Would you promote a 1:200 program that pays $20 PSU?
 

Assuming that this program converts decently at 1:200 or better, would you bother with this per sign up program?

sure gimme the URL

yes

of course. you're getting money upfront which is always nice.
if the conversions are really 1:200 and under it's a great deal. also when somebody offers more modest PPS payout it tells me that they are likely to be honest people.

Yes, but I would choose one that pays $35 or 40 per sign up first :)

1:200 on what kind of traffic?

we convert less than 1:200 for the majority of the webmasters that send.


and we pay $25 PSU. :)

Thanks for input, Mutt. Much appreciated. As The Doc once noted on an earlier thread, the math all works out, there's really no need to shave.

Is that first page hits and raw hits?:winkwink:

We count before the surfer even hits the site.

The system counts your Raws / Signups in real time through out the day. At the end of the day we calculate your uniques and payout.

BTW, all real time data is broken down by the hour. :)

Is that 1:200 throughout your whole network or just certain webmasters? Also, will this rate also hold true for TGP traffic, exit / blind traffic, 404 traffic [basically, the differing flavors of traffic out there without factoring in higher quality filtered free site, 3d stage email, and AVS traffic]?

Each webmaster's traffic is differant. Those who send do great numbers off thier exit traffic.

It's all about your traffic.

so even with this reality, are you still claiming that you convert 1:200-1:300 across the board? or are you just hijacking my thread? :winkwink:

Our webmasters do great numbers are across the board.

You can judge for yourself about the program.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=135233

lol

I think I have a bit more class than that. :)

LoL, and more subtlety. :Graucho

:)

What if they shaved you like some mach 3? Would you still take it?

Mach 3 shavers are the best :thumbsup

it's 10cents/click
probably yes

There's no need to shave, there's enough revenue streams built into a 30% retaining PSU setup for it to work. I posed the question cuz I'm interested in gauging volume.

Besides the good conversion rate, anyone have any ideas re what kind of premiums to offer to webmasters? prizes? redeemable points? trips?

The only problem with your theory is that everyone and their brother "claims" to convert 1 in 200 or some shit like that...so I really don't think you'd have webmasters rushing to your door to promote you.

If you're that confident in the conversions you could break it down and pay per click, a much bigger headache of a program to run, but you'd most DEFINITELY get a lot more webmaster traffic that way.

1 in 200 at $20 per breaks down to 10 cents a click.
Knock off 2 cents to cover the increased labor and software costs of a click program. At 8 cents a click you'd get more traffic than you know what to do with.

Problem with PPC is fraud, unfortunately. It appears, correct me if I am worng, that fraud escalates in PPC as compared to PSU.

I am confident that it would convert decently...I just can't say the same for webmasters who send 5th page exit popups or 404s/blinds.
Hence, the little Q + A about "network" stats and "practical" stats.

Oh of course the fraud will go up, WAY up, which is why I said it would be more labor intensive.
You'd have to have a crew of people checking referring urls all day long, and an iron clad set of rules to protect yourself.

But if I'm not mistaken Lensman has made a buck or two paying per click :winkwink:

Dumbest question of the week.

1:200 @ $20 = 1:500 @ $50

Oh yeah, would you promote a 1:100 program that pays $10 PSU? :1orglaugh

Not so quick, Corky. You're forgetting fraud issues, very few programs offer $50 on trial.

Porn Dollar, I can't login to my stats!!!

oh geez :1orglaugh

what is your account?

you can contact me via ICQ 116242107

I'm sure its nothing. The system is flawless. :)

Papichulo, I'm guessing this program you're talking about will be a free trial or a $1 for a month deal?

The more I think about it the more I realize that conversion ratios really don't have anything to do with what a member is worth.
If you have a hot site or a hot niche then its going to convert regardless of what the payout is.

How much the member is worth has more to do with the pricing strategy and how well you run your back end.

1:200 with wich traffic? What kinda program ?

I have logged into our system with a number of differant webmaster accounts.

The system is working perfectly for those accounts, so I will assume that you may of misspelled or forgot your password.

If you feel that is not the case, like I stated above, you may contact me via ICQ. If there is an issue, it will be resolved.


I'm going to sleep. :)

-Jason

It's all about the size of the check!

Wait, size doesn't matter? Shit.

That's true.

1/200 HELLO, I have been doing this for a few years and have seen this 1/200 so many fucking times I could :repuke I have ONE sponsor that has converted for me for years at around 1/125 not weeks, months, but years. All others I have tried are pure shit.

I don't blame you for being bitter and jaded. such promises do abound. However, if a program is tweaked heavily to adjust to differing types of traffic and representative sources, this goal should be easier to reach compared to a blind release.

on that note, would you promote a 1:1 program that pays $.10 PSU?

I guess it all boils down to traffic volume and traffic mix. In theory 1:200 paying $20 is statistically similar to 1:500 paying $50 or 1:1 paying $.10. However, if you factor in how probabilities work, most people would probably take comfort in 1:200 since it may take a long time for 1:500 to adjust itself to that ratio, the same with 1:1. This is particularly important if you have a fixed amount of traffic and don't diversify.

Who's counting the clicks?

Those of you that chose YES, how many of you guys promote the Gay niche? I'm looking at a subniche of gay.

Thanks for the feedback, guys. Definitely much appreciated. Stay tuned for the program announcement soon.

ok

good one :thumbsup