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MrPopup 07-18-2003 11:49 AM

UN Wants US Out
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/3078875.stm

UN chief 'seeks Iraqi handover'

The United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan is set to call for a swift handover of sovereignty to the Iraqi people, the BBC has learned.

The recommendations are contained in a report due to be presented to the UN Security Council next week, a copy of which has been obtained by the BBC.

spam4spam 07-18-2003 11:50 AM

Who the fuck is kofi annan?> Do you take orders from someone you nor I have control over? Is Kofi annan your leader?

Xplicit 07-18-2003 11:51 AM

Too bad the UN is a complete joke.

Who fucking cares?

MrPopup 07-18-2003 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by spam4spam
Who the fuck is kofi annan?> Do you take orders from someone you nor I have control over? Is Kofi annan your leader?
The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.
States first established international organizations to <b>cooperate</b> on specific matters. The International Telecommunication Union was founded in 1865 as the International Telegraph Union, and the Universal Postal Union was established in 1874. Both are now United Nations specialized agencies.

In 1899, the International Peace Conference was held in The Hague to elaborate instruments for settling crises peacefully, preventing wars and codifying rules of warfare. It adopted the Convention for the Pacific Settlement of International Disputes and established the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which began work in 1902.

The forerunner of the United Nations was the League of Nations, an organization conceived in similar circumstances during the first World War, and established in 1919 under the Treaty of Versailles "to promote international cooperation and to achieve peace and security." The International Labour Organization was also created under the Treaty of Versailles as an affiliated agency of the League. The League of Nations ceased its activities after failing to prevent the Second World War.

In 1945, representatives of 50 countries met in San Francisco at the United Nations Conference on International Organization to draw up the United Nations Charter. Those delegates deliberated on the basis of proposals worked out by the representatives of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States at Dumbarton Oaks, United States in August-October 1944. The Charter was signed on 26 June 1945 by the representatives of the 50 countries. Poland, which was not represented at the Conference, signed it later and became one of the original 51 Member States.

The United Nations officially came into existence on 24 October 1945, when the Charter had been ratified by China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and by a majority of other signatories. United Nations Day is celebrated on 24 October each year.

funkmaster 07-18-2003 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by Xplicit
Too bad the UN is a complete joke.

Who fucking cares?

... the US does, becasue without the help of the UN you guys will expirience another vietnam ... you can bomb, but you canīt run a country ...

spam4spam 07-18-2003 11:59 AM

Maybe you should read the United Nations history. Once before the UN was named " The League of Nations". That's terminated by the way for not responding.

pauliewalnutz 07-18-2003 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, was first used in the "Declaration by United Nations" of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.
States first established international organizations to <b>cooperate</b> on specific matters. The International Telecommunication Union was founded in 1865 as the International Telegraph Union, and the Universal Postal Union was established in 1874. Both are now United Nations specialized agencies.

In 1899, the International Peace Conference was held in The Hague to elaborate instruments for settling crises peacefully, preventing wars and codifying rules of warfare. It adopted the Convention for the Pacific Settlement of International Disputes and established the Permanent Court of Arbitration, which began work in 1902.

The forerunner of the United Nations was the League of Nations, an organization conceived in similar circumstances during the first World War, and established in 1919 under the Treaty of Versailles "to promote international cooperation and to achieve peace and security." The International Labour Organization was also created under the Treaty of Versailles as an affiliated agency of the League. The League of Nations ceased its activities after failing to prevent the Second World War.

In 1945, representatives of 50 countries met in San Francisco at the United Nations Conference on International Organization to draw up the United Nations Charter. Those delegates deliberated on the basis of proposals worked out by the representatives of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States at Dumbarton Oaks, United States in August-October 1944. The Charter was signed on 26 June 1945 by the representatives of the 50 countries. Poland, which was not represented at the Conference, signed it later and became one of the original 51 Member States.

The United Nations officially came into existence on 24 October 1945, when the Charter had been ratified by China, France, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, the United States and by a majority of other signatories. United Nations Day is celebrated on 24 October each year.


Jeez, Didnt the UN not want us to go to war in Iraq? If we did not listen then we are not going to listen now.

More oil for US!

F the UN!

TheFLY 07-18-2003 12:09 PM

Hmmm... Shit I'm not sure what to say. I want a safe place to live here in the USA -- on the other hand I don't want our leaders to be fucking up the world with a renegade military and exporting weapons of mass destruction for $$$... Maybe US leaders see some serious economic troubles ahead due to globalization and this is just the only way they know how to deal with the problem? I think the real problem is that Americans are fucking spoiled and we need to get back to the our roots -- growing food and surviving without fucking Walmart... ???

spam4spam 07-18-2003 12:10 PM

WHy? You exploit women and people on the internet for food? Why can't they do it for all of us? maybe you should look at what business you work with and how shady the adult webmaster "business" is.

Centurion 07-18-2003 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spam4spam
Maybe you should read the United Nations history. Once before the UN was named " The League of Nations". That's terminated by the way for not responding.
You are terminally ignorant!

The United Nations did NOT use to be the League of Nations.
The League of Nations was formed after WWI. The United States Congress voted NAY on joining the League of Nations which killed it. It all but completely disappeared in the mid 1920s.

The United Nations was formed after **WWII**! We are one of the charter members of the U.N. (unlike the "League of Nations."

MrPopup 07-18-2003 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by spam4spam
WHy? You exploit women and people on the internet for food? Why can't they do it for all of us? maybe you should look at what business you work with and how shady the adult webmaster "business" is.
Any business is only as shady as the people who are involved. Perhaps you should take some reponsibility for your own actions instead of painting the webmaster industry with such a broad brush.

spam4spam 07-18-2003 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by spam4spam
Maybe you should read the United Nations history. Once before the UN was named " The League of Nations". That's terminated by the way for not responding.
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You are terminally ignorant!

The United Nations did NOT use to be the League of Nations.
The League of Nations was formed after WWI. The United States Congress voted NAY on joining the League of Nations which killed it. It all but completely disappeared in the mid 1920s.

The United Nations was formed after **WWII**! We are one of the charter members of the U.N. (unlike the "League of Nations."

The league of nations failed........It was the same thing as the UN. Just a new name. Can you name 10 things different about the two groups?




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Any business is only as shady as the people who are involved. Perhaps you should take some reponsibility for your own actions instead of painting the webmaster industry with such a broad brush.
Don't take offense to the bad people in our business. Everyday I can read something about someone being fucked over from this board. It's a shame but true.

cherrylula 07-18-2003 12:29 PM

funny cause they are getting ready to send more inspectors into Iran now too.

StuartD 07-18-2003 12:29 PM

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Originally posted by spam4spam
Don't take offense to the bad people in our business. Everyday I can read something about someone being fucked over from this board. It's a shame but true.
happens in every industry.. we just don't hear about it on this board.

ADL Colin 07-18-2003 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by MrPopup


States first established international organizations to <b>cooperate</b> on specific matters.

That's right. Now everyone cooperate with US ;-)

Brad Mitchell 07-18-2003 12:35 PM

Kofi Annan is a fucking asshole who cares what he says.

pauliewalnutz 07-18-2003 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup


Any business is only as shady as the people who are involved. Perhaps you should take some reponsibility for your own actions instead of painting the webmaster industry with such a broad brush.


RIGHT ON MRPOPUP.
:BangBang: :BangBang: :BangBang: :BangBang:

loverboy 07-18-2003 12:59 PM

who cares about Anan? since Saddam is still out there, Iraq is still at war until Saddam is eradicated, can UN do that?

SCJason 07-18-2003 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster


... the US does, becasue without the help of the UN you guys will expirience another vietnam ... you can bomb, but you canīt run a country ...

Yeah we are so far behind the rest of the world in running a country..........:1orglaugh .....I find it so interesting when MONKEYS learn to speak. UN has done wonders for the US. LOL Without the US the UN would not exist. All the rest of the countries in the world do not have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of in comparison. The fact of the matter is when the UN decides the "world" needs help, the US always take the bulk of the burden. So far all you NON US citizens......enjoy your free shit.(Food, medicine, machinery, engineering, PROTECTION from your regional "brothers" who wish to conquer your country) Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say thanks and be glad we give a fuck about keeping "OUR BITCHES" on the street. You are OWNED, from your leaders to your street sweepers, and can do nothing but talk about it. BTW.....Try and keep your country nice and clean , we may want to take it someday :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

directfiesta 07-18-2003 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by SCJason

I find it so interesting when MONKEYS learn to speak.

Obviously by personnal experience.

SCJason 07-18-2003 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta


Obviously by personnal experience.

Hush up boy !

ADL Colin 07-18-2003 02:25 PM

Annan wants the US out, not the UN. It's impossible for the Security Council to want the US to do something to does not wish since the US has veto power.

Rochard 07-18-2003 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SCJason

Yeah we are so far behind the rest of the world in running a country..........:1orglaugh .....I find it so interesting when MONKEYS learn to speak. UN has done wonders for the US. LOL Without the US the UN would not exist. All the rest of the countries in the world do not have a pot to piss in nor a window to throw it out of in comparison. The fact of the matter is when the UN decides the "world" needs help, the US always take the bulk of the burden. So far all you NON US citizens......enjoy your free shit.(Food, medicine, machinery, engineering, PROTECTION from your regional "brothers" who wish to conquer your country) Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say thanks and be glad we give a fuck about keeping "OUR BITCHES" on the street. You are OWNED, from your leaders to your street sweepers, and can do nothing but talk about it. BTW.....Try and keep your country nice and clean , we may want to take it someday :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

This brings up a very valid point. The United States has always carreied the burden of enforcing the UN demands. After the Gulf war, it was the US and England who enforced the no fly zone, as set forth by the UN and agreed upon by Iraq.

That's right. It was our planes being shot at.

StuartD 07-18-2003 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard


This brings up a very valid point. The United States has always carreied the burden of enforcing the UN demands. After the Gulf war, it was the US and England who enforced the no fly zone, as set forth by the UN and agreed upon by Iraq.

That's right. It was our planes being shot at.

so that means that the US should be allowed to do anything to any country it pleases now?

maxsweet 07-18-2003 04:13 PM

Quote:

Hmmm... Shit I'm not sure what to say. I want a safe place to live here in the USA -- on the other hand I don't want our leaders to be fucking up the world with a renegade military and exporting weapons of mass destruction for $$$... Maybe US leaders see some serious economic troubles ahead due to globalization and this is just the only way they know how to deal with the problem? I think the real problem is that Americans are fucking spoiled and we need to get back to the our roots -- growing food and surviving without fucking Walmart... ???
See! There is a conscience in America. From all the Americans I've talked to this is the sentiment I'm seeing and one that gets no media at all.

I mean, civilization means that humanity moves forward not back - like Einstein said:

"I don't know with what weapons the Third World War will be fought but the fourth will be with sticks and stones"

TheFLY 07-18-2003 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxsweet


See! There is a conscience in America. From all the Americans I've talked to this is the sentiment I'm seeing and one that gets no media at all.

Americans are very smart -- it's just that senile old people like to vote and they have nothing else to do but watch the "idiot box" -- they really are living in a twilight zone between games of bingo. :1orglaugh

zzgundamnzz 07-18-2003 04:21 PM

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Originally posted by loverboy
who cares about Anan? since Saddam is still out there, Iraq is still at war until Saddam is eradicated, can UN do that?

UN is a joke. Would be really fucked up if we left again and Sadam appeared out of nowhere and took back the country.

sacX 07-18-2003 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard


This brings up a very valid point. The United States has always carreied the burden of enforcing the UN demands. After the Gulf war, it was the US and England who enforced the no fly zone, as set forth by the UN and agreed upon by Iraq.

That's right. It was our planes being shot at.

That's not true.. The US occassionally carries the burden like in Iraq, but there are plenty of instances where the US hasn't done diddly squat..

The UN has many operations around the world, not just Iraq

pornguy 07-18-2003 04:34 PM

If all the countries in this world hate us so much, send us back the american printed dollars, and stop doing business with any american companies..Then see how well your country is doing.

If you have a US dollar in your pocket, then you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the US. Remember that most of us do not agree with everything that is going on, but we are not spending money from your country and complaining about the way you handel the world.

I think that the old saying is, Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

And this country feeds most of the world in one way or another.


Just mt :2 cents:

ADL Colin 07-18-2003 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan


so that means that the US should be allowed to do anything to any country it pleases now?

What do you mean by "allowed to do"? By whom?

theking 07-18-2003 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RocHard


This brings up a very valid point. The United States has always carreied the burden of enforcing the UN demands. After the Gulf war, it was the US and England who enforced the no fly zone, as set forth by the UN and agreed upon by Iraq.

That's right. It was our planes being shot at.

Sorry...the "no fly zones" were not established by the UN...but were unilaterally established by the US and Britain...and definitely was not agreed to by Saddam.

Plan9 07-18-2003 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by spam4spam


The league of nations failed........It was the same thing as the UN. Just a new name. Can you name 10 things different about the two groups?

The league of nations was kind of like the XFL of world affairs. Good in concept, yet a botched execution and little support left it floundering, with no real power.

Babaganoosh 07-18-2003 05:56 PM

Who gives a shit? Get back to work.

ADL Colin 07-18-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Plan9


The league of nations was kind of like the XFL of world affairs. Good in concept, yet a botched execution and little support left it floundering, with no real power.

Pretty funny.

Mr.Fiction 07-18-2003 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
If all the countries in this world hate us so much, send us back the american printed dollars, and stop doing business with any american companies..Then see how well your country is doing.

If you have a US dollar in your pocket, then you have NO RIGHT to bitch about the US. Remember that most of us do not agree with everything that is going on, but we are not spending money from your country and complaining about the way you handel the world.

I think that the old saying is, Dont bite the hand that feeds you.

And this country feeds most of the world in one way or another.


Just mt :2 cents:

If people don't agree with everything Bush does then they shouldn't buy Coke or Nike and they have no right to say Bush is an idiot if they do?

Turn off Fox right now, before it's too late!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Slick 07-18-2003 07:11 PM

Well fuck, why don't we just take all of our US troops and money out of there and let the UN spend their money and put their people on the line :)

jimmyf 07-18-2003 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrPopup
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/3078875.stm

UN chief 'seeks Iraqi handover'

The United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan is set to call for a swift handover of sovereignty to the Iraqi people, the BBC has learned.

The recommendations are contained in a report due to be presented to the UN Security Council next week, a copy of which has been obtained by the BBC.

The UN can make all the recommendations they want. The USA is not going to turn shit over to the UN. We might give them an Island to move there HQ's to after we kick there corrupt ass's out of the USA. The UN is so fucked up. Swift hand over *HELLO* then we'll be right back over there in 10 years. Fuck the UN, 90% useless. Anyone that thinks the UN is doing a good job is playing with a deck of 50.

Mr.Fiction 07-18-2003 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
Anyone that thinks the UN is doing a good job is playing with a deck of 50.
The same can be said of anyone who thinks Bush is doing a good job. :)

jimmyf 07-18-2003 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spam4spam
Maybe you should read the United Nations history. Once before the UN was named " The League of Nations". That's terminated by the way for not responding.
If they don't get there shit together, the UN will go the way of the League Of Nations.

jimmyf 07-18-2003 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.Fiction


The same can be said of anyone who thinks Bush is doing a good job. :)

I thought this post was about the UN? What it get's change in mid-stream to Bush. What kind of shit is this?

HEARTBREAKER 07-18-2003 08:13 PM

i don't like the way Kofi Anan rules.....:321GFY

Webby 07-18-2003 08:22 PM

Quote:

i don't like the way Kofi Anan rules.....
As some enlightenment, Annan is not a monarch and does not rule anything.

Further enlightenment, - Annan is the United Nations Secretary General and is appointed to represent the intenational community.

Webby 07-18-2003 08:26 PM

theking:

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Sorry...the "no fly zones" were not established by the UN...but were unilaterally established by the US and Britain...and definitely was not agreed to by Saddam.
AH... I found something that I totally agree with from theking!! :thumbsup

directfiesta 07-18-2003 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf
The UN can make all the recommendations they want. The USA is not going to turn shit over to the UN. We might give them an Island to move there HQ's to after we kick there corrupt ass's out of the USA. The UN is so fucked up. Swift hand over *HELLO* then we'll be right back over there in 10 years. Fuck the UN, 90% useless. Anyone that thinks the UN is doing a good job is playing with a deck of 50.
Yiou should shorten your posts: they would contain less stupidities.

Quote:

The US State Department meanwhile announced preliminary talks were underway on a new UN mandate on troop deployment.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...1512&ncid=1480

Centurion 07-18-2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta
Yiou should shorten your posts: they would contain less stupidities.



Tis true. If you were to remove the right to make "grandiose statements", there would be very few posts on gfy!:1orglaugh


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