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directfiesta 05-31-2003 12:56 PM
No, wasn't oil : "Future oil sales may be pawned to banks "
 
Future oil sales may be pawned to banks

Quote:
David Teather in New York
Saturday May 31, 2003
The Guardian

American officials are considering a plan to use Iraq's future oil and gas revenues as collateral to raise cash to rebuild the country.
Several US companies, including Halliburton and Bechtel, which are jostling for the lucrative reconstruction contracts, are reportedly pushing the scheme to expedite the commissioning process.

Although the UN security council approved the resumption of oil exports from Iraq last week, production has been hampered by looting.

But the plan raises questions about whether the interim authority, which is under US auspices, should tie up the country's future oil and gas revenues. It may also create problems for the permanent Iraqi authority, which may seek to examine the contracts handed out by its forerunner.

Under the proposals, the loans would be made by government-backed agencies in the US, Britain and Australia, as well as the commercial banking sector. Iraq's annual oil exports could reach $25bn (£15bn).

It was disclosed yesterday that Halliburton, the oil services company formerly run by the US vice-president, Dick Cheney, has already received contracts worth $500m related to Iraq.
It was about " liberation".... of Halliburton.

False reports of WMD to get the oil. Simple no?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...967601,00.html

iroc409 05-31-2003 01:01 PM
australia is in on the action too? shame on them!

J-Reel 05-31-2003 01:01 PM
:1orglaugh You conspiracy theorists crack me up.

directfiesta 05-31-2003 01:13 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by J-Reel
:1orglaugh You conspiracy theorists crack me up.
It's not conspiracy, it's news .... and published . Are you really surprised by the content??? Months back Halliburton and Dickie were in the spotlight while "you" were claiming that it was false...

and still are.

You brainwashed people crack me up!

rooster 05-31-2003 01:17 PM
Who should do the oil re-construction then. Your porn company?

directfiesta 05-31-2003 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rooster
Who should do the oil re-construction then. Your porn company?
There wouldn't be the need to reconstruct if the US and UK had respected the International Law and the UN council.

Now, the US and UK want to reconstruct, giving contracts to US firms to profit on ( no bids ) by morgaging the "future" income from the only ressource of Iraq: the OIL ( you know, that dark gold that the US weren't after...).

How would you like if me and my thugs storm thru your house on faulse pretenses, destroy everything , then take your bank account to pay to reconstruct paying my friends....

The US and UK and the other " members" of the coalition of "the willings" should pay . Even the judge of " Texas Justice" would comprehend that.

rooster 05-31-2003 01:29 PM
Ok, now I see your point. You would rather keep a dictator in power that builds a new palace every week while his people are starving. And keeps the country in furthur poverty with sanctions brought on by his actions.

Those dormant fields and ancient equiptment will be brought to modern standards. It benefits the Iraqis, it benefits us, its a win win situation.

Typical extreme left attitude to want to keep people down.

loverboy 05-31-2003 01:30 PM
no doubt its a conspiracy

volante 05-31-2003 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rooster
It benefits the Iraqis, it benefits us
For the sake of those who are not on the Haliburton payroll, please define "us"...

:Graucho

CDSmith 05-31-2003 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rooster
Ok, now I see your point. You would rather keep a dictator in power that builds a new palace every week while his people are starving. And keeps the country in furthur poverty with sanctions brought on by his actions.

Those dormant fields and ancient equiptment will be brought to modern standards. It benefits the Iraqis, it benefits us, its a win win situation.

Typical extreme left attitude to want to keep people down.
Of course. Fiesta-boy is a man of peace first and foremost. If that means that 20-30 million foriegn desert-peasants must live in squalor or die, so be it.

galleryseek 05-31-2003 01:39 PM
as i've said before, we've helped to improve life a bit over there out of all this, the least we should get for taking the initiative is some damn oil / control, no one else was willing to step up ;)

directfiesta 05-31-2003 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by rooster
Ok, now I see your point. You would rather keep a dictator in power that builds a new palace every week while his people are starving. And keeps the country in furthur poverty with sanctions brought on by his actions.

Those dormant fields and ancient equiptment will be brought to modern standards. It benefits the Iraqis, it benefits us, its a win win situation.

Typical extreme left attitude to want to keep people down.
Oups. I forgot the war was "sold" on the removal of a dictator ( like in Panama). I was wrongfully under the impression it was about WMD... My mistake"

Quote:
"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised ... Today, no nation can possibly claim that Iraq has disarmed. And it will not disarm so long as Saddam Hussein holds power."
George Bush, March 18

"We know from Iraq's past admissions that it has successfully weaponised not only anthrax, but also other biological agents including botulinum toxin, aflatoxin and ricin. But Iraq's research efforts did not stop there. Saddam Hussein has investigated dozens of biological agents causing diseases such as gangrene, plague, typhus, tetanus, cholera, camelpox and hemorrhagic fever. And he also has the wherewithal to develop smallpox."
Colin Powell, US secretary of state, February 5

"As a result of the intelligence we judge that Iraq has: continued to produce chemical and biological agents; military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, including against its own Shia population. Some of these weapons are deployable within 45 minutes of an order to use them."
British dossier on the threat posed by Iraq, published September 24 2002
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...966588,00.html

and the " reputable intelligence" sold by Powell and the gang:

Quote:
The foreign secretary reportedly expressed concern that claims being made by Mr Blair and President Bush could not be proved. The problem, explained Mr Straw, was the lack of corroborative evidence to back up the claims.

Much of the intelligence were assumptions and assessments not supported by hard facts or other sources.

Mr Powell shared the concern about intelligence assessments, especially those being presented by the Pentagon's office of special plans set up by the US deputy defence secretary, Paul Wolfowitz.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story...967548,00.html


So Rooster, if it was that the reason ( saving those iraqis from the bad dictatorship - like in Congo- ) why the fuck the WMD fairy Tale and the UN marathon????

Just do like Panama or Haiti; Go in, take him, judge him, emprision him or if in Texas execute him!

True this scenario has faults:

- no oil for the US
- no $$$ for the friends of Bush
- no jump strarting of the staggering US economy.

directfiesta 05-31-2003 01:54 PM
And by the way ROOSTEr, you didn't answer my question:

Would you like it I strormed ...

Would you. If so, give me your address. We will be there.


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