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Free_your_mind 07-20-2003 06:05 PM

Nastydollars is shaving like hell..
 
Hello,

í just want to warn all webmasters wich are promoting this company or if you are lucky , you´ve already noticed in your stats that there might be something wrong in their affilitate software..

AND NO, I DON´T HAVE SHIT TRAFFIC AND MY GALLERY DESIGN IS ALSO OK!!

yesterday my gallery went online on thehun (paied spot). Till this minute i got 1200 unique hits on my sponsor Nastydollars, and guess what ----- NOT 1 FUCKING SIGNUP!!! ------

On a top thehun listing, not only 1 signup! This is almost impossible on 1200 unique clicks, 1200 users who thought to join the page and not one did it! Really scarry..
:warning

Ok, bad day, bad luck i thought but then i´ve remembered that i signed up through a referal at nastydollars. 200$ my friend get per active webmaster he refferes to Nastydollars

Now i´m putting 1+1 together and i get this:

If ND pays 200$ for a reffered webmaster, they don´t count signups from this new account until the 200$ is reached. Like in my case.. i´m sure, that i min. had 3 signups on a hun posting - But what can ordinary webmaster like me do? Stroke my dig and jerking off on blank stats page :mad:

But in hell god will stick all fooled webmasters like me into your asshole Nastydollars! One day you are dead and then say to god why you shaved poor webmasters .... I really believe in a judgement after death and i hope for you Nastydollars Staff you don´t piss of in this moment!

FlyingIguana 07-20-2003 06:07 PM

judgement day is coming motherfuckers haha

Why 07-20-2003 06:08 PM

i thought everyone shaved!

they tell you to send test sign ups. but doing so could be construed as fraud, and i have seen it looked at as fraud like that on more then one occasion.

Gimmy 07-20-2003 06:08 PM

my popcorn is almost ready :glugglug

GrimShawn 07-20-2003 06:09 PM

2 things 1 everyone is shaving 2 everyone is shaving!

FI is correct judgment day is coming the greed of people pulling fraud on CC processors is going to and has already fucked it for everyone. It's porn we draw enough heat as it is, do we all need to scam and try to get ahead?

Pornkings 07-20-2003 06:09 PM

Dude Just free your mind man....

Jensen 07-20-2003 06:09 PM

0:1200 on tgp traffic and your complaining about shaving? WHAT? :1orglaugh

Free_your_mind 07-20-2003 06:12 PM

on THEHUN not on a trading tgp!

every fucking gallery get min. 3 signups even if it´s on the last link spot!

Veterans Day 07-20-2003 06:13 PM

I got 24 sign ups on my shemale gallery listed on the hun. Free listing half way down the page. Pushin the same fuckin ND shit is half your reason why your ratios suck ASS man. Get a sticky niche. The shemale community is some loyal mother fuckers:glugglug

SomeCreep 07-20-2003 06:15 PM

Ratios were really bad for me on 7-16-03 and 7-17-03 with ND, anyone else?

Looks like things are back to normal now.

Rich 07-20-2003 06:19 PM

Part of the problem is that you're promoting the same shit that's at the top of the Hun every fucking day. The other part is no doubt that ND shaves like mad.

Veterans Day 07-20-2003 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Part of the problem is that you're promoting the same shit that's at the top of the Hun every fucking day. The other part is no doubt that ND shaves like mad.
NO fuckin shit. End this thread its old school knowledge. Next.....

malakajoe 07-20-2003 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Free_your_mind
Hello,

í just want to warn all webmasters wich are promoting this company or if you are lucky , you´ve already noticed in your stats that there might be something wrong in their affilitate software..

AND NO, I DON´T HAVE SHIT TRAFFIC AND MY GALLERY DESIGN IS ALSO OK!!

yesterday my gallery went online on thehun (paied spot). Till this minute i got 1200 unique hits on my sponsor Nastydollars, and guess what ----- NOT 1 FUCKING SIGNUP!!! ------

On a top thehun listing, not only 1 signup! This is almost impossible on 1200 unique clicks, 1200 users who thought to join the page and not one did it! Really scarry..
:warning

Ok, bad day, bad luck i thought but then i´ve remembered that i signed up through a referal at nastydollars. 200$ my friend get per active webmaster he refferes to Nastydollars

Now i´m putting 1+1 together and i get this:

If ND pays 200$ for a reffered webmaster, they don´t count signups from this new account until the 200$ is reached. Like in my case.. i´m sure, that i min. had 3 signups on a hun posting - But what can ordinary webmaster like me do? Stroke my dig and jerking off on blank stats page :mad:

But in hell god will stick all fooled webmasters like me into your asshole Nastydollars! One day you are dead and then say to god why you shaved poor webmasters .... I really believe in a judgement after death and i hope for you Nastydollars Staff you don´t piss of in this moment!

This dude isn't real, is he? 1200 unique hits? That is shit.

SomeCreep 07-20-2003 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Part of the problem is that you're promoting the same shit that's at the top of the Hun every fucking day. The other part is no doubt that ND shaves like mad.
Uhm wait, think through what you just said... Why would ND be posted at the top of the Hun every fucking day if they shaved like mad?

Veterans Day 07-20-2003 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep


Uhm wait, think through what you just said... Why would ND be posted at the top of the Hun every fucking day if they shaved like mad?

Cause alot of lame asses on here dont want to hear shave. They just push whos check is the biggest. Wright or wrong its true

Gimmy 07-20-2003 06:31 PM

Big Players Shave :)

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Cause alot of lame asses on here dont want to hear shave. They just push whos check is the biggest. Wright or wrong its true

The object isn't to get the biggest check for a certain amount of traffic?

Shit, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

Pipecrew 07-20-2003 06:34 PM

I use to send them alot of traffic and i didnt have great ratios, now i just leave a text link on my site that says

"Milf Hunter" usually get a signup a day from it, nothing big, and the ratios are like 1:36

Free_your_mind 07-20-2003 06:40 PM

I´ve promoted in this gallery m´s appartment :mad:

saltricter 07-20-2003 06:41 PM

I haven't made shit for sales with ND. But to be fair im pushing their shit on sublimedriectory and those surfers have seen those site more than enough already. im at about 0:500 on them.

SomeCreep 07-20-2003 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Cause alot of lame asses on here dont want to hear shave. They just push whos check is the biggest. Wright or wrong its true

k, that makes sense to you? Why would their checks be the "biggest" if they shaved??

angelsofporn 07-20-2003 07:00 PM

start your own paysite and dont worry about that junk anymore

completetosser 07-20-2003 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


The object isn't to get the biggest check for a certain amount of traffic?

Shit, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

LMAO :) :)

arial 07-20-2003 07:04 PM

I'm doing 1:114 right now, they seem to be liking me I guess.

BradShaw 07-20-2003 07:06 PM

Overall we do very well with them.

Sly_RJ 07-20-2003 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day

Cause alot of lame asses on here dont want to hear shave. They just push whos check is the biggest. Wright or wrong its true

Now this is some funny shit. Who would imagine, people continue pushing the sponsor who gives the biggest check. No way!

Backov 07-20-2003 07:38 PM

Great sponsor. Never really noticed them shaving.

sacX 07-20-2003 07:45 PM

who gives a shit if nastydollars shaves.

It's the bottom line, not the ratio that counts.. how much money turns up at the end of the day..

and as I and a few previous posters say ND do just great..

GotGauge 07-20-2003 07:48 PM

Good days and bad days........
Do you know how many ND galleries have been on the HUN?
MANY...

I have one company I constantly run 1:300-400 with,
for some reason since the 15th I am 0:6000.
Bad luck, old galleries, need new traffic source.
Many many reasons......

I highly doubt a big company like ND is shaving...

Check your linking code..
In fact show us your gallery, the one on thehun

Digipimp 07-20-2003 07:48 PM

In case you didn't know already, ND shaves clicks not signups, so your ratios stay at a decent number and they look like they convert.

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp
In case you didn't know already, ND shaves clicks not signups, so your ratios stay at a decent number and they look like they convert.
And this is relevant to the size of my check HOW?

GotGauge 07-20-2003 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


The object isn't to get the biggest check for a certain amount of traffic?

Shit, I've been doing it wrong all these years.

LOL, they will never learn..

Heck just the other day my bank started taking "ratios" for deposits!

Digipimp 07-20-2003 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


And this is relevant to the size of my check HOW?

You always have something to say to me don't you. I was just clarifying things for the guy. Right off you didn't think it all the way through, shaving signups is too easy and obvious the smarter guys shave your clicks. Why you say. Well look at it like this.

You think you have 3000 clicks to the join page according to their stats, but you have no way of tracking it, once it leaves your web page. They convert at 1:300 for this example so that's 10 singups. Now what if you actually had 4500 clicks, then you lost 5 signups or their ratio should have been 1:450. You as an affiliate need to know which one it is so you can judge whether to continue using them or not. This is just on a small scale of course more traffic means bigger things.

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


You always have something to say to me don't you. I was just clarifying things for the guy. Right off you didn't think it all the way through, shaving signups is too easy and obvious the smarter guys shave your clicks. Why you say. Well look at it like this.

You think you have 3000 clicks to the join page according to their stats, but you have no way of tracking it, once it leaves your web page. They convert at 1:300 for this example so that's 10 singups. Now what if you actually had 4500 clicks, then you lost 5 signups or their ratio should have been 1:450. You as an affiliate need to know which one it is so you can judge whether to continue using them or not. This is just on a small scale of course more traffic means bigger things.

I am still waiting on you to explain to me what relevance this has to the fact that our traffic goes to the program that cuts us the biggest check for that amount of traffic.

What part of my comments do you not understand?

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GotGauge


LOL, they will never learn..

Heck just the other day my bank started taking "ratios" for deposits!

Mine did too, but only for second page uniques ;)

slackologist 07-20-2003 07:59 PM

Start your own paysite.

Sly_RJ 07-20-2003 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


I am still waiting on you to explain to me what relevance this has to the fact that our traffic goes to the program that cuts us the biggest check for that amount of traffic.

What part of my comments do you not understand?

He never said it did have relevance. He was commenting on the shaving issue.

Digipimp 07-20-2003 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


I am still waiting on you to explain to me what relevance this has to the fact that our traffic goes to the program that cuts us the biggest check for that amount of traffic.

What part of my comments do you not understand?

You're not saying anything relevant to what I'm saying then are you? You're just trying to appear smart and cute. :321GFY I was just telling the guy to look at it differently, I don't have a problem with ND myself.

Digipimp 07-20-2003 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

He never said it did have relevance. He was commenting on the shaving issue.

Exactly bro, good to see some people around here still have comprehension skills.

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

He never said it did have relevance. He was commenting on the shaving issue.

Sly, you know good and well that shaving clicks does not matter to the size of the checks. IF someone is shaving clicks then the ratios appear BETTER, you aren't losing sales to it necessarily.

This is the simplest of math, and the easiest thing to do.

Unless of course your bank has started allowing you to deposit second page uniques.

Sly_RJ 07-20-2003 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Sly, you know good and well that shaving clicks does not matter to the size of the checks. IF someone is shaving clicks then the ratios appear BETTER, you aren't losing sales to it necessarily.

This is the simplest of math, and the easiest thing to do.

Unless of course your bank has started allowing you to deposit second page uniques.

Of course I know that darling, but you're missing what he was saying.

People are bitching about sales shaving. Digi says no, there's no sales shaving, but possible click shaving. He goes on to explain the reasoning behind click shaving.

Now you and I both know that a good chunk of webmasters care only about ratios. I still haven't figured out why, I just care about my deposit slip. However, due to these "silly" webmasters, ND MAY shave clicks to make ratios look better. Webmaster looks at "good" ratio and says "sweet! I'm going to continue sending traffic because I'm getting 1:300!"

It's all about perception and the manipulation of...

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 08:10 PM

yep Sly, I know... perception is reality. Education is different tho ;)

Sly_RJ 07-20-2003 08:12 PM

I've never been educated, so I wouldn't know about that...

Good ratios! Woohoo!

Digipimp 07-20-2003 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Of course I know that darling, but you're missing what he was saying.

People are bitching about sales shaving. Digi says no, there's no sales shaving, but possible click shaving. He goes on to explain the reasoning behind click shaving.

Now you and I both know that a good chunk of webmasters care only about ratios. I still haven't figured out why, I just care about my deposit slip. However, due to these "silly" webmasters, ND MAY shave clicks to make ratios look better. Webmaster looks at "good" ratio and says "sweet! I'm going to continue sending traffic because I'm getting 1:300!"

It's all about perception and the manipulation of...

Exactly my point, a whole lot of webmasters, I would even say the majority see it that way Sly.

Choker 07-20-2003 08:15 PM

My ratios with ND vary day to day, but overall every month is pretty much the same. ND is one of the few programs I get consistant results from. They are a big part of my programs. :thumbsup

Kimmykim 07-20-2003 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Digipimp


Exactly my point, a whole lot of webmasters, I would even say the majority see it that way Sly.

I would hope they all do, that way they can chase ratios and the rest of us can cash checks.

Digipimp 07-20-2003 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


I would hope they all do, that way they can chase ratios and the rest of us can cash checks.

I know so stop fighting with me damnit! :Graucho

some_idiot 07-20-2003 09:25 PM

I don't know what you are bitching about...

I'm 5 days into a period and doing 1:70 !

I think they finally fixed the accounting problems.

ANYONE that says NS shaves doesn't read there news screen. They publish every billing problem they have.
(think you're missing a few sales, email em)


If you want a sweety that will waste time talking to you in email instead of you actually working ...hit the button in the sig. Otherwise GET to work.
(actually Angel sells well)

Ray@TastyDollars 07-20-2003 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jensen
0:1200 on tgp traffic and your complaining about shaving? WHAT? :1orglaugh
1:177 this pay period with 100% TGP. Yea what can I say, 1:177 aint all that great but it is summer yea know :1orglaugh

Pornkings 07-20-2003 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Of course I know that darling, but you're missing what he was saying.

People are bitching about sales shaving. Digi says no, there's no sales shaving, but possible click shaving. He goes on to explain the reasoning behind click shaving.

Now you and I both know that a good chunk of webmasters care only about ratios. I still haven't figured out why, I just care about my deposit slip. However, due to these "silly" webmasters, ND MAY shave clicks to make ratios look better. Webmaster looks at "good" ratio and says "sweet! I'm going to continue sending traffic because I'm getting 1:300!"

It's all about perception and the manipulation of...

Yea most webmasters look at the payout and the conversion.

they don't look at what they make from a sponsor at the end of the day.

Personally If I couldn't track what I'm sending out I would send traffic to every sponsor and see who makes me the most in a day or week. then blast him more traffic.

I could care less about what the payout is or what the hits are.

But it does help to gauge how each sponsor does if they don'ty shave.
I guess you need to meet your sponsors or trust them.

if you don't then you shouldn't bitch.

:2 cents:


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