Why's everybody dumping CCBill and starting their own program?
 

...or at least every second small(-ish) paysite?

Is it so that you can shave better?
First TripleXcash, now Wow18/Stupidcash!
Don't you guys realise that you might lose a good number of webmasters by doing so!

Being with CCBill (or any other well known third party biller where I can merge accounts) can give you a real advantage!

I don't want to deal with
· dozens and dozens of stats pages and log-ins
· dozens and dozens of small checks every month
· and then as a non-US-citizen pay huge bank charges for each and every check!!!

if on the other hand I can have this all bundled on one nice check from a reliable third-party billing company!!!

If a site is with CCBill it makes it actually a lot more attractive for me to sign up with them in the first place! I now dropped tripleX, and I guess I will do so with almost any other site who leaves CCBill...

what r u talking about ?

I think you don't understand. They still use CC Bill, but they use cascading software to switch between processors if one declines your CC.

Get the facts straight

:2 cents:

:eek7

they dont dump ccbill,they worship Forest.

For me as a webmaster it comes down to the same:
I would get my checks from them and not merged into my account with CCBill (= paid together with other CCBill sponsors)!
If I'm wrong then the guys from TripleX didn't do a good job replying to my emails and explaining it!

Have you ever looked into the situation of overseas (not fucking US) webmasters?

With a minimum pay of just $50
· half the fucking small programs are either not attractive enough to advertise, because as a smallish webmaster you might make one sale a week
· with heaps of them you can't set a higher minimum pay-out (even adultfriendfinder doesn't manage to do so!)
· if I can set a higher minimum it ain't helping much either because by the time I finally get a check the fucking U$ Greenback won't be worth the equivalent of toilet paper (the way the exchange rates are going with your fucked-up Bush and overall bankrupt US economy)
· and finally I have to pay for each and every fucking check $10 in bank charges - doesn't matter if there's $50 printed on it or $5,000!
Now out of 5 grand it ain't much, but out of 50 it's hardly worth the petrol money and my time to drive to the bank!

That's what I mean! I don't take small programs whithout reliable recommendation by several fellow webmasters. These guys can try to make all their sales through US webmasters for all I care...

This is exactly what we do. If a sale is rejected by CCBill, it gets booted down to Epoch and IBill.

Also, cetain people like to use their favorite CC processor. By doing this, we have more options for webmasters to choose from.

indeed he talking bullshit

Wow... He is speaking in orange!

And there are people who won't touch a sponsor is they are using a certain biller. Some people are anti epoch or anti ibill or anti glo-bill. So, with more options and not being paid by those companies, it makes more money in the long run (aparently). I personally see much better joins when there is straight link to the signup form and not those enter all your info before you can hit the forms (and let us collect your email to spam you).
ZoiNk

So ask for a higher payout, they're trying to make you more money. Some people are never happy.

I know stupidcash directly cuts you a check and it does not come from ccbill or epoch. I think you might be in the wrong business if you are worried about a ten dollar bank fee.

Triplexcash.

First we let you set you min payout so you can tell us when you want your checks.

Also for some clients we will also do wires. Although wire fees are usually 30 dollars outside the US.

If you convert well with a program then it does not sound like much of a problem at all.

Hit me up on icq and I can tell you more about what we have.
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For me, I will never sign-up with an affiliate program that is not directly run by an IPSP.

Reasons ?

1) It takes much longer to sign-up if you have to complete a form for each sponsor. E.G. CCbills etc. form 'remembers' my details. Or a shortened form is required ala Globill.

2) I don't want my details/address etc. handed to everyone.

3) I don't want to give my email address to you to spam me with and to sell on. Thank You. (I know I have to give my email address to ccbill etc. too, but somehow it never seems to end up in other peoples mailing lists when it's done that way).

4) I don't want to give you the temptation to shave.

5) Maintaining my programs is MUCH easier if they are all accessable from one page rather than having to log into separate accounts (yuck).

6) I don't like dealing with multiple cheques. It makes my accounting harder.



I know some of these programs are just front ends for ccbill etc, and provided I can use ccbill's etc link code/control panel/paid by ccbill, that's not a problem.

But those that add another layer of crap between me and the IPSP. No way.

That they're cutting their own checks is exactly the problem!
Look at WOW18 - it's in reality nothing but just another boring teen site with not much of a selling point (even the tour's featuring mostly faces a surfer might recognize from content on free tgp galleries).

Now, if I have sites like this in a pool of CCBIll sites I can handle them like I do with sites from a large sponsor like SilverCash:
with SC I advertise on one gallery let's say "NeverShot", the next one "FootCravings", the third one "SlutMovies", and so on - and all is credited to the same single account!

I run my CCBill sites in a similar fashion: one day I do a gallery for "Amkingdom", next for "WOW18", next for "FTV", etc. and it doesn't really matter how many sales the individual site makes, because it all comes together with my constant sales for PenileFitness and 3Pillows, and is paid on one large check by CCBill.

Result: one stats page to check, one password to remember, one check, one trip to the bank, one time banking fee, one position in my book keeping, etc., and if one site doesn't work out I don't have to worry about it (and the let's say $48 sitting idle in an account w.$50 pay-out) - I simply move on and keep advertising the other sites in my CCBill account!

If you guys can't understand this then I can't understand you! Basta!

BTW: if I can't set my personal minimum pay-out (usually between $250-$400) it's a very good reason to ignore a sponsor program!