How do producers deal with no-shows?
 

Say you have a b/g shoot planned, the girl is already present but the male performer doesn't show up. Do you still pay the girl in full and accept the loss? What is the norm?

I have had variations of the above happen over the years. I have just tried to make the best of a bad situation. You have the talent, just shoot her anyway. Why pay for nothing. This is where a deep rolodex can help you out of a jam. Get on the phone and see if anyone can help you out. You could be surprised.
As Bob Zimmerman said, "When you ain't got nothin' you got nothin' to lose.

I don't have that problem since I fuck the girls myself.

Not a producer.... but I have heard you pay a kill fee (10-20% of the rate) and reschedule with new male talent... and you never hire that no-show male talent again and you tell all of your producer/director friends that he no-showed.

Absolutely this. Many dentists and doctors charge a cancellation fee to their patients if they cancel or don't show.

A real man would simply whip out his own cock and service the talent himself, should he suffer a male talent no show... :2 cents:

I personally think reimagine your shoot, quick rewrite (irl, script people are on set rewriting scenes all the time) and re i.d. the clapper board. Be creative and get product.
A kill fee should only be paid if you caused the problem. I have been around this block a few times. Shit happens.

Whip your cock out and get the ball rolling !!

Unless you have another male talent there in 30 minutes you should work something out with the female talent to salvage the shoot by changing the focus of the content, pay her more money for waiting, or just give her a kill fee. Anything can happen including the girl getting an attitude and ruining the shoot if she does not like the replacement. If you give her a kill fee pay a little extra and ask her to shoot some promotional content.
Often these girls have plans/work immediately after your shoot so it can cause a stressful situation. Plus her loser boyfriend will get demanding via calls and texts to her and maybe even to you.

Shoot solo masturbation with the girl. Do a jerk-off instruction video. Go POV with the cameraman (or yourself). Get some content out of the situation. Failing that, give the girl 20% and call it a day. She got paid for doing nothing.

Sucks but these things happen.

Bingo. Exactly what every professional would do. Respect.

The only question that then arises is: What does he do if only the male actor appears?

Kill fee. Mainstream Hollywood does it, and the numbers are HUGE. In porn it's usually just a few hundred bucks but still it teaches people a valuable lesson. Show the fuck up and stop wasting people's fucking time.

Cause the cameraman or you always have a current test handy just in case huh :1orglaugh

:Oh crap

We ONLY shoot lesbians, so NONE of us on the crew can "whip it out"... and since we only shoot scripted stuff, we add into the cast a small role just to fill the screen, and if there is a NO show ( happens very rarely on the day), we just " promote" the small role into a bigger one with more money and its done...

In about 25 years we had an actress NO show 2 x....and even these were later proved to be legitimate. WE of course have a solid actor contracts (with penalties) signed weeks before the shoot.

Where can I see your content?

Perhaps its time to look at employing some female camera persons?

Um, yes? I always have a current test handy.
Or, if not, do a covered shoot.
Or, if not, then shoot solo masturbation.
If not, then a kill fee.

Always options.
My points stand.

Good clarification. Wouldn't want to see horny Joe the camera man fucking the girl without a test or condom :thumbsup

Not here. Send me a PM and I will give you a link ( in confidence).

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh . . .

:thumbsup

Most of the models don’t care about tests. Absolute fact. And if you disagree then you have not had these girls throw pussy at you. In my experience most women don’t care about protection at all. When they want to fuck you out of pure attraction I think their brain is telling them to get impregnated. I think the only subsets of females who routinely insist on condoms are escorts. If I was a female I would insist on guys taking a good shower immediately before sex of any kind.

Thank you all for replies. :thumbsup Good to know about the kill fee option.

Here is another situation that isn't a "no show" but leads to a similar result:

Both male and female performers appear, they start fucking but the male shoots too early and can't get it up for another round. The scene is incomplete and mostly unusable. Now what? Does something like the kill fee work here? I have recently experienced this and the model wanted the full pay :Oh crap - sure, not her fault, but not my fault too.

get creative. Shoot a jerk off scene of him watching one of your scenes on a computer. Write a description like the horny cuck or some such. Intercut and update. There is always a way.

Female talent performed and would have been able to continue. She deserves the full pay.

Your guy didn't. Next time, consider getting another guy that can perform.

There's sometimes the option to do other positions or do solo/intro to add time to the scene, but it may not always be doable depending on your script or how your scene format is usually.

If the guy shoots too soon you are not using a pro.

I disagree.
Actresses who are constantly filming will not do it without a test.
Many actresses are also escorts - so they will demand either a test or a condom (according to your logic)

I can't even imagine who you're filming that they don't give a damn about the tests...

Never once has a model ever thrown pussy at me and asked if I was tested.

It's bullshit and irrelevant. Whether or not she'll shoot without a test doesn't mean you should shoot without a test.

You have some unique experience. Either you are a master of hypnosis, or your models are completely crazy people.

100% this.

FWIW, if any of you find a woman who "is not a prostitute" but super badly wants to have unprotected sex with you ... that is seeking a retirement plan, not "pure attraction" or any such nonsense.

I haven't met a woman that wants to use protection, I just wouldn't recommend it with talent that is supposed to have current tests and use some sense.

One of the reason a lot of us gave up on producing :D

I'm wondering if this is different depending on where you live. What area are you in?

If the model doesn't ask for tests you are not using a pro. :winkwink:

Louisiana. :helpme

I have experienced the same. I'd say less than 5% of the women (non-pros) I've been with insisted I use a condom.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Even a pro can have a bad day.

Good idea to keep that info low key Sir. :)

If the boy doesn't turn up I stand in. The shoot must go on!

Always have a couple of backup performers to call short term, shouldn't be a problem with male performers