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SKULL 07-25-2003 05:12 AM

Best Soccer Player in History?
 
Who in your opinion is the best Futbol player in History?

imo Pele was a complete soccer player, but Maradona and Johan Cruyff were artistic and joyful to watch. Franz Beckenbauer in the other hand was amazing in his position as well attacking...

:)

kad 07-25-2003 05:21 AM

Pfft.

No Gianfranco Zola?

I spit on this poll! :)

SKULL 07-25-2003 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kad
Pfft.

No Gianfranco Zola?

I spit on this poll! :)

You must be kidding aren't you.. lol Zola is a great player but there is now way you can compare him with any of the futbol stars in the poll....

ServerGenius 07-25-2003 05:27 AM

Johan Cruyff for sure.....best skilled and charismatic player
also not just an artist with a ball but also a very tactical team
player.....A Legend with a vision.

DynaMite

TheViper 07-25-2003 05:30 AM

Johan Cruyff was a star player :thumbsup

Jer 07-25-2003 05:49 AM

Pelé

funkmaster 07-25-2003 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kad
Pfft.

No Gianfranco Zola?

I spit on this poll! :)

... isn´t that the guy that came into the 94´semifinal in the 72th minute and got a red card 2 min later ?

Krome 07-25-2003 05:52 AM

Maradonna would vote for George Best....

Lee 07-25-2003 06:28 AM

George Best probably

ADL Colin 07-25-2003 06:30 AM

Pelé

chodadog 07-25-2003 06:31 AM

George Best should definitley be on that list. But Pele, without a doubt.

He-Man 07-25-2003 06:34 AM

I think that most of you chose Pele, because you think you should have. How many of you saw a whole game of him? I know I didn't.

Lee 07-25-2003 06:44 AM

Pele was the complete centre forward but Im not sure if he was as good an all round footballer as Best, Cruyff or Maradona.

Another great centre forward who I would mention would have to be Marco Van Basten. IMO the real star of the great Dutch team of the late eighties & a real tragedy that he had to give up due to injury :(

eiht_98 07-25-2003 06:44 AM

Maradona...no doubt...genius

Thrawn$ 07-25-2003 06:45 AM

Zidane

Troels 07-25-2003 08:01 AM

Zidane is 2nd to none today. No doubt about that.

Also, can anyone tell me why Michael Laudrup never won any footballer of the year awards???

Lazio, Juventus, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Ajax Amsterdam.
That's FUCKING impressive!

I think maybe only Ronaldo can compete with his CV:
Inter, PSV, Real Madrid, Barcelona... I'm missing one right?

dd2 07-25-2003 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Troels
I think maybe only Ronaldo can compete with his CV:
Inter, PSV, Real Madrid, Barcelona... I'm missing one right?

http://www.r9ronaldo.com/eng/career.html

Paul Markham 07-25-2003 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by He-Man
I think that most of you chose Pele, because you think you should have. How many of you saw a whole game of him? I know I didn't.
I saw him play twice in real. Once in 1966 and then in 1972 I think, plus numourous times on the TV.

He was head and shoulders above Maradona and better than Cruyff. Neither were as good as George Best, if he had played for England he would of been in that list. He would have been second, he destroyed defenders.

Beckenbauer was good and solid and very good at the back and going forward. But not in the same league as Pele, Best and Cruyff.

None of the modern players come anywhere near them because it's now too organised and disciplined for the individual to shine as much, defenses are more organised as well.

Scott McD 07-25-2003 08:20 AM

Henrik Larsson !!




And yes I'm biast... :)

res 07-25-2003 08:28 AM

Maradona the best !

Dax 07-25-2003 08:34 AM

Freddie Adu :Graucho

BigRingChuck 07-25-2003 09:07 AM

Pele for sure. Not only was he a class act on the field, but off the field as well.

Maradona was brilliant, but his "hand of god" bullshit in 86 was not classy, especially if you are English. The whole coke head shooting BB guns at journalists thing further tarnished his career.

geps 07-25-2003 09:11 AM

pele is the best player... he innovated.. created...

maradona was great too... but not as great... plus his image out of field is totaly burned...

:2 cents:

SKULL 07-25-2003 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
I saw him play twice in real. Once in 1966 and then in 1972 I think, plus numourous times on the TV.

He was head and shoulders above Maradona and better than Cruyff. Neither were as good as George Best, if he had played for England he would of been in that list. He would have been second, he destroyed defenders.

Beckenbauer was good and solid and very good at the back and going forward. But not in the same league as Pele, Best and Cruyff.

None of the modern players come anywhere near them because it's now too organised and disciplined for the individual to shine as much, defenses are more organised as well.

I thougt of including Gerge Best and Michell Platini .... They are also great players...

hvidlogspusher 07-25-2003 09:28 AM

Peter Schmeichel danish keeper during the most of the 90s was doing a clean sheet when Danmark won the european cup final against germany in 92 :) he was great and also selected world best goalkeeper a few times :)

Reak 07-25-2003 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jer
Pelé
Yep, he was great !

Reak

Nydahl 07-25-2003 09:58 AM

Karl Heinz Rumenige (not sure about spelling)

Giorgio_Xo 07-25-2003 09:59 AM

I saw Pele past his prime and Maradona during his prime. It is my firm belief that Pele was the better of the two day to day.

Both sucked at defense.

But...

I still voted for Maradona in this poll. He is the most gifted of the bunch. His second goal against England in Mexico 86 is still the most precious example of brilliance ever crafted.

BTW, the Big Three are Pele, Maradona, and DiStefano.

DiStefano with Real Madrid owned Europe in the 50s & 60s (10 Euro Championships).

XxXotic 07-25-2003 10:00 AM

pele, with diego a close 2nd :thumbsup

Poppy 07-25-2003 10:04 AM

P E L E

Yo Adrian 07-25-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Scott McD
Henrik Larsson !!




And yes I'm biast... :)


lol Larsson's good..

I'd have to say that Ronaldo is probably one of the best currently

SKULL 07-25-2003 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Giorgio_Xo


BTW, the Big Three are Pele, Maradona, and DiStefano.

DiStefano with Real Madrid owned Europe in the 50s & 60s (10 Euro Championships).

I agree... should had put him too...

Corleone 07-25-2003 04:57 PM

PELE! ;)

he's a legend

SKULL 07-25-2003 06:21 PM

It looks like Pele is winning this one .. :)

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2003 06:27 PM

I vote for Pele


even though he has erection problems.

Anyone have his email? I got some great products to send him :)

completetosser 07-25-2003 06:32 PM

George Best - although I am slightly biased. How Beckenbauer is on your list is beyond me - Bobby Moore was a far better player in the same position (although I wouldn't have him on the list ). I'd also agree with DiStefano as being one of the greats who should be on the list.

BlueDesignStudios 07-25-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser
George Best - although I am slightly biased. How Beckenbauer is on your list is beyond me - Bobby Moore was a far better player in the same position (although I wouldn't have him on the list ). I'd also agree with DiStefano as being one of the greats who should be on the list.
I'd have to agree with you, even though you'r a complete tosser

natas 07-25-2003 07:08 PM

:1orglaugh

SKULL 07-25-2003 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by completetosser
George Best - although I am slightly biased. How Beckenbauer is on your list is beyond me - Bobby Moore was a far better player in the same position (although I wouldn't have him on the list ). I'd also agree with DiStefano as being one of the greats who should be on the list.
Are you from Great Britain by any chance? :evil-laug

Ian 07-25-2003 08:56 PM

George Best might have been the greatest but self destructed with booze, drugs and women from an early age.

It's a stretch to pick anyone other than Pele. :)

kmanrox 07-25-2003 08:59 PM

Pele, duh

Cogitator 07-25-2003 09:09 PM

Maradona played like a fucking faggot the last world cup (or was it the one before?) I'm getting old..

Theo 07-25-2003 09:13 PM

Johan Cruyff

miracle man

Theo 07-25-2003 09:23 PM

Johan Cruyff was facing some of the best european soccer teams of all the time. On the other hand, if you exclude the WC, Pele was dealing mainly with brazilian soccer teams. Brazilian teams were and they still are hard, but their level is much lower than the one of europeans.

Cruyff played in '70s were the defense was much more complicated than in '50s and '60s when Pele was the big star.

SKULL 07-25-2003 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cogitator
Maradona played like a fucking faggot the last world cup (or was it the one before?) I'm getting old..
Italy 1990 and USA 1994

brazz 07-26-2003 02:34 PM

This sounds like a joke to me.

Pelé was ellected in 1980 "The Athlete of The Century" (not just the football player, but the athlete); the voters certainly knew Cruyff, Backenbauer, di Stefano and all the others who played before Pelé (including all Olympic heroes).
Maradona himself recognized how far down he was from Pelé; all the above mentioned stars also bowed to Pelé. The man scored over 1,300 goals, and he retired from serious football at age 30 (he played in the USA for a few years just for the $$$); he was direct responsible for three World Cups (you certainly watched the goals he did in Sweden when he was aged 17); to date, he retains all the records in Brazilian statistics (was his team weaker? Santos - the name of his team - won several tournaments against Real Madrid, Milan, whatever the best European teams in the 60s).
Every now and then we younger Brazilian hear stories about him: 1) Santos was playing in another country, referee sends Pelé off; the crowd yells, the referee is dismissed, Pelé is called back to continue playing
2) A war between two African countries was temporarily halted, because Santos was going to play over there; only condition for the cease fire: Santos would have to play in both countries
3) Pelé was about to score his 1,000th goal, and went to play in a small city; match is on, Pelé would score, a defense man prevents the goal; next day, the defense is fired for, because of him, the city didn´t enter the History of football
4) Pelé met more Kings and Presidents than most anyone; Elizabeth made him Knight of Britain; the Pope bowed to him

Is there any doubt that Michael Jordan is the best basketball player ever? Likewise, there is no doubt that Pelé is the best football player ever.

bushwacker 07-26-2003 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brazz
This sounds like a joke to me.

Pelé was ellected in 1980 "The Athlete of The Century" (not just the football player, but the athlete); the voters certainly knew Cruyff, Backenbauer, di Stefano and all the others who played before Pelé (including all Olympic heroes).
Maradona himself recognized how far down he was from Pelé; all the above mentioned stars also bowed to Pelé. The man scored over 1,300 goals, and he retired from serious football at age 30 (he played in the USA for a few years just for the $$$); he was direct responsible for three World Cups (you certainly watched the goals he did in Sweden when he was aged 17); to date, he retains all the records in Brazilian statistics (was his team weaker? Santos - the name of his team - won several tournaments against Real Madrid, Milan, whatever the best European teams in the 60s).
Every now and then we younger Brazilian hear stories about him: 1) Santos was playing in another country, referee sends Pelé off; the crowd yells, the referee is dismissed, Pelé is called back to continue playing
2) A war between two African countries was temporarily halted, because Santos was going to play over there; only condition for the cease fire: Santos would have to play in both countries
3) Pelé was about to score his 1,000th goal, and went to play in a small city; match is on, Pelé would score, a defense man prevents the goal; next day, the defense is fired for, because of him, the city didn´t enter the History of football
4) Pelé met more Kings and Presidents than most anyone; Elizabeth made him Knight of Britain; the Pope bowed to him

Is there any doubt that Michael Jordan is the best basketball player ever? Likewise, there is no doubt that Pelé is the best football player ever.



What he said:thumbsup


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