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KRL 07-18-2003 08:52 AM

France Bans "E-Mail"
 
France Bans the Term 'E-Mail'

PARIS - Goodbye "e-mail", the French government says, and hello "courriel" ? the term that linguistically sensitive France is now using to refer to electronic mail in official documents.

The Culture Ministry has announced a ban on the use of "e-mail" in all government ministries, documents, publications or Web sites, the latest step to stem an incursion of English words into the French lexicon.

The ministry's General Commission on Terminology and Neology insists Internet surfers in France are broadly using the term "courrier electronique" (electronic mail) instead of e-mail ? a claim some industry experts dispute. "Courriel" is a fusion of the two words.

"Evocative, with a very French sound, the word 'courriel' is broadly used in the press and competes advantageously with the borrowed 'mail' in English," the commission has ruled.

The move to ban "e-mail" was announced last week after the decision was published in the official government register on June 20. Courriel is a term that has often been used in French-speaking Quebec, the commission said.

The 7-year-old commission has links to the Academie Francaise, the prestigious institution that has been one of the top opponents of allowing English terms to seep into French.

Some Internet industry experts say the decision is artificial and doesn't reflect reality.

"The word 'courriel' is not at all actively used," Marie-Christine Levet, president of French Internet service provider Club Internet, said Friday. "E-mail has sunk in to our values."

She said Club Internet wasn't changing the words it uses.

"Protecting the language is normal, but e-mail's so assimilated now that no one thinks of it as American," she said. "Courriel would just be a new word to launch."


:1orglaugh

ElvisManson 07-18-2003 08:53 AM

I wonder if the Language Police in Quebec will follow suit now?

cherrylula 07-18-2003 08:55 AM

french people are so fucking weird :1orglaugh

thats probably payback for the freedom fry thing too hahaha

The Truth Hurts 07-18-2003 08:56 AM

well, at least they have their priorities in order.

Mutt 07-18-2003 08:57 AM

:1orglaugh

KRL 07-18-2003 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
:1orglaugh
Love that sig Mutt! That's totally high impact visually! Nice!!

Fletch XXX 07-18-2003 09:00 AM

How girly can a nation be?

SGx 07-18-2003 09:08 AM

atm, most of the people using the word "courriel" are the computer engineering teachers...

so i guess that word will stay away from our vocabulary :1orglaugh

Zebra 07-18-2003 09:11 AM

Gimme a Royale with Cheese, merci beaucoup :1orglaugh

afrocreep 07-18-2003 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson
I wonder if the Language Police in Quebec will follow suit now?
man those mofos are like nazi's

sherie 07-18-2003 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by Zebra
Gimme a Royale with Cheese, merci beaucoup :1orglaugh
Pardon et moi?:winkwink:

0zzy 07-18-2003 09:20 AM

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Originally posted by ElvisManson
I wonder if the Language Police in Quebec will follow suit now?
The word "Courriel" have actually been invented in Quebec. It already make couple years that you can find the word courriel on sites created by Quebecers. It's already a part of our language.

So it's nothing new for us in Quebec.

Sly_RJ 07-18-2003 09:23 AM

Oh shit, that's hilarious. Banning words because they originated in a different language? Haha.

Freedom Fries are back!

Babaganoosh 07-18-2003 09:55 AM

Haha, fuck the French. The words "shower" and "shave" are from another language which would explain why they aren't familiar with them.

sherie 07-18-2003 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Haha, fuck the French. The words "shower" and "shave" are from another language which would explain why they aren't familiar with them.
Bwahahahahahahaha:1orglaugh

DrGuile 07-18-2003 10:03 AM

If there's a term in your language to describe something, why not use it?

I dont get why guys are freaking out over it.

xxxdesign-net 07-18-2003 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Oh shit, that's hilarious. Banning words because they originated in a different language? Haha.

Freedom Fries are back!

there's ALOT of words originated in a different language and then translated into your own language.... this is nothing new:2 cents:

Sly_RJ 07-18-2003 10:10 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


there's ALOT of words originated in a different language and then translated into your own language.... this is nothing new:2 cents:

So then what was the problem with Freedom Fries? Anything?

There's a difference between translating and "banning". I couldn't care less what the French do, I just found it humorous.

smack 07-18-2003 10:19 AM

tight assed frogger bitches. fuck those smelly unshaven sluts. such spiteful little assholes they are.

xxxdesign-net 07-18-2003 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

So then what was the problem with Freedom Fries? Anything?

There's a difference between translating and "banning". I couldn't care less what the French do, I just found it humorous.


? FRench fries is still an english term!?

If im not mistaken, the French use ALOT of english terms/words even if there's the equivalent in French... So what they do to protect the language is ask companies, government, etc.. to use the French term... As an individual, you can still use email if you want....

By the way, in couple of years, you might see similar laws in California targeting companies.. to protect the englsih language...

12clicks 07-18-2003 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
Haha, fuck the French. The words "shower" and "shave" are from another language which would explain why they aren't familiar with them.
ahahahahaahahahaha

12clicks 07-18-2003 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by DrGuile
If there's a term in your language to describe something, why not use it?

I dont get why guys are freaking out over it.

because there ISN'T a term in their language describing it, they had to go invent one.

when I'm in a restaurant, do I say,"I'll have the force fed bloated goose liver" or do I say,"I'll have the fois gras"
the fucking french are idiots.

xxxdesign-net 07-18-2003 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by 12clicks

because there ISN'T a term in their language describing it, they had to go invent one.

when I'm in a restaurant, do I say,"I'll have the force fed bloated goose liver" or do I say,"I'll have the fois gras"
the fucking french are idiots.


oh God, here we go again!

You say "fois gras" because you think it sound better!

Do you really have an idea how many words in the english language originated from another languages?

French Fries? That was translated in english right?

12clicks 07-18-2003 10:56 AM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net



oh God, here we go again!

You say "fois gras" because you think it sound better!

Do you really have an idea how many words in the english language originated from another languages?

French Fries? That was translated in english right?

uh, the point is, we don't give a fuck where a word came from. if it fits, we use it.
We're not like the silly french making up words in french to replace common terms already in use from another language.

SABAI 07-18-2003 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by cherrylula
french people are so fucking weird :1orglaugh

thats probably payback for the freedom fry thing too hahaha


i don't think so we are not as petty as americans:Graucho

just to let you know that this thing is ONLY for the government paperworks, everybody else will still use "e-mail" as before they tried to make us use a french version of chewing gum and walkman and it never worked


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