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DemonitizedPorn 07-31-2025 06:04 PM

Don't expect much of a resistance to Age Verification from the industry
 
The people responsible for this problem are Pornhub, Xhamster, Xvideos and the other tube sites. Their business models were based on theft, marketing to children and money laundering. You should expect them to roll over on this issue and throw the creators under the bus. The annoying part will be the hypocrisy of how they did something pointless but it magically protects everyone and makes the industry a better place

CyberHustler 08-01-2025 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonitizedPorn (Post 23388548)
The people responsible for this problem are Pornhub, Xhamster, Xvideos and the other tube sites. Their business models were based on theft, marketing to children and money laundering. You should expect them to roll over on this issue and throw the creators under the bus. The annoying part will be the hypocrisy of how they did something pointless but it magically protects everyone and makes the industry a better place

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pornmasta 08-02-2025 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonitizedPorn (Post 23388548)
marketing to children

Bandwidth wasters don't have money to spend. This plus the bad image they give, if (god forbids) they find your website. 😒

mainstreammix 08-02-2025 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by DemonitizedPorn (Post 23388548)
The people responsible for this problem are Pornhub, Xhamster, Xvideos and the other tube sites. Their business models were based on theft, marketing to children and money laundering. You should expect them to roll over on this issue and throw the creators under the bus. The annoying part will be the hypocrisy of how they did something pointless but it magically protects everyone and makes the industry a better place

1) Still crying about tubes as if YouTube didn't exist is lol.

2) Saying the companies blocking whole states over these laws want them is lol. They already won while you were asleep.

3) There's nothing you can do to stop these laws. Bigger organizations have already tried so lol.

Huggles 08-02-2025 08:57 AM

Pornhub was actively deleting any videos with a .com watermark for years... but you could VERY easily find, uhhhh... "suspect material" on Pornhub and when I reported it... it wasn't even taken down!!

Tasty1 08-02-2025 10:09 AM

When they start pushing age verification on all social media, i don't think they stop at erotic sites.

First pushback is needed from organisations in favor of anoymous internet. But for now governments want control over everything. You can fight it, cost you a few years. If AVS is so bad for business, than most will be disappeared already. Germany has AVS for long time, that might be the reason surfers mostly went to international sites instead of german sites., but some german sites survived. And for sure the tubes created a lot of attention. But so does onlyfans.

CaptainHowdy 08-02-2025 06:07 PM

Not expecting much is one of my traits so all is great . . .

Major (Tom) 08-02-2025 09:35 PM

The industry lost the brain power it once had.

pornlaw 08-02-2025 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Major (Tom) (Post 23388995)
The industry lost the brain power it once had.

The industry lost its desire to fight when it lost the old school pornographers.

CyberHustler 08-03-2025 07:40 PM

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Major (Tom) 08-03-2025 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23389019)
The industry lost its desire to fight when it lost the old school pornographers.

Like the people who pushed the envelope? Some still exist I hear.

Major (Tom) 08-03-2025 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23389129)

It’s not about porn. It’s about control. The first step in brain washing is to get someone to agree with you on 1 thing. Children. Sure, let’s protect children. Next thing the fbi is at your door for criticizing israel. It’s not about porn, dude. It’s about control and censorship.

DemonitizedPorn 08-04-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23388888)
1) Still crying about tubes as if YouTube didn't exist is lol.

Absolutely! It should be made VERY clear who's responsible for this mess. Not, that anyone will hold them accountable. But it might make a small group of people think twice before sucking them off again for pennies.

Also, I'll make it clear that youtube is NOT my compitition. But again, let's deal with the most probable truth. Youtube is, without a doubt, one of the corporations who have lobbied (paid) the government to impliment the upcoming dystopian censorship.

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23388888)
2) Saying the companies blocking whole states over these laws want them is lol. They already won while you were asleep.

We're not blocking anyone. Someone wants to block us then they can do it honestly. Install a giant firewall and lock us out of their market. Why would someone want to make it eaiser for them?

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Originally Posted by mainstreammix (Post 23388888)
3) There's nothing you can do to stop these laws. Bigger organizations have already tried so lol.

I expect the porn industry to do exactly what it's done for the last 25 years. NOTHING!! I also expect the public to do exactly what it always does. Be cowards and pretend to enjoy the butthurt. In our case, we're just looking to for possible contacts who have a similar approach to business. (After all, you can't trust cowards)

There's also no bigger organization trying to stop these laws. They're playing the tax exempt game and asking billionaires for handouts. Their Chairmen/CEOs live in mansions and rub elbows with the politicians and oligarchs.

INever 08-04-2025 07:17 PM

UK Online Safety Act

...political posts, including those from sitting Members of Parliament, have been hidden from the public under the law’s sweeping age verification and content restriction rules.

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-online-...olitical-posts

It's more than just hiding body parts.

The workaround is hosting location and vpns, many of which are free.

Major (Tom) 08-05-2025 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by INever (Post 23389380)
UK Online Safety Act

...political posts, including those from sitting Members of Parliament, have been hidden from the public under the law’s sweeping age verification and content restriction rules.

https://reclaimthenet.org/uk-online-...olitical-posts

It's more than just hiding body parts.

The workaround is hosting location and vpns, many of which are free.


Project 2025 as a few morons here will say. This is everything they wanted. Every time a politician says something crazy it’s an A/B test.

pornlaw 08-06-2025 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Major (Tom) (Post 23389135)
Like the people who pushed the envelope? Some still exist I hear.

None exist. Its not about pushing the envelope. Its about what they do when they are caught pushing the envelope. They put their money and their liberty on the line. I haven't seen anyone personally do that in over a decade. Maybe 15 years.

When was the last obscenity prosecution. John did it. And Max did it. Ira did it.

It will be interesting to see what XVideos does in Florida. They talk a big game in a blog post about AVS but now that they've been sued, lets see if they fold or they fight.

INever 08-06-2025 01:49 AM

Max didn't want to get arrested. On paper he had all the interstate distribution liability with his distributor. Gov just fucked him.

r.i.p.

DemonitizedPorn 08-06-2025 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23389603)
None exist. Its not about pushing the envelope. Its about what they do when they are caught pushing the envelope. They put their money and their liberty on the line. I haven't seen anyone personally do that in over a decade. Maybe 15 years.


What you posted is so dead on that it filled a graveyard. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Look at the conversations on here. There's almost no discussion on how to either fight the bullshit or circumnavigate it. What's going to happen in today's so-called "porn industry" will be a whole lot of people bending over for the ass fucking and then later filling out job applications to be a Walmart greeter.

Huggles 08-06-2025 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Major (Tom) (Post 23389137)
It’s not about porn. It’s about control. The first step in brain washing is to get someone to agree with you on 1 thing. Children. Sure, let’s protect children. Next thing the fbi is at your door for criticizing israel. It’s not about porn, dude. It’s about control and censorship.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

pornlaw 08-06-2025 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DemonitizedPorn (Post 23389664)
What you posted is so dead on that it filled a graveyard. :thumbsup:thumbsup

Look at the conversations on here. There's almost no discussion on how to either fight the bullshit or circumnavigate it. What's going to happen in today's so-called "porn industry" will be a whole lot of people bending over for the ass fucking and then later filling out job applications to be a Walmart greeter.

To be fair, I wouldnt put that fight on the people who post here. I am talking about the so-called leaders of the industry now.

There's a whole lot of people who do not make enough to fight. But the larger companies in this industry can go toe to toe with the government now.

John, Max, Ira and the others who were prosecuted never made what Pornhub, XVideos, XHamster, Streamate, LiveJasmine... ect now earn - in a month.

They can fund litigation across several states. But they chose not to because they believe being set up offshore somehow protects them.

CyberHustler 08-06-2025 11:21 PM

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Huggles 08-06-2025 11:49 PM

Digital ID is the next pandemic. Even if we want to resist it, if governments are going to roll it out, just how does anyone resist? It's basically already guaranteed. The industry just needs to adapt to whatever government wants to make the xxx industry into. There is no resisting, there is only becoming more SFW on the non-paid internet.

INever 08-07-2025 01:29 AM

Only a fucking idiot would share workarounds with bendovers.

AtlantisCash 08-07-2025 02:27 AM

Not exactly right.

I’ve never seen a tube site using children’s content, unless you mean underage youth as children. I’m not saying using underage content is right. Honestly, it’s tough to verify ages with this much user-uploaded content.

Blame the government and NGOs for voicing bigotry. Governments always use kids as an excuse to hide their own bad intentions, and it’s not just the industry—regular people need to speak up louder against this dumb law too. Otherwise, the industry alone won’t be enough to stop it.
Industry is full of obedient little puppies who listen to their government daddy and follow its commands. Instead of speaking out louder, they just comply.

I always thought giving away content for free is a stupid idea. If they simply added a credit card payment procecessor, they’d make more money than they do now. Look at what OnlyFans is doing and prove me wrong. Sure, there’s stolen model content everywhere, but they’re not the ones giving it away for free.

AtlantisCash 08-07-2025 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23389849)
Digital ID is the next pandemic. Even if we want to resist it, if governments are going to roll it out, just how does anyone resist? It's basically already guaranteed. The industry just needs to adapt to whatever government wants to make the xxx industry into. There is no resisting, there is only becoming more SFW on the non-paid internet.


Governments don’t have a magic wand to impose whatever they want on the masses. Their power comes from people’s ignorance, stupidity, and cowardice. If you want to resist, you can. Just like once we resisted their pandemic scam and the experimental shots they tried to force on us, we can resist this too. But instead of regular folks debating on Twitter about how to skirt around things, they need to just say no. We, the ordinary people, have to say no first. To be blunt, I’m on the blackhat SEO side of things. Like it or not, I can get around any regulation I want if I choose to, but for the sake of our freedoms, we all need to say no together. By the way, my work is already SFW, and what I’m doing right now wouldn’t even be considered porn. Still, we all need to say no together. Even though I don’t live in the UK, I’m saying no, and we should all be able to say no. And we should be saying it not just in this forum but everywhere.

Tasty1 08-07-2025 03:52 AM

There is more coming. First no more anonymous internet. And than they will start scanning all your email and private messages.

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The EU could be scanning your chats by October 2025 – here's everything we know
Chat Control is back on the lawmakers' table

Denmark kicked off its EU Presidency on July 1, 2025, and, among its first actions, lawmakers swiftly reintroduced the controversial child sexual abuse (CSAM) scanning bill to the top of the agenda.

Having been deemed by critics as Chat Control, the bill aims to introduce new obligations for all messaging services operating in Europe to scan users' chats, even if they're encrypted.

Denmark is a strong supporter of Chat Control. Now, the new rules could be adopted as early as October 14, 2025, if the Danish Presidency manages to find a middle ground among the countries' members.

Crucially, according to the latest data leaked by the former MEP for the German Pirate Party, Patrick Breyer, many countries that said no to Chat Control in 2024 are now undecided, "even though the 2025 plan is even more extreme," he added.

https://www.techradar.com/computing/...ything-we-know

INever 08-07-2025 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantisCash (Post 23389865)
Governments don’t have a magic wand to impose whatever they want on the masses. Their power comes from people’s ignorance, stupidity, and cowardice. If you want to resist, you can. Just like once we resisted their plandemic scam and the experimental shots they tried to force on us, we can resist this too. But instead of regular folks debating on Twitter about how to skirt around things, they need to just say no. We, the ordinary people, have to say no first. To be blunt, I’m on the blackhat SEO side of things. Like it or not, I can get around any regulation I want if I choose to, but for the sake of our freedoms, we all need to say no together. By the way, my work is already SFW, and what I’m doing right now wouldn’t even be considered porn. Still, we all need to say no together. Even though I don’t live in the UK, I’m saying no, and we should all be able to say no. And we should be saying it not just in this forum but everywhere.

Thumbs up.

Huggles 08-07-2025 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tasty1 (Post 23389872)
There is more coming. First no more anonymous internet. And than they will start scanning all your email and private messages.

Yep, I mean, go ahead and try and fight this... but the system is going to steamroll anyone who opposes it.

CyberHustler 08-07-2025 10:24 AM

Huggles happy as hell he found another updated reason to do what he been doing 🤣

DemonitizedPorn 08-07-2025 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23389841)
To be fair, I wouldnt put that fight on the people who post here.

These mopes are never going to do something like organize to take a stand. Because they're playing with 'dirty videos' and that's payment enough to keep them happy. And, if they're swingers, then it's a bonus reward because now they can act like big shots to their morbidly obese friends.

I do blame them because they're what keeps this bullshit going. Maybe I'm wrong, but you appear to be a lawyer. Why don't you try organizing some of these mopes? I have no doubt that you'll be a better Free Speech advocat than the Free Speech Collation.


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Originally Posted by pornlaw (Post 23389841)
There's a whole lot of people who do not make enough to fight. But the larger companies in this industry can go toe to toe with the government now.

John, Max, Ira and the others who were prosecuted never made what Pornhub, XVideos, XHamster, Streamate, LiveJasmine... ect now earn - in a month.

They can fund litigation across several states. But they chose not to because they believe being set up offshore somehow protects them.

John, Max, Ira and even Rob Black were pornographers. All of these companies are just 'Big Tech'. None of their CEOs have ever stepped foot on a porn set. They're going to make some sort of deal that only benefits them and then they'll go on a marketing blitz saying how they saved the industry.

Huggles 08-07-2025 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberHustler (Post 23389938)
Huggles happy as hell he found another updated reason to do what he been doing 🤣

Eat shit Kang, I'm living the good life again!

CyberHustler 08-07-2025 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 23389974)
I'm living the good life again!

Hope so...

mainstreammix 08-07-2025 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DemonitizedPorn (Post 23389973)
These mopes are never going to do something like organize to take a stand. Because they're playing with 'dirty videos' and that's payment enough to keep them happy. And, if they're swingers, then it's a bonus reward because now they can act like big shots to their morbidly obese friends.

I do blame them because they're what keeps this bullshit going. Maybe I'm wrong, but you appear to be a lawyer. Why don't you try organizing some of these mopes? I have no doubt that you'll be a better Free Speech advocat than the Free Speech Collation.

You're the mope, numbnuts. :1orglaugh


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