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NBDesign 06-08-2003 12:01 PM

TPG Frustration
 
Ok... here I come with another fucking newbie question.

I am getting very frustrated with these TGP's.... I am submitting and not getting listed except for EasyPic.


What the fuck am I doing wrong. I follow their rules, and still nothing.


FUCK!!!!!!:feels-hot :mad:

AdultNex 06-08-2003 12:01 PM

List your galleries.

Btw, it takes time to get listed. You think you're the only one submitting? There's about 50,000,000 more like you-- And many TGP's just update 20 new galleries a day.

NBDesign 06-08-2003 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
List your galleries.
So far, I am promoting Bye-Bye Bikinis... Grabbing more content and making more galleries... so far I have two and they are at www.eroticskins.com.

The two there will get to a blank gallery page (no tgp logos..) I have several pages with 3 tpg logos on the top of each...

http://www.eroticskins.com/bikini1/e...bnailpost.html

for example.

Created this one for the Hun

http://www.eroticskins.com/bikini2/h...humbzilla.html

so there are no pop-ups and I got approved, but that does not mean I will get listed.

Just getting started so I cannot afford to pay for spots yet. Mainstream too slow so I am trying adult.

I know I still have a lot to learn, but this is very frustrtating.

pantymaniac 06-08-2003 12:06 PM

post the gallery

eroswebmaster 06-08-2003 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex
List your galleries.

Btw, it takes time to get listed. You think you're the only one submitting? There's about 50,000,000 more like you-- And many TGP's just update 20 new galleries a day.

Yep and as more and more TGP's start using hosted galleries the more difficult it will be for submitters to get accepted.

Steve 06-08-2003 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster


Yep and as more and more TGP's start using hosted galleries the more difficult it will be for submitters to get accepted.

especially with sponsor provided content, non-series pages (which we might just be able to list as hosted galleries if we want)

dchottie 06-08-2003 12:14 PM

In my experience i've never had a gallery listed at the hun where I put any recips up including his own. I always get mine listed when there are no recips up. You might try that. Personally I would start at some smaller TGPs and maybe get partner accounts with those and then work your way into the larger tgp's. If you would like to submit to groovythumbs. It's a decent size tgp and my traffic is growing daily. I would gladly take your galleries. If they are all like what you have shown they are clean enough for me. Just drop me an email at undermyspell (at) groovythumbs.com and i'll set you up an account.

FlyingIguana 06-08-2003 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
Ok... here I come with another fucking newbie question.

I am getting very frustrated with these TGP's.... I am submitting and not getting listed except for EasyPic.


What the fuck am I doing wrong. I follow their rules, and still nothing.


FUCK!!!!!!:feels-hot :mad:

supply and demand. there's just way too many submitters and not enough spots for everyone. only thing you can do is just keep at it until you start getting listed.

NBDesign 06-08-2003 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dchottie
In my experience i've never had a gallery listed at the hun where I put any recips up including his own. I always get mine listed when there are no recips up. You might try that. Personally I would start at some smaller TGPs and maybe get partner accounts with those and then work your way into the larger tgp's. If you would like to submit to groovythumbs. It's a decent size tgp and my traffic is growing daily. I would gladly take your galleries. If they are all like what you have shown they are clean enough for me. Just drop me an email at undermyspell (at) groovythumbs.com and i'll set you up an account.

Cool, email sent and we are on your site now :)

NBDesign 06-08-2003 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


supply and demand. there's just way too many submitters and not enough spots for everyone. only thing you can do is just keep at it until you start getting listed.

Thanks... was hoping to make a few $$ in a short period of time... guess that will not happen LOL.....

Anyone need a good programmer? LOL...

NBDesign 06-08-2003 12:21 PM

Should I start my own TGP... LOL Have the server space and the know how to creat my own code...

Or are there too many out there already?

FlyingIguana 06-08-2003 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
Should I start my own TGP... LOL Have the server space and the know how to creat my own code...

Or are there too many out there already?

fuck starting one. start 10

pantymaniac 06-08-2003 12:24 PM

buy a exclusive content for post to tgp's dont use their free content .. already 5000 person posted same pix series before you...

demented 06-08-2003 12:27 PM

The hun does not like recips AT ALL!

Don't use them.

Hit me up NBDesign, I'll give ya a good pointer :)

directfiesta 06-08-2003 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


was hoping to make a few $$ in a short period of time... LOL...

Goes like this:

will make very few $$$ in a LONG period of time... :(

klik 06-08-2003 12:54 PM

I FUCKING HATE TPG'S!!!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-08-2003 12:58 PM

HEhe open your own!:1orglaugh

PersianKitty 06-08-2003 01:02 PM

In my case, the difference between being listed and not would be the large brandmark on each image. If I'm looking at hundreds and hundreds of gallerys to list daily, I will always list one with smaller or no marks over one that has a very large one. Sure they're cute.. but annoying as heck to visitors.

Horny Dude 06-08-2003 01:03 PM

NBDesign, If your a newbie it would be better to get into AVS then it would be to get into TGP. It is harder and harder to get listed because of alot of things, hosted galleries, to many trying, etc. Plus it's just not worth the frustration and work for some weak traffic. You would be better off joining up with CyberAge and use their free content and hosting and start some AVS sites. Then when you get some dough in your pockets you can use your knowledge from using Cyber Age's free shwag and get your own host and then use mulitiple AVS system's and make even more money. Plus there are alot of other AVS that have free hosting and free content, but CA is so newbie friendly.

Links to help you out:

Cyber Age

AVS Start Up Guide

:thumbsup

hyper 06-08-2003 01:03 PM

fuck starting 10
start 100

NBDesign 06-08-2003 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Horny Dude
NBDesign, If your a newbie it would be better to get into AVS then it would be to get into TGP. It is harder and harder to get listed because of alot of things, hosted galleries, to many trying, etc. Plus it's just not worth the frustration and work for some weak traffic. You would be better off joining up with CyberAge and use their free content and hosting and start some AVS sites. Then when you get some dough in your pockets you can use your knowledge from using Cyber Age's free shwag and get your own host and then use mulitiple AVS system's and make even more money. Plus there are alot of other AVS that have free hosting and free content, but CA is so newbie friendly.

Links to help you out:

Cyber Age

AVS Start Up Guide

:thumbsup

Thanks HD.... willing to try anything at this point LOL...

Shit, almost ready to become content.... not good looking enough though :1orglaugh

Snake Doctor 06-08-2003 01:19 PM

When you first start submitting to TGP's its going to take about a month of submitting every day before you see any real traffic.

Two reasons for this, 1 is that most of the bigger sites have backlogs of gallery submits ranging from 2-4 weeks +.

2 is that TGP owners don't want to list you the first time you submit because there's 8000 assholes out there who buy domains by the bushel and submit galleries and then re-direct them to offshore clicks, they do this with new domains every day so even blacklisting the domains and email addy's doesn't help.

They want to see your galleries over a long enough period of time that they can feel a little safer that you're not going to delete the gallery and redirect the traffic.

Using paid for content will definitely get you more traffic than using free sponsor content.
If you can't afford paid content then the very least you can do is find a sponsor that offers content but DOES NOT offer hosted galleries. If the sponsor offers hosted galleries then odds are the TGP owner is using them and won't list your gallery (why would he want to compete with himself for signups to the same site?)

Once you get about 5 good looking galleries built, go apply for parter status with every TGP that offers it.

NBDesign 06-08-2003 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2

Two reasons for this, 1 is that most of the bigger sites have backlogs of gallery submits ranging from 2-4 weeks +.


Does this mean that I am just in que and my submits will eventually show up?

NBDesign 06-08-2003 01:25 PM

I guess I am still trying to figure out which TGP's take what content and creating galleries with their logos that match... as it is now, I have TGP logos on pages that will not take me and I need to weed those one's out.

Fucking Thumbzilla rejected me for one or more of 8 reasons in their email.

Not sure which though, my galleries are nice an plain... maybe too plain for them LOL

Snake Doctor 06-08-2003 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


Does this mean that I am just in que and my submits will eventually show up?

Yes its very possible that most of the places you've submitted to haven't even looked at your gallery yet.

That doesn't necessarily mean you'll get listed when they see it, but it does mean you haven't been rejected or anything :winkwink:

NBDesign 06-08-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


Yes its very possible that most of the places you've submitted to haven't even looked at your gallery yet.

That doesn't necessarily mean you'll get listed when they see it, but it does mean you haven't been rejected or anything :winkwink:


Thanks :thumbsup

polish_aristocrat 06-08-2003 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign
that will not take me and I need to weed those one's out.

Fucking Thumbzilla rejected me for one or more of 8 reasons in their email.


are u sure, Thumbzilla send out reject - emails ?

NBDesign 06-08-2003 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat


are u sure, Thumbzilla send out reject - emails ?

Yep... Here it is:

I'm sorry, but your application for the private submission area has been declined. Your application was declined for one of the following reasons listed below :

1 . You did not read and/or do not understand the submission rules. Be sure you have read and understand the submission rules thoroughly.

2. You have overused, small, low quality, distorted, fuzzy/blurry thumbnails, and/or pics.

3. Your gallery does not load, loads slow, and/or has broken images.

4. Your gallery does not have a reciprocal Thumbzilla button, and/or a Thumbzilla text link. ( You do not need a reciprocal link if you do not have any other TGP buttons or text links on your page. )

5. Your gallery is hosted on a freehost, and/or your personal domain is being hosted on a freehost. ( You must use your own paid hosting for your domain. )

6. You have too much advertising on your gallery page, and/or not enough images to banner ratio. ( 5 pics per banner, no more than 4 banners ).

7. Your gallery is in the wrong category, has pop up consoles, blind thumbs, or is in frames.

8. Your domain has previously been blacklisted for cheating. It does not pay to cheat. Don't do it. Once you have been blacklisted you will not be removed. So don't ask. ( There is only one (1) exception to this rule, and that is if you have had your own personal domain hosted on a freehost like " Zfreehost " which redirects without you knowing about it. Your domain will be removed once you prove that your DNS has been moved to another paid host. )

Before replying to me be sure that you have reread, and understand all of Thumbzilla's submission rules found at :

http://www.thumbzilla.com/submit.html

http://www.thumbzilla.com/x3tgpv2/public

If after rereading the submission rules you feel that you thoroughly understand and are complying with all of the rules, then e-mail me your sample gallery that conforms with all of the submission rules, and any questions that you may have regarding your Elite Webmaster application.

Thank You,
Nelvac...
[email protected]

polish_aristocrat 06-08-2003 02:29 PM

so do you have a partner status with them ?

NBDesign 06-08-2003 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
so do you have a partner status with them ?
No, I thought that is what I was applying for. Confusing site... Tried to submit, it wanted something (forget what now) so I tried to sign up for what ever I got rejected for.

Sorry, still to new to fully understand everything that is going on with the TGP's.

Personally, I think TPG's should be banned. Again, this is just my opinion, but to me, people that go to TGP's are only looking for FREE content and will not sign up for anything. Hell, that's all I used them for. LOL

Again, still too new to make an acurate jugement, just an opinion.

wdsguy 06-08-2003 02:38 PM

hey NBDesign where did u go (url wise) to apply for the private submission area on thumbzilla?

NBDesign 06-08-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wdsguy
hey NBDesign where did u go (url wise) to apply for the private submission area on thumbzilla?
Christ... their site is so god damn confusing with the gree, yellow and red text... But I think it was here...

http://thumbzilla.com/x3tgpv2/public/

NBDesign 06-08-2003 02:50 PM

I did find another submission page once that had 3 sample links... I think that was the one I signed up for... Cannot find it now... That may not be the link I used. Sorry, I cannot find the other form LOL

Snake Doctor 06-08-2003 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


No, I thought that is what I was applying for. Confusing site... Tried to submit, it wanted something (forget what now) so I tried to sign up for what ever I got rejected for.

Sorry, still to new to fully understand everything that is going on with the TGP's.

Personally, I think TPG's should be banned. Again, this is just my opinion, but to me, people that go to TGP's are only looking for FREE content and will not sign up for anything. Hell, that's all I used them for. LOL

Again, still too new to make an acurate jugement, just an opinion.

Yeah you're right, TGP surfers want it all for free and never sign up for anything. I just make galleries because I'm independently wealthy and bored :winkwink:

You should get out while there's still time

NBDesign 06-08-2003 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


Yeah you're right, TGP surfers want it all for free and never sign up for anything. I just make galleries because I'm independently wealthy and bored :winkwink:

You should get out while there's still time

Since you quoted me... did you read it ALL?

"Again, still too new to make an acurate jugement, just an opinion."

:321GFY

FlyingIguana 06-08-2003 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NBDesign


No, I thought that is what I was applying for. Confusing site... Tried to submit, it wanted something (forget what now) so I tried to sign up for what ever I got rejected for.

Sorry, still to new to fully understand everything that is going on with the TGP's.

Personally, I think TPG's should be banned. Again, this is just my opinion, but to me, people that go to TGP's are only looking for FREE content and will not sign up for anything. Hell, that's all I used them for. LOL

Again, still too new to make an acurate jugement, just an opinion.

your goal should be 1:5000 unique impressions. once you can get that you're laughing. but anything under 1:25k is good and i would say 1:50k is avg for good gallery submitters.

thats more than enough to make some good money with tgp's. surfers do sign up if you promote the right sites and have a good sales pitch.

GeorgeTH 06-08-2003 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
They want to see your galleries over a long enough period of time that they can feel a little safer that you're not going to delete the gallery and redirect the traffic.
QUESTION: I'm currently using a different gallery design/sponsor/category for each of my submissions - will this lower my chances to gain recognition as a reliable submitter?
Or enhance because I'm showing flexibility and creativity?

I'm trying to do more TGP submissions than I used to do over the last few months (or even years). I left my free hosted domains behind and am starting sorta fresh with new paid-hosting domains, hence lost one of the 'we-know-this-guy-is-reliable' advantage (the domain name)...

Snake Doctor 06-08-2003 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GeorgeTH


QUESTION: I'm currently using a different gallery design/sponsor/category for each of my submissions - will this lower my chances to gain recognition as a reliable submitter?
Or enhance because I'm showing flexibility and creativity?

I'm trying to do more TGP submissions than I used to do over the last few months (or even years). I left my free hosted domains behind and am starting sorta fresh with new paid-hosting domains, hence lost one of the 'we-know-this-guy-is-reliable' advantage (the domain name)...

Use the same name and email address every time you submit.
Having different layouts won't hurt you at all, it'll probably help. There's a shitload of people out there who only have one template and they use it every fucking day....blows my mind.

NBDesign 06-08-2003 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


Use the same name and email address every time you submit.
Having different layouts won't hurt you at all, it'll probably help. There's a shitload of people out there who only have one template and they use it every fucking day....blows my mind.

I at least try to change colors LOL

UnseenWorld 06-08-2003 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana


fuck starting one. start 10


Why do we need more TGP's? Just to make it easier for gallery designers (PLEASE don't call yourselves webmasters) to get listed? Unless the market (the people who visit the TGP's) grow in numbers, this will accomplish little more than making it less and less remunerative to put galleries up.

...Which, come to think of it, ain't such a bad-sounding thing!


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