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Gutterboy 07-20-2003 01:44 PM

Armstrong going down?
 
Top british oddsmaking house says that Ullrich is now the favorite.

If Lance can't put a minute + into Ullrich on the climb to Luz Ardiden tomorrow, its likely over.

I wouldn't be surprised if Vinokourov takes the yellow jersey tomorrow then loses it to Ullrich in the final time trial.

Wilbo 07-20-2003 02:07 PM

Armstrong said he lost 15 lbs from dehydration in the time trial. He expects to improve with every day. I hope he attacks and gets some time before they leave the mountains, but I think he can hold his own in the last time trial.

teenjump 07-20-2003 02:08 PM

Neil Armstrong is god.

hottoddy 07-20-2003 02:08 PM

Sure it could happen. We all know you're praying for it.

wargames 07-20-2003 02:09 PM

Thats cool

Gutterboy 07-20-2003 02:14 PM

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Originally posted by Wilbo
Armstrong said he lost 15 lbs from dehydration in the time trial. He expects to improve with every day. I hope he attacks and gets some time before they leave the mountains, but I think he can hold his own in the last time trial.
I heard that also, but I think he's bullshitting. Dropping 15lbs of water is nearly 10% of his bodyweight, which is quite often fatal. At the very least he would have been too incapacitated by the fluid loss to ride a bike.

Plan9 07-20-2003 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy


I heard that also, but I think he's bullshitting. 15lbs would be nearly 10% of his bodyweight, which can be fatal. At the very least he would have been too incapacitated by the fluid loss to ride a bike.

Dont boxers do stuff like that all the time, then put it back on right after the weigh-in?

Gutterboy 07-20-2003 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9


Dont boxers do stuff like that all the time, then put it back on right after the weigh-in?

To some extent, yeah, but I don't think they drop 10% of their bodyweight. Losing that much water requires a night or two in the hospital on an IV to fix.

And of course, they don't ride bikes at nearly 30mph in 100 degree temperatures while dehydrated.

funkmaster 07-20-2003 02:45 PM

... Iīd love to see ulrich winning, but I donīt think he will win the final time trial again as armstrong can do better than he showed 3 days ago. he must attack tomorrow and close the 15 seconds gap.

... whatever happens, itīs the best tour de france in ages ... 3 guys can win it this time and I am not going to put money on it !!

Gutterboy 07-20-2003 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by funkmaster
... whatever happens, itīs the best tour de france in ages ... 3 guys can win it this time and I am not going to put money on it !!
I'd like to see LA do 5 in a row. Even six is possible. But Lance is 31, and no TdF winner in modern history has won one past their 31st birthday. Still, I don't think his problems this year are all age related decline. Something else is definitely going on.

I agree about the excitement though! For the last few years, when Lance would put 5 minutes into his nearest rival on the first TT and mountain stage, the Pyrenees and second half of the race had the feeling of being nothing more than a formality. This year a billion + people in 150 countries will be on the edge of their seats tomorrow as the race approaches the last mountaintop finish.

funkmaster 07-20-2003 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy

This year a billion + people in 150 countries will be on the edge of their seats tomorrow as the race approaches the last mountaintop finish.

... and guess what, my son has an appointment at the doctor at 4 p.m (just about the time when the attacks start) .... for fuck sake, I hope they have a TV there !


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