Just How *shitty* Is TGP Traffic?
 

Lets say we take some of the big boys like thehun, mmm100, worldsex, smokinteens, you know ... all the big guys


All the bookmarkers and SE hits they get ...

Lets say the page went 404 to a sponsor. Now you would have literally millions of hits hitting the sponsors front door .... What would you estimate the ratio being?

1:1,000,000 ? LOL!!




seriously ... what do ya think?

1:1million sounds about right actually..

its not shitty at all. maybe some TGP's are just shitty.

Maybe 90%+ of the gallery builders don't have a clue?

oh its not?

So you can get 500k or whatever in one day to your gallery, sent by numurous TGP's .... sometimes only to make between 0 and 20 signups

How is that NOT shitty?

The same volume but with GOOD traffic ...

500k x 15% CTR = 75k to the sponsors front door

1:500 conversion = 150 signups

150 signups x $30 per join = $4,500

shut up stupid. :1orglaugh

the tgps are the ones that accept shit ass galleries.
let me send u tons of chinese traffic and u convert it on a regular paysite.

Isn't this the same guy who told us all about his master plan for building 10 or more 300K TGP's in a week or some shit like that?

You're right lil2dumb4u2....there's no money to be made here, go back to burger king before they hire someone to take your job doing the fries.

Properly filtered TGP traffic is NOT shitty.

Some of it however, is VERY hard to convert. Certain niches are just full of hard assed jaded surfers, and you have to have something special to turn them.

Detoxed knows what I mean.

As for 500k hits, old school you used to be able to count on a sale every 10k gallery views.. Now, assume 5% CTR, that's 25000 clickthroughs, 1:500 gets you 50 sales. Hell, even 1:1000 gets you 25.

That's of course assuming your gallery is good enough to get good CTR, the site doesn't suck, and the sponsor isn't shaving you.

But, I say again, TGP traffic does not suck.

the prob is overused content,
or sites that dont have overused content have the worst built tours on earth.

if u want it done right do it all urself.

agreed,
and u gotta test and test like crazy when u r a gallery submitter,
u start to learn when its ur gallery or the tour or even worse the traffic,

if your gallery has a high CTR that is your job there u have turned on a surfer into clicking into a "pay" situation,

now its the job of the tour to pull through and complete the sale,
the tour is so fuckin key imo when it comes to gallery submission its the "silent" salesman.

fuck off dick, you dont know me ...

Did you find any LOGICAL flaw in my "plan" as you put it?

I dont see you on here trying to help people ... just trashing people is not good enough.

P.S burger king has nice benefits (like free fries!)

I'm gettin 1% to the sponsors 2nd page. Converting 1:300 from that. I'm paying $14.00 on average per 10k. I am making a profit. Enough said.

Shitty webmasters + shitty sites being pushed = shitty outcome.

I have seen better but this does not look too shitty to me. This particular affiliate is currently pushing us traffic from 3 or 4 TGP's. Here are their stats for the last week.

6/12/2003 1135 4 1:284 0 $140.00
6/13/2003 493 5 1:99 0 $175.00
6/14/2003 684 2 1:342 0 $70.00
6/15/2003 923 6 1:154 0 $210.00
6/16/2003 1000 4 1:250 0 $140.00
6/17/2003 897 10 1:90 0 $350.00
6/18/2003 441 3 1:147 0 $105.00
Total 5573 34 1:164 0 $1190

i so agree with this. I see alot of my galleries puling high CTR, yet the signups are disapointing to say the least.

Problem is, sponsors get so oversaturated with time, and its rare you hear about the really good ones unless you have friends (which i do not) lol

Its all a matter of what you ask for

I help people all the time, when they ask for it.

I trash people when they're asking for it as well :1orglaugh :1orglaugh



I find it funny that you know the specifics of the Burger King benefit package.

aaron i agree with you, and the stats are impressive.

But you cant for a second make me beleive this is a common accurance.

I do agree with you saying you need a good program to push, as well as having some sort of smarts on how to push it .. but that STILL doesnt factor in that you have no control over the traffic you are getting.

It is very common. These stats are actually a little higher (worse) than our average. I do not know a lot about TGP's but I have seen stupid mother fuckers submit galleries for teen sites to mature TGP's and so forth. When you do not target your traffic then you will have shitty ratios. Stop submitting to ChineseTrafficTGP.com and others like it and your chinese trafffic will decrease.

The above mentioned affiliate is sending from 3 or 4 TGP's and doing these numbers...If he was sending from 300 or 400 then his ratio would be very shitty.

Work smarter not harder. :2 cents:

You just contradicted yourself. 1 sale from 25,000 visitors is as shitty as it gets. Imagine 25,000 people in your store to make the first sale. :1orglaugh

Here's a book you need to read.

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASI...393708-9519260

Now, after you have read it, try the math again. 5% CTR on 500,000 clicks. 1:500 conversion. What does that get you? 1:10000. Der.

As for it being shitty - sure it's not as good as SE. Have fun with acquiring large amounts of that.

If you're going to be a traffic snob, fuck off and play elsewhere. This is a thread about TGP traffic.

lil2rich4u nice sig. I notice you say 1:7 but you don't get paid on that so who cares? You get paid on the stats you cropped off.

backov it is 1:10,000 by my math too.

this isn't search engine traffic. you make money from quantity. 1:25k impressions is a good ratio for tgp's and you can make money.

Seriously, you dont need your preferred submit account any more.

Is the $14.00 for paid gallery listings or the cost of hosting the galleries?

salt

only as good as you make it. :winkwink:

its for traffic, $14 per 10k. the cost of hosting my galleries is ALWAYS covered by selling 404 traffic for $3 per k. ALWAYS. Damn I'm giving away valuable info here. I should stop.

:1orglaugh

Thank you Backov! I just went through this situation and know WHY TGP traffic 'can' get so shitty. You've got sites with more bullshit redirects, circle jerks, auto dialers, blind links and barely any content worth a gorilla's asshairs so when the surfer does actually find some content they're like " should I buy from this since I was directed here from a site that is obviously run by a criminal? "

Quality sites and quality galleries the do-what-they-solicit is the key to great TGP traffic.

You should try the granny/mature galleries sometime. I have never seen this much shit since Godzilla had the runs.

detoxed if you pay $42 for 30k and that results in one sign up.
1% to second page is 300 converts 1:300. Lets say 404 covers bandwidth. What sponsor pays more then $42/signup?

dads upset...i havent seen him like this since I let fire ants crawl up moms dress too see her do the peepee dance:1orglaugh

LOL...

I'll take it bro. Rachel is going to start submitting to you every day anyway. :)

email me and its yours

Done. :thumbsup

My numbers werent exact. EXACTLY 1% dont go to the 2nd page.. its approximate. Enough info :) I make a profit.

What niches are you referring to?

Probably the ones that have been around forever and have the most traffic.. teens.. normal hardcore