best scammer I have met so far.
 

TheViper (8:43 PM) :
hey brotha, I am sure you have seen my post
TheViper (8:43 PM) :
I was in the understanding you were completely ignoring me
TheViper (8:43 PM) :
I left you several tells
TheViper (8:43 PM) :
about the logo development
TheViper (8:47 PM) :
and you still did not pay, is that the way to do business?
Chico (8:48 PM) :
pay for what dude? I didn't get a logo, you bad mouthed me on the boards a few times. so i see no reason to pay you even if i could.
TheViper (8:49 PM) :
I send you the link over ICQ dude
TheViper (8:49 PM) :
several times
TheViper (8:49 PM) :
I placed your ass on the board because you did not pay
TheViper (8:50 PM) :
http://www.adultcreation.com/portfol...os/logodub.gif
TheViper (8:50 PM) :
here it is sitting for at least a week already
Chico (8:50 PM) :
you do realize that you looked like a bigger ass than I did with that post.
TheViper (8:50 PM) :
well they now know you don't pay.
Chico (8:50 PM) :
i'm not going to click that link, because I now have no intention of paying you or using it.
Chico (8:51 PM) :
anyone who i work with knows that i pay. i have no problem here. maybe trying taking something other than paypal. i told you i was having issues. I told you to hold off. you didn't want to wait. that's not my problem.
TheViper (8:51 PM) :
you never had any intention to pay me, you came up with this bullshit story about your wife and how you could not paypal me in advance you fucking scammer
Chico (8:51 PM) :
it's $20 dude
Chico (8:52 PM) :
i intended to pay you.
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
no
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
u never did
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
you went offline for a week
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
after I finished the logo
Chico (8:52 PM) :
i wipe my ass with $20
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
sure :)
Chico (8:52 PM) :
you think i was offline because i was avoiding paying you $20?
Chico (8:52 PM) :
you're pretty funny.
TheViper (8:52 PM) :
yes.
TheViper (8:53 PM) :
yes so you are not going to pay?
TheViper (8:53 PM) :
after you gave me an order
TheViper (8:53 PM) :
for creating a logo for projectdub
Chico (8:53 PM) :
give me some other way to pay you and I will. i told you, paypal wouldn't work.
TheViper (8:53 PM) :
what method would you like
Chico (8:54 PM) :
i pay by credit card for all of my business transactions.
TheViper (8:54 PM) :
ok I can accept a cc
Chico (8:54 PM) :
paypal sucks and people know this. if you're running a business taking others money...you need to be prepared for this kind of shit.
TheViper (8:55 PM) :
no man, I really thought you ran away
TheViper (8:55 PM) :
don't take it personal, but I had bad experiences
Chico (8:55 PM) :
over $20?
Chico (8:55 PM) :
come on.
TheViper (8:55 PM) :
that is why I first paged you
Chico (8:55 PM) :
after paypal, ICQ is the second biggest piece of shit
TheViper (8:55 PM) :
it's not about the money, it's about princips
TheViper (8:55 PM) :
you think I am some poor bitch or something
TheViper (8:56 PM) :
I paged you on the GFY first friendly man
Chico (8:56 PM) :
you thought i was some scammer
Chico (8:57 PM) :
no.
Chico (8:57 PM) :
you're lucky enough that i'm even considering paying you.
Chico (8:58 PM) :
running your mouth on the board like that
TheViper (8:58 PM) :
like I said, it's about princips.
Chico (8:59 PM) :
my point as well.
Chico (8:59 PM) :
i would never attempt to disparage someone's name over $20. did you not see those who posted laughing at you?
TheViper (9:01 PM) :
you think I even care about those people for one sec?
TheViper (9:01 PM) :
sorry man
TheViper (9:03 PM) :
http://www.*********************.***
TheViper (9:03 PM) :
with this link you can pay.
TheViper (9:04 PM) :
$22.
Chico (9:05 PM) :
no thanks man. i'm not gonna use the logo and I don' t like the way you handled things on the board. sorry...this is just how I feel. it's about principle.

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Like I said before about this guy CANDYFLIP a.k.a. Chico on ICQ, he's a scammer and I think the board would need to know. This is about little money, and no real fuss for me, but what happens if you get ripped for serious money. This is what I am trying to avoid. This guy gave me an order.


:321GFY

go get em tiger..

:thumbsup

All this for $20

:1orglaugh

what a moron, I think I saw a thread of him about choker before.. :1orglaugh

"YOU SURE ARE TOP NOTCH EH FLETCHXXX"

right. show me that thread :)

I decided to delete that line, but im glad you caught it.

You make yourself look way bad, funny thing is you dont even see it.

When you posted the original icq you hit him with 2 messages then created a thread.

lame.

:sleep

Someone getting fuceked over 20 dollars :1orglaugh

FletchXXX I believe you are missing the point here. I am a lamer because I post this on GFY, but what does it make candyflip who is not paying?

Like I said before, it's not about the money.

NO you are lamer because you think people don't pay attention.

You know damn well the guy said he was having issues with Paypal, and again in the original thread you posted regarding this you posted the icq logs, and you hit him with 2 messages and then came bitching about not getting paid.

I wouldnt do any business with you and would warn anyone I know about doing business with you.

You are way too quick to jump the gun and try and make others look bad.

It's backfiring, just so you know

:thumbsup

http://www.koenhein.nl/m3.jpg

i have these kind of toys because i wont let anyone fuck me over.. not for 20 not for 2k.

You think I am dying by not getting the $20? it's all about princips.

hahaha

Mr Insecurity needed to post a picture of dads car.

Anyway, im going hang with friends.

Hope you collect your lunch money.

later.

My dad doesn't live anymore you fucking moron. FletchXXX you are such a tough MOFO, boardwhore.

Fletch...he doesn't care what people here think of him, or so he says.

I said I'd pay...and then he wanted me to pay more for his processing fees. I notice how that's been "edited" out of the conversation.

http://www.shadowhentai.com/images/gfy/bitchslap.jpg


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

give them an inch, they'll take a yard

ROFLMAO

$20? This thread is gay.

You sure are quick throwing those names around. Sticks and stones...

No kidding.. is it about the principles or about tattle-taling? :P

Well calling me a lamer when you have never even met me before is a wise thing to do, yes. Anyway I am just waiting for Amputate Your Head to make one of his wise remarks here again.

Does someone have something I can buy right now. I've got $20 to spend :Graucho

lol.. you seem to be proud of it..

You're calling me a scammer...have you ever met me? I told you why I'm not paying you dude. Like you said...it's about principle. Shit...you even posted the conversation for all to see. Thanks :)

Why did you edit out the part where you wanted me to pay your processing fees? Who's the scammer?

Come on now. I'm just egging him on. I'm bored and this is keeping me entertained.

You had no intention of paying whatsoever. That is a fact and shown in the log. The paypal issue is often a common used excuse, and you seem to be good at making up excuses.

:glugglug

I'd have to agree that you are infact a lamer.

1) The business usually eats the processing fees from CC
payments. Not once have i ever charged one of my customers any more than what we agreed upon due to processing fees. It's called "Cost of doing business" and it lowers your overall profit and will bring down your taxable income.

2) If i asked you to do some work and i wasnt happy with your output i would make you redo it until i was happy with it, and if you didnt i wouldnt pay you either. Lets not forget who the CUSTOMER is here.

3) You've created multiple threads slamming someone over $20 for work he didnt like and didnt want without even giving him a chance to respond.

4) Just about any idiot can lease/rent an expensive car for a couple of days. How about posting pictures of the ownership so we can see your name on it? How about the VIN of the car to see if there is a lean on it. My guess is it isnt even paid off and you've living beyond your means since you're going buckwild over $20.

5) And Finally, you clearly do give a fuck what the people on here think since you come running here to post the latest news about how a customer was not happy with your work, didnt want it and was still going to pay you for it because of how much of an asshole you were.

Moral of the story? Keep your customers happy and you will get paid. Be a dick and you'll lose them along with others.

if he's not using the logo, there really isn't anything to pay for is there? Be glad he didn't decide to say, "Hmmmm, no... don't think I like it. Try again." about 6 times and have you making logo after logo.

It's $20 fucking dollars. So, for the price of a 12-pack and a pack of smokes, you've managed to leave no doubt in anyone's mind just how much of a clown you are. And the way it looks to me, he probably would have paid you if you hadn't been such a fucking COCK and wigged out posting private convos and slamming him on the board and shit, 5 DAYS into it.

I got people that still owe me thousands from many many months ago.... some up around 8 months. And I still haven't brought those to the board.

I have brought payment issues to the boards before as well.... but not after 5 days, and not with logs of personal convos.

You are an ass Marvin.... Your big fucking mouth backfired on you and you got punk'd. Deal with it.

I think I'd have paid the $20 and called it my charity donation for the month. The guy's obviously very needy.

Mind you the other guy's doing himself few favours either with the daft remarks. But then that's usually the way with these kind of threads. Makes both sides look daft although in this case the scales are definately heavily swinging one way.

There he is, as expected.

you thought I was going somewhere Marvin?

no offense, i wouldnt even pay you 5 dollars for that logo. personally i think it sucks.

and all this over 20 dollars?

I offered to do that...and he wanted me to pay his processing fees on top of the $20.

He edited that part out of the log he posted :1orglaugh

TheViper: you think I am some poor bitch or something
Chico: you thought i was some scammer
TheViper: I paged you on the GFY first friendly man
TheViper: I need you to send an additional $5 for processing fees
TheViper: so lets say $27 for the whole deal ok?
Chico: no.
Chico: i'm not paying your processing fees
TheViper: and I will straighten up on GFY
Chico: there's nothing to straighten up.
Chico: you're lucky enough that i'm even considering paying you.
Chico: running your mouth on the board like that

I'd quit the thread while ahead were I you. The other guy is happy to continue digging a deeper hole it seems, so best leave him to get on with it :)

I will not get into a pissing match on GFY, I will not get into a pissing match on GFY, I will not get into...

Fuck it...

Marvin...ever wonder why I have you blocked from ICQ/MSN ect after paying you off? Your business skills are horrid. I'm sure you will post the logs of our ICQ's, which by the way is pretty fucked up how you just throw the logs around like there going out of style. Like I said in my closing coments to you. You do have some skill but your presentation and packaging fucks it all up. You've been on this guys dick over 20$ and 2 small icq's.

I ended our working relationship cause it was less stressful just to get what I could out of you completed to my customer and my partners approval and move on.

I've done my best to keep out of your threads but dude, but your business ethics are way screwed...

I've said my peace I will go away now.

i'm a board whore too. dammit.

I saw the my dick is bigger than yours coming. Anyone else?

He blanked out plates.. Think he was afraid we'd find out which rental agency it was from? I don't see a budget sticker on the bumper, but he IS a designer after all :P

this shit is TOO funny

candyflip / chico is an awesome guy to deal with...

theviper dude, you REALLY ARE LAME, going and posting your 20$ fights with other ppl for everybody to see on GFY...

and editing the conversation just makes it worse.

Im on Chico's side, the fact that you posted a thread about him makes you not deserve the payment.

:2 cents:

Clearly this prolly from Viper's 20 dollar deal he did last week!

Knew he would choke on it in some form LOL!
GOod times!

im sure as hell it wasnt over $20 either!

:1orglaugh

Viper, You should of posted a pick of your made up viper, instead of a BMW, would of been more convicing..

BTW, My dick is 15" beet that

Hey $20 can be alot when you have nothing but a rusted water jug and quarter loaf of bread

nice logo amp. i'm envious :)