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MrVids 03-08-2024 12:25 PM

Mojohost competitors
 
Just wondering what other hosts there are out there to consider other than Mojohost? It's been a while since I've shopped.

kuprum 03-08-2024 01:24 PM

HAWKHOST

VICETEMPLE


DMCA IGNORED

ALEXHOST

IMPREZA

KODDOS

SHINJIRU

WEBCARE360

RyuLion 03-08-2024 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuprum (Post 23241141)

How do you know those hosts ignore DMCA's?

CaptainHowdy 03-08-2024 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuprum (Post 23241141)
dmca ignored

:/ . . .

TurboB 03-08-2024 02:14 PM

I am not paying attention to overpriced Mojo by paying 17 euros monthly for powerful server at Contabo for 3 years without single problem.

Of course, you can beat me up.

Shoplifter 03-08-2024 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 23241158)
I am not paying attention to overpriced Mojo by paying 17 euros monthly for powerful server at Contabo for 3 years without single problem.

Of course, you can beat me up.

Contabo is fantastic for cheaply prototyping sites. I moved a lot of stuff there when OVH got cocky with price increases.

Brad Mitchell 03-08-2024 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23241149)
How do you know those hosts ignore DMCA's?

I just almost pee'd myself reviewing these web sites. They mostly say it on their front pages :1orglaugh

Brad

Brad Mitchell 03-08-2024 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 23241158)
I am not paying attention to overpriced Mojo by paying 17 euros monthly for powerful server at Contabo for 3 years without single problem.

Of course, you can beat me up.

Hi TurboB,

Nobody should begrudge you for that choice if it suits your needs and makes you happy, then it's good for you.

Listen, if I had an audience of clients that just wanted unmanaged services and a focus on price, not speed, nor support then I'd be happy to sell at their rates on their volumes, all day long.

Contabo says it has 350,000 servers running (presumably a count of all shared, VPS, cloud, dedicated, etc.) for 180,000 clients managed by "64 highly trained individuals are waiting for your contact. We offer telephone support 365 days a year from 8 am to 11 pm German local time and our agents monitor our support tickets 24 hours a day."

We have just over 50 employees servicing around 2,000 clients... and I can assure you, it's not luxurious staffing, there is always more work than people, and we are very efficient. I've also not heard of a web host that only takes live phone calls during such short EU business hours before, so I applaud Contabo for that.

Selling automated infrastructure and services is easy. If anyone has a brilliant idea on how to create a pipeline for such demand, please apply for a marketing or sales job here. If you can create the demand, I already know that we can deliver faster, cheaper and better for clients who don't require support. :thumbsup

Brad

Captcha 03-08-2024 03:40 PM

any unmanaged host + cpanel = profit

Brad Mitchell 03-08-2024 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 23241178)
any unmanaged host + cpanel = profit

Cpanel has raised prices so much in the last 4 years post-acquisition by American corporate devils that you can buy management by humans for the price of a cpanel license on a dedicated server.

Brad

Captcha 03-08-2024 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 23241183)
Cpanel has raised prices so much in the last 4 years post-acquisition by American corporate devils that you can buy management by humans for the price of a cpanel license on a dedicated server.

Brad

I spend $148 on 8c/16t - 32gb - 1tb (for each server with a cpanel license)

Brad Mitchell 03-08-2024 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 23241192)
I spend $148 on 8c/16t - 32gb - 1tb (for each server with a cpanel license)

XL VPS
$149.88 / mo
Geekbench Score 22,938
16 vCPU 30GB RAM
Global Availability
Unlimited Bandwidth
1 Gigabit Network

$1.88 more and ours includes a full gigabit of bandwidth. This VPS that I offer is probably 100-200% faster (could be 300%) than your dedicated server, and with much faster I/O. For comparison purposes, maybe run a Geekbench 4 on your dedicated and see what it scores. Or, if you know your server’s CPU, I’m happy to give you relative benchmark comparison.

Brad

Brad Mitchell 03-08-2024 04:42 PM

Having shared this, it’s additional for cPanel and on this platform you’d pay additionally for scaling your NVMe storage up to 7TB. However, you don’t need to overbuy. Further, when I show you the benchmark comparison if you share your CPU, I’m likely able to show you similar parity on total cost. Depending on how much RAM you actually need, the reality here is a fraction of my VPS vCPUs will beat your dedicated server and most likely then you’re left reconciling RAM ratios.

Brad

NoWhErE 03-08-2024 04:49 PM

Here are my 2 cents: if you’re a one-man operation or a highly skilled sysadmin, then running your own server is fine.

However, once you start scaling up and start getting some real traffic, then managing servers yourself makes no sense because one mistake can cost you a LOT of money.


Thats where companies like Mojo come into play. Managing complex infrastructures with constant support is something best left to a dedicated team.

Then there is the next step which is to have your own servers and internal team of techs to manage them, but I doubt that’s where most of us are at right now

sarettah 03-08-2024 04:56 PM

OP, in no particular order, the best for adult managed hosting is MOJOHost, M3server and Vacares

natkejs 03-08-2024 05:35 PM

Of the adult hosts I've used, Mojo is the only one that I would recommend at this stage.

Although these days I manage all of my own stuff for cheap, but that does take a bit of dedication and time that you might find better spent on building your product. I just happen to enjoy it.

Rochard 03-08-2024 05:56 PM

Mojo Host is the best. I don't dick around with others.

MrVids 03-08-2024 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23241198)
OP, in no particular order, the best for adult managed hosting is MOJOHost, M3server and Vacares

m3server. i had a box or two there about a decade ago and i remember it going well, I believe I sold the sites with the server. thanks for dusting off my terrible memory.

lovebitch 03-08-2024 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23241149)
How do you know those hosts ignore DMCA's?

Offshore hosts dont follow the DMCA or any copyright case.

You need to take court order from the location where servers are physically located, to take them down.

OneHungLo 03-08-2024 08:52 PM

Been with Swiftwill/Reflected for 20+ years. 20 years of always being solid.

Got some other stuff at Vacares. Always solid too. Great support from both as well.

the Shemp 03-08-2024 10:01 PM

i use vacares ... never a problem ...

Wtify 03-09-2024 12:43 AM

I don't know how and why but MojoHost is - so far - superior to each other hosts in the adult industry.

SpicyM 03-09-2024 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovebitch (Post 23241272)
You need to take court order from the location where servers are physically located, to take them down.

I enforced my take-down without a court order. None of these "offshore" criminal hosts is immune.

SpicyM 03-09-2024 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyuLion (Post 23241149)
How do you know those hosts ignore DMCA's?

What would you expect from a Russian spammer?

PornDude 03-09-2024 05:13 AM

Maybe check:

https://pornwebmasters.com/adult-web-hosting-sites

jscott 03-09-2024 06:29 AM

Whatsup MrVids!

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 23241295)
i use vacares ... never a problem ...

I agree with Shemp :thumbsup

the Shemp 03-09-2024 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23241354)
Whatsup MrVids!



I agree with Shemp :thumbsup

you're a wise man, jscott ... :thumbsup

Denny 03-09-2024 08:00 AM

I currently use 5 different hosts, including Mojo.

Sly 03-09-2024 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23241198)
OP, in no particular order, the best for adult managed hosting is MOJOHost, M3server and Vacares

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 23241279)
Been with Swiftwill/Reflected for 20+ years. 20 years of always being solid.

Got some other stuff at Vacares. Always solid too. Great support from both as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 23241295)
i use vacares ... never a problem ...

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 23241354)
Whatsup MrVids!

I agree with Shemp :thumbsup

Hey thanks guys!

Always appreciate your support.

Axeman 03-09-2024 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 23241295)
i use vacares ... never a problem ...

I use Vacares for my side project sites as I like Ryan and his crew.

We use Mojo for all our member sites, NATS, DB, encoder etc.

katja_AWNews 03-09-2024 11:03 AM

Thanks to Mojo's service package that costs a little extra, I have been a loyal customer for 5 years, enabling me to save time and avoid headaches. It's the primary reason I haven't switched providers. Ultimately, it's the support that sets Mojo apart for me. I admit, that I'm not the most technically savvy person—I only know how to create websites and generate traffic; the technical aspects are beyond my expertise.

sandman! 03-09-2024 11:12 AM

Depends on the location and what your needs are there are a ton of webhosts out there

Tjeezers 03-09-2024 01:20 PM

Support is important. Hence I stay with MOJO.
I use their premium support service and never regretted it.

Wautier 03-09-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 23241472)
Support is important. Hence I stay with MOJO.
I use their premium support service and never regretted it.

Why the need to post it from two accounts? :error

Freedoom 03-09-2024 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboB (Post 23241158)
I am not paying attention to overpriced Mojo by paying 17 euros monthly for powerful server at Contabo for 3 years without single problem.

Of course, you can beat me up.

I didn't know that company. Their prices are amazing but they are unmanaged right?

TurboB 03-09-2024 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freedoom (Post 23241479)
I didn't know that company. Their prices are amazing but they are unmanaged right?

Yes, they are unmanaged. You should install and configure server by yourself.
If something more - support is fast enough.

manilaagent 03-09-2024 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 23241226)
Mojo Host is the best. I don't dick around with others.


Yes Brad and his Team are the best !!

"MojoHost.com" is the best why Fuck Around with the rest .

bigalownz 03-09-2024 08:18 PM

see me sig

daviking 03-10-2024 01:36 AM

Anyone has experience with advancedhosting.com? I see a lot of big sites using them.

CaptainHowdy 03-10-2024 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wautier (Post 23241475)
Why the need to post it from two accounts? :error

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=397507&dateline=1554331304

Ollay 03-10-2024 08:36 AM

What location and spec are you after? I highly recommend UKServers if you're not wanting US. I have been using them for a few years now for my file servers and they've been fantastic. Solid 10Gbps always, great international connectivity and support is great.

They have some amazing deals on here: https://www.fractionservers.com/specials/

You can also speak with David there if none of them suit your needs and get a great deal.

Dugmor 03-10-2024 04:14 PM

This is what I have with MoJoHost right now.

I will upgrade the AMD Ryzen 5950X to a AMD Ryzen 7950X and scale horizontally with more 7950X machines because Windows licenses add up based on the number of cores, so the more cores, the higher the cost.

Adding several Ryzen 7950Xs will reap better results together, and cost the same or less, than one large Threadripper or Epyc.

2MuchMark 03-10-2024 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captcha (Post 23241178)
any unmanaged host + cpanel = profit

^^ This ^^

If you are shopping around for a hosting provider, take your time. There are tons of them out there to choose from.

People who buy hosting services often end up paying more than necessary or over-provisioning for their actual needs due to several factors, and the salesreps are pretty happy to let that happen.

A common scenario is the lack of understanding of their website's or application's resource requirements, leading to the purchase of more expensive plans with higher bandwidth, storage, or processing power than needed. Marketing strategies by hosting providers, which emphasize the benefits of more costly packages or add-ons, can also influence buyers to opt for more extensive features that remain underutilized.

Here is what I suggest:

I have been using a hosting provider called https://tmdhosting.com since about 2018. They always reply within 15 minutes for every ticket, they let me scale-up and scale down as I need to, they provide support outside of their usual scope, and they even give new customers a free 30 day trial.

Another thing you can do is setup your own server in minutes with a cloud provider such as https://linode.com. For example, if you need a server "right now", you can spin one up and have it online in 5 minutes, for only $5.00 per month. And its FAST.

Use a program such as cPanel to manage it, and begin setting up your domains and email accounts by yourself, easily. cPanel is a very popular and affordable web-based hosting control panel provided by many hosting providers to website owners, allowing them to manage their websites from a web-based interface. If your server is linux and your hosting provider isn't giving you cPanel, you should demand it, and, to provide it to you for free. It is considered one of the best server management tools out there. Cpanel is free to try for 15 days, and after that is about $20 a month or so. TMDHosting provides cPanel for free.

Sorry for the long-winded response but when you are shopping for a hosting provider, take your time. Talk to the reps and ask them questions. Don't let them sell you stuff you don't need, or worse, scare you into spending extra money. A good hosting provider will provide you with the support, tools & speed you need at a reasonable price.

Ollay 03-11-2024 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dugmor (Post 23241827)
This is what I have with MoJoHost right now.

I will upgrade the AMD Ryzen 5950X to a AMD Ryzen 7950X and scale horizontally with more 7950X machines because Windows licenses add up based on the number of cores, so the more cores, the higher the cost.

Adding several Ryzen 7950Xs will reap better results together, and cost the same or less, than one large Threadripper or Epyc.


Agreed, i'd always go Ryzen over any server CPU. It's all about single thread performance for websites.

Wtify 03-11-2024 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daviking (Post 23241638)
Anyone has experience with advancedhosting.com? I see a lot of big sites using them.

1. Russians (nothing wrong with it, just FYI)
2. A bit over-priced
3. They decide what server they give you, you must not tell anything against their choice
4. They ask € 100 for managed hosting but you have a limited number of hours (they count even seconds, can't ask anything after 10pm and during weekends)
5. You will get charged for EVERYTHING, every single bytes of traffic

CaptainHowdy 03-11-2024 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigalownz (Post 23241585)
see me sig

https://gfy.com/image.php?u=62089&dateline=1605958439

feetpics 03-11-2024 08:24 AM

I pay $35 for a dedicated server, never any issues, zero downtime
32 GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, and unlimited 1GB bandwidth, I think people are stupid paying $100 for a VPS

2MuchMark 03-11-2024 11:02 AM

Watch this video



The first part is good but if you want to know how to do it, fast-forward to the 5 minute marker. It's excellent and easy for newbies to understand.

Quote:

Originally Posted by feetpics (Post 23242042)
I pay $35 for a dedicated server, never any issues, zero downtime
32 GB RAM, 1TB hard drive, and unlimited 1GB bandwidth, I think people are stupid paying $100 for a VPS

No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.

Of course though, sometimes paying $100 for a VPS or any price for any service isn't necessaily bad IF it frees you up from running your business, AND it is a fair price. $100 for a VPS is of course, nutty.

Another good and fun way to do some things is to do a mix of hosting at a provider, and self-hosting.

For example, you could have your main website at the hosting provider of your choice, and then spin-up servers at Linode.com for other purposes which cost you alot less. You can even host your site and services at your own home, but this is risky for security and reliability reasons. It is good to do to learn, but not recommended if you require 100% reliability.

Brad Mitchell 03-11-2024 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2MuchMark (Post 23242105)
Watch this video



The first part is good but if you want to know how to do it, fast-forward to the 5 minute marker. It's excellent and easy for newbies to understand.



No they aren't stupid, they just don't know. They listen to what sales reps tell them, or what sales reps allow them to think.

Of course though, sometimes paying $100 for a VPS or any price for any service isn't necessaily bad IF it frees you up from running your business, AND it is a fair price. $100 for a VPS is of course, nutty.

Another good and fun way to do some things is to do a mix of hosting at a provider, and self-hosting.

For example, you could have your main website at the hosting provider of your choice, and then spin-up servers at Linode.com for other purposes which cost you alot less. You can even host your site and services at your own home, but this is risky for security and reliability reasons. It is good to do to learn, but not recommended if you require 100% reliability.

Mark, buddy, it's like you just keep saying the same stuff out of disdain that I didn't support one of your GFY posts last year, which makes your replies in threads like this personal and a lot less informative than they could be.

Listen, if someone wants hosting from $5-$20/monthly anywhere in the world, this is not the realm I am referring to. I'm not the solution for that and we never advertised ourselves to be. There's a perfectly valid reason we don't sell solutions in this range- they generate a lot of noise, abuse complaints, chargebacks, and make a support desk busy with communication on accounts that are a loss-leader, even at scale.

There's no reason someone should try hosting from their home. If they can't afford something for the price of a coffee and a donut, we really shouldn't be giving them "serious" business advice.

This idea that a '$100 VPS' is absurd seems completely out of touch with current cloud and VPS technologies and what proper business practices will deliver insofar as performance is concerned. For example, our new VPS platform is faster than everything dedicated (or otherwise) at your "favorite" TMD hosting, by several hundred percent. Benchmarks can easily prove that. You just so sincerely want to be right about everything, that you've ignored all conversations and product offerings that I've had for the last 20 years, very much in spite of my genuine intentions and hard work.

Let's tackle your TMD Hosting, first. If we are comparing apples to apples VPS and dedicated hosting plans, we are ostensibly the same or less cost but providing service on more relevant new technology and with additional configuration options plus with what must be a much more advanced team. When you switch their prices to month-to-month instead of a triannual (3 year) advance payment their Linux VPS with 2 vCPU 4GB RAM becomes $54.99/month with 3TB of bandwidth whereas our 2 vCPU 4GB RAM is $29.88 with 300 Megabit unmetered (75TB+/-). You can get into the nuances of adding cPanel or instead choosing on-demand support and you end up with a total solution cost difference that is negligible, yet ours is faster and includes more transfer, which is pretty relevant for adult projects.

The only reason why web hosts push prepayment with steep discounts is when they're selling to a less qualified audience or are expecting high rates of attrition. We could discuss all of their dedicated server offerings, but they're so irrelevant with the underlying hardware, that it would end up being the case their fastest dedicated server with 16 cores and 32GB of RAM is probably only as fast as a "Medium" or "Large" MojoHost VPS, except with completely irrelevant I/O performance using their HDD or SSD. They're also either cheating cPanel on their dedicated server licensing or just completely moronic and haven't updated their own shopping cart. They have the cPanel cloud/VPS pricing on dedicated servers, so they're either cheating the system or too dumb to realize that their own license cost is nearly $60 per bare metal machine.

You reference Linode. Linode is very respectable, it was acquired by Akamai two years ago. My shopping cart prices are 33% off Linode's on the Premium CPU product, a slower CPU than what we are providing. Our pricing is 20% less than Linode's dedicated CPU product, which is significantly slower than our CPU. Lastly, we are about 20% more than Linode's shared-CPU tier, which of course our CPU choice is dramatically faster than. Except, by comparison to Linode, we provide unlimited bandwidth of 300 megabit, 600 megabit, or 1 gigabit, while they provide only 4-12TB of monthly transfer. Plus, we're using Gen4 NVMe storage, which is faster than what is offered on most of their tiers.

And then there's the fact that I am just sharing comparisons with our everyday "low" shopping cart prices. Nearly everyone approaches Natalie or myself for personalized service and a quote, which always leads to some percentage of additional discount. If you don't want to talk to people and don't value the fact that we are readily available, also here posting on this forum, and that we support the industry in so many ways - then probably we aren't a fit for your business.

There are tens of thousands of hosting resellers and smaller web hosts, so it's easy to find service at any price point and a little bit harder to understand what's going on underneath the hood at various providers. There are only a few hundred companies our size or larger. Bigger isn't always better, but it's also quite rude to not acknowledge what reliability, peace of mind, and an honest sales pitch are really worth. Hosting has always been a buyer-beware situation. At the point when web projects switch from being a hobby to being a livelihood, this is where we seek to meet new customers.

Cheers,

Brad

MrVids 03-11-2024 03:23 PM

This is what I get for posting for the first time in 7 years. I titled the thread the way I did so I wouldn't trigger people into posting Mojo 4,194 recommendations.

I know Mojo and I have boxes there which are likely to stay there. I just wanted to know who else people host with these days so I can look around and make sure I have a good feel for what's out there.

Maybe I should have titled it: "We all know Mojo is dope and Brad is great. Are there any other hosts left standing?"

With any luck, this will be my last post until 2031.


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