you think that someone who was stupid enough to follow your guide would come here and tell everyone about it?! More likely he would hide in a dark, cold place forever. That thread had 9 pages because it was so funny, in it's own way :1orglaugh

Even if you could end up with a 300k CJ, that's SOOOOO different from a 300k TGP that you should just SFTU.

"our tgp will NEVER be another thehun" , you said it yourself.

can i bump this for some of the more recent newbies?

enjoy ...

Good thread! :thumbsup

This biz is simple.. find something that makes you 1 dollar a day, and do it a thousand times.

:thumbsup

when nothing is working it is hard to find that one thing making even $1 a day, been there.

but you are right ...

i look at it this way, if i can't create something new which makes a coin i'm still a newbie. with that said, i think newbies should learn how to make money with existing ways, get comfortable with the idea of making a stable income and then come up with something new and unique which will make you and others more money.
there really have nothing much left to do besides TGPs, LLs, Paysites until new technologies will be introduced and implimented to the mainstream market.
for some hints: what is the demand of current markets? what can be offered to improve current markets? what market needs that is not there yet?

btw different paths are taken when there is a significant proof that current paths are not working ;) until that point expect more and more people doing the same thing, untill there is no more milk.

another way to get rich:

get a site developed with a nice webmaster program, and use rich's sig to promote it :thumbsup

(it should be up in 2 or 3 more days)

:1orglaugh :thumbsup

doesn't matter what you tell people.
only 2-3% of people are smart enough
and creative enough to make money. period.

the rest are sheep following the herd to the feed.

i've got a cookie cutter plan i follow
to launch and build paysites for photographers.
its worked over and over again and made
rich guys out of poor peasants (aka artists).

i could give this plan out to a thousand
newbies and only a few would make it.
its the way of the world..

:2 cents: :2 cents:

Yes, IF. Otherwise no.