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Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:27 PM

I got a dead TGP with 30 hits a day and got an ACACIA packet today
 
CMON now what the fuck is this nonsense. My tgp I havent updated or looked at for months. How they find me? Those fuckers must have been readin GFY for the last year atleast. I post NO were else. Any thoughts?:321GFY

AdultNex 07-30-2003 06:29 PM

Ouch.

Gutterboy 07-30-2003 06:29 PM

:1orglaugh

retards. hopefully homegrown is reading this.. more evidence that this is a blind, desperate ploy to leech money from the adult industry.

directfiesta 07-30-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
CMON now what the fuck is this nonsense. My tgp I havent updated or looked at for months. How they find me? Those fuckers must have been readin GFY for the last year atleast. I post NO were else. Any thoughts?:321GFY
Have a few sites, with the word " video" in the actual url... got nothing. Never posted my email, icq or url on a bulletin board.

Maybe they use keywords to find sites, then whois ...

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:31 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
:1orglaugh

retards. hopefully homegrown is reading this.. more evidence that this is a blind, desperate ploy to leech money from the adult industry.

Im talkin to berman as I write this

Houdini 07-30-2003 06:31 PM

Did you have movies on it or just linking to galleries with them?

Sly_RJ 07-30-2003 06:33 PM

This seems like evidence that they're sending blanket packets instead of targeting offending webmasters, like they claimed to do yesterday. Furthermore, how can a simple TGP be breaking any of the patent restrictions that he described yesterday?

Fucking ridiculous. Email [email protected] as soon as you can. I'm sure he'll love this.

I'm waiting for the day I get a packet, I'll roll over laughing...

Tex Willer 07-30-2003 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
I got a dead TGP with 30 hits a day...
and funny username :winkwink:

boobmaster 07-30-2003 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
CMON now what the fuck is this nonsense. My tgp I havent updated or looked at for months. How they find me? Those fuckers must have been readin GFY for the last year atleast. I post NO were else. Any thoughts?:321GFY
This Acacia packet is starting to sound more and more like a spam emailing.

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:39 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
This seems like evidence that they're sending blanket packets instead of targeting offending webmasters, like they claimed to do yesterday. Furthermore, how can a simple TGP be breaking any of the patent restrictions that he described yesterday?

Fucking ridiculous. Email [email protected] as soon as you can. I'm sure he'll love this.

I'm waiting for the day I get a packet, I'll roll over laughing...

I have goo-girls movie-drive links! He told me to sign the agreement cause hes gonna track me and all my sites down and file a class action lawsuit against me.:321GFY

Sly_RJ 07-30-2003 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day


I have goo-girls movie-drive links! He told me to sign the agreement cause hes gonna track me and all my sites down and file a class action lawsuit against me.:321GFY

Yesterday he stated that affiliates would not be charged, nor would they need to sign the agreement. Only paysites and various other "high end" people.

So there you have it boys and girls, everything in the interview yesterday was a complete lie. Exercise extreme caution before signing anything.

Nah, fuck it, don't sign jack. That rat bastard pulled a sweet little PR stunt and now several people are already considering signing, without thinking twice about their affiliates.

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:44 PM

emailed spike. This Berman fuck got me a little hot under the collar. But I will survive. He just such an arrogant fuckin piece of shit. I had to hang up on him I had no other choice.:glugglug

Spunky 07-30-2003 06:48 PM

cough *Bullshit* cough

boobmaster 07-30-2003 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
emailed spike. This Berman fuck got me a little hot under the collar. But I will survive. He just such an arrogant fuckin piece of shit. I had to hang up on him I had no other choice.:glugglug
You CALLED him? Details .....

tootie 07-30-2003 06:53 PM

OMG, and I thought Acacia was an organization of clueless people BEFORE I read this... this is unbelievable. There is NO WAY I would sign one of those. Do they realize that a ton of the people they've sent packets to don't even make the $1500 or whatever minimum in a whole month? Why are they going after sites like this? Seriously, this is crazy. This is just some blind campaign to scare people and to gain credibility... but the joke's on them.

Gutterboy 07-30-2003 06:55 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Yesterday he stated that affiliates would not be charged, nor would they need to sign the agreement. Only paysites and various other "high end" people.

So there you have it boys and girls, everything in the interview yesterday was a complete lie. Exercise extreme caution before signing anything.

Nah, fuck it, don't sign jack. That rat bastard pulled a sweet little PR stunt and now several people are already considering signing, without thinking twice about their affiliates.

Post of the day.

Juicy D. Links 07-30-2003 06:56 PM

LMFAO i cant belive they senbt you one

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:56 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster


You CALLED him? Details .....

I called ACACIA and talked with BERMAN. YES what I stated above is the truth. I am holding the glossy purple packet in my hand now. NO bullshit here. They found my dead tgp and did a whois cause I moved since i registered the domain and the post office forwarded it. I asked him how I made the list and he said he has people scouring the net on a daily basis. I have no need to waste my typing making this shit up. I was just amazed that I got a packet in the mail today. I have been home for less than 30 minutes. Just walked in the door:321GFY

Spunky 07-30-2003 06:56 PM

Why would they go after a small TGP with 500 people per day? Thats bullshit. Until I hear from my sponsors to remove the links or I start seeing other MGPs shutting down. I'm calling Bullshit on this .

boobmaster 07-30-2003 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


Maybe they use keywords to find sites, then whois ...

I KNOW they use whois. They sent my packet to my old address. The whois will show my address. All my sponsors have my new address.

Gutterboy 07-30-2003 06:58 PM

Sign a license agreement giving them 2% of the $0.25 your TGP makes a year, then post it.

boobmaster 07-30-2003 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
Acacia is gay....


and I DARE them to send me a packet. :)

You're just looking for a fight, aren't ya?

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 06:59 PM

He asked gross revenue and I told him 100 bucks. Then i made an offer to send him his 2%. He didnt like that at all. He kept calling me "bud". Hes readin this right now the little weasel fucker. :321GFY

Strife 07-30-2003 06:59 PM

seriously? damn that's just fucked up on their part..

Gutterboy 07-30-2003 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
He asked gross revenue and I told him 100 bucks. Then i made an offer to send him his 2%. He didnt like that at all. He kept calling me "bud". Hes readin this right now the little weasel fucker. :321GFY
I'm beginning to have homicidal impulses. Time for a beer.

Juicy D. Links 07-30-2003 07:00 PM

I am still laughing yooooooooooooooooooo no offense

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Strife
seriously? damn that's just fucked up on their part..
Look man everything on gfy is not a fuckin joke ok! I got this fuckin packet in my fuckin hand right now. WTF

Flow 07-30-2003 07:02 PM

As he said in the interview, they are suing people that blow them off. I would say draft a let telling them this and you will be in the clear.

Flow
:2 cents:

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:02 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
I am still laughing yooooooooooooooooooo no offense
Its all good juice, I am just still in shock. The crack up is mysql is fucked up and I couldnt update or remove the links if I wanted to right now. I havent updated in 4 months. TGP's arent for me and its just sitting there dead:1orglaugh

Spunky 07-30-2003 07:06 PM

Thats why you get anonymous on your whois with your registration service.

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1
Thats why you get anonymous on your whois with your registration service.
I do now. Godaddy with Domains by proxy:thumbsup

boobmaster 07-30-2003 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
He asked gross revenue and I told him 100 bucks. Then i made an offer to send him his 2%. He didnt like that at all. He kept calling me "bud". Hes readin this right now the little weasel fucker. :321GFY
This is unbelievable. How the FUCK does he know HOW much you made? Is he gonna get a court order to force you to open your books or something? This is a joke! I'm assuming that you have no video on your sites whatsoever and that you do not run a pay site. Correct? So he must be going after you for LINKING to a site containing video. Did you ask him HOW simply linking to a site offering video infringes on their patents?

PS - If Mr. Berman IS reading this we're all gonna probably end up having to defend a defamation suit! I LOVE AMERICA. :)

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by boobmaster


This is unbelievable. How the FUCK does he know HOW much you made? Is he gonna get a court order to force you to open your books or something? This is a joke! I'm assuming that you have no video on your sites whatsoever and that you do not run a pay site. Correct? So he must be going after you for LINKING to a site containing video. Did you ask him HOW simply linking to a site offering video infringes on their patents?

PS - If Mr. Berman IS reading this we're all gonna probably end up having to defend a defamation suit! I LOVE AMERICA. :)

Whats on the tgp are links to movie-drive Goo-Girls I have no paysite

Sly_RJ 07-30-2003 07:12 PM

There's no defamation suit to be had. Nobody is lying, are they?

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
There's no defamation suit to be had. Nobody is lying, are they?
Ck my phone records. We had our 13 minute conversation.

boobmaster 07-30-2003 07:14 PM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
There's no defamation suit to be had. Nobody is lying, are they?
I'm sure they would disagree with that point. On the other hand, how can you sue someone for defamation when they insult you in a room full of people who already hate you?

boobmaster 07-30-2003 07:15 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day


Ck my phone records. We had our 13 minute conversation.

PLEASE tell me you told him to fuck off and that you have it on tape. I'll send ya a hundred bucks for a copy. :)

LiveDose 07-30-2003 07:17 PM

I have the patent on defamation. You have my permission to call that leech whatever you want. I will overlook any royalties in this case...

:thumbsup

steffie 07-30-2003 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head


http://www.ampiezza.com/stuff/gfy.jpg


And I say it again, You are so fucking hot dude!!!

Me and my girlfriend are coming to Hawaii he he he

:Graucho

boobmaster 07-30-2003 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by tootie
OMG, and I thought Acacia was an organization of clueless people BEFORE I read this... this is unbelievable. There is NO WAY I would sign one of those. Do they realize that a ton of the people they've sent packets to don't even make the $1500 or whatever minimum in a whole month? Why are they going after sites like this? Seriously, this is crazy. This is just some blind campaign to scare people and to gain credibility... but the joke's on them.
That's EXACTLY why they're doing it. They seem to be under the misleading impression that EVERYONE in this biz is a friggin' millionaire. It is true that a lot of money has been made but the VAST MAJORITY of adult webmasters wouldn't be able to support themselves just from their sites. A lot of webmasters don'tr make the $1500.00 in a year.

Veterans Day 07-30-2003 07:20 PM

I really thought after i told him mysql is fucked and I couldnt update or remove the links along with the 100 bucks it makes he would be cool. But he was a serious prick about it. To top it off he wanted to talk on speaker phone with all his other jerk-off buddy's in the room. I guarantee he is reading this shit now.:321GFY

boobmaster 07-30-2003 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
I really thought after i told him mysql is fucked and I couldnt update or remove the links along with the 100 bucks it makes he would be cool. But he was a serious prick about it. To top it off he wanted to talk on speaker phone with all his other jerk-off buddy's in the room. I guarantee he is reading this shit now.:321GFY
I'm just waiting for them to decide that they should get a seperate licensing fee for each DOMAIN that you own.

LiveDose 07-30-2003 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by Veterans Day
I really thought after i told him mysql is fucked and I couldnt update or remove the links along with the 100 bucks it makes he would be cool. But he was a serious prick about it. To top it off he wanted to talk on speaker phone with all his other jerk-off buddy's in the room. I guarantee he is reading this shit now.:321GFY

Bro, if you're going to have phone contact with these fucks you should really let your legal counsel handle it. Never try and deal directly with a lawyer when you are contacted unless you are a lawyer yourself. Escpecially these greasey fuckers.

AdultKing 07-30-2003 07:35 PM

Acacia have made an ambit claim based on their belief they own all the patents necessary to say they own the process of sending video over the net.

They have not yet proved their claim, some people have signed licence agreements with Acacia however to do so is only to make the business decision that settling is easier than fighting.

Acacia do not own all the patents necessary to say they have complete ownership of the process of making video available on the net, they have a collection of patents that have undetermined value as no test has been made of their claims.

If you settle with Acacia, do so on the basis that (1) you are simply doing it as an initially low cost way to set the issue aside (2) that if the patents are invalidated or if it is proven that their collection of patents does not give them ownership of the process of streaming that any agreement you make is void.

Scootermuze 07-30-2003 08:32 PM

The guy said yesterday that they didn't come after webmaster affiliates, but dealt with the paysites that provided the feeds.

If you have no feeds on your site, just whip up a letter and inform them of this, and refer to the guy's statement, that is a matter of public record, about webmaster affiliates NOT being licensed. He also said that it is ILLEGAL to charge both the paysite and a webmaster affiliate for the same feed. Your sponsor/s have probably already been contacted.

If they then still demand that you pay, turn that information over to IMPA as it will be a blatent contradiction in the statements made by an Acacia representative.

And.. if they are trying to charge you and your sponsor, they are breaking the law.. as stated in their own words.

Spunky 07-30-2003 08:32 PM

:glugglug 50 Lying Bitches

sxk 07-30-2003 09:28 PM

Real quick question - have you contacted porno payouts?? It will be interesting to see what their response to you being sued for simply linking to their ad material. This could get real ugly real quick. If they were to win how would revenue be calculated from TGP and link sites that do not host movies but simply link to the ad materials..............hmmmmmmmmmmm.

boobmaster 07-30-2003 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by sxk
Real quick question - have you contacted porno payouts?? It will be interesting to see what their response to you being sued for simply linking to their ad material. This could get real ugly real quick. If they were to win how would revenue be calculated from TGP and link sites that do not host movies but simply link to the ad materials..............hmmmmmmmmmmm.
They don't care. They probably want 2% of everything you make however you make it? If one of your parents dies and you get an insurance check, I'm sure they'll try to get 2% of that too.

besterman 07-30-2003 09:59 PM

just to understand - their claimed patents are for streaming videos only as in streaming a video in a windows media player plugin in your browser?

Mr.Fiction 07-30-2003 10:09 PM

Who will be the first adult company to sue Acacia?


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