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Platinum Lantern 05-25-2003 08:22 AM

Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)
 
Looking for a good credit card processor to test out my ebony paysite for a few months before I go ahead and pick epoch or ccbill for my webmaster program.

Looking for someone who you guys use or have used that did good for your sites...

Just not in a hurry to drop out $750 for something I'm not exactly sure is going to make money like I expect it to.

Your input is appreciated...

jact 05-25-2003 08:33 AM

You don't pay per site, you pay per IPSP, so what're you risking by paying the $750? Nothing. If this site doesn't work, start another one, you won't pay the $750 again.

Snake Doctor 05-25-2003 09:37 AM

Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)

Those two terms are mutually exclusive.

Kimmykim 05-25-2003 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2
Good CC Processor Without Visa Fee ($750)

Those two terms are mutually exclusive.

Damned if you didn't beat me to that one sugar...

basschick 05-25-2003 01:30 PM

acpay is backed by adultcheck. i don't use them, but i hear good things.

globill is weird, but seems honest, and they also don't charge the fee.

Jakke PNG 05-25-2003 01:33 PM

I'm considering yambo.biz myself. But you have to (apparently) pay for the affiliates script if you want affiliates.

Snake Doctor 05-25-2003 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


Damned if you didn't beat me to that one sugar...

I like it when you call me sugar.

How come you weren't calling me sugar when you were here in New Orleans? :Graucho

PostWhore 05-25-2003 01:53 PM

globill

Kimmykim 05-25-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lenny2


I like it when you call me sugar.

How come you weren't calling me sugar when you were here in New Orleans? :Graucho

Hahaha, cause I was too busy hobbling all over the place :)

cotsios 05-25-2003 02:52 PM

ccbilleu.com :thumbsup

some_idiot 05-25-2003 02:55 PM

Gotta say GloBill is your biggest bang for the saved buck.

ACPay if you can stand doing with phone billing, or service
within 4 hours.

You'd be suprised how fast you make up that fee when you're
not scrubbed to hell through.

xxxinnovations 05-25-2003 02:56 PM

www.acpay.com

Soteko 05-25-2003 04:01 PM

Quote:


You'd be suprised how fast you make up that fee when you're
not scrubbed to hell through.

Why are you just keep up saying that processors that have not VISA fee, are scrubbing to much.

Is this true? Someone has experience with this...

As for processor take ACPay!

PANTYHOSE PROPHET 05-25-2003 04:06 PM

I've been using GloBill without any problems.

scooby doo as scooby does 05-25-2003 06:19 PM

Globill all the way.

ZoiNk 05-25-2003 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soteko


Why are you just keep up saying that processors that have not VISA fee, are scrubbing to much.

Is this true? Someone has experience with this...

As for processor take ACPay!

Everyone scrubs too much, most processors won't even tell you their banned country lists. There are 30-50 countries easily that are instantly denied just by the country the person claims they are from on the CC form.
ZoiNk

AOLGuy 05-25-2003 08:12 PM

Why not test it out as a PROAdult Quantum site?

Easy sell too, given all their good Quantum features. It also benefits from 90%+ retention month to month.

See link in sig!

thewebgarage 05-25-2003 08:31 PM

try acpay. I posted a link with my referal code :P


https://clients.acpay.com/signup.acp?1270

Brad Mitchell 05-25-2003 08:39 PM

The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me.

Brad

Kimmykim 05-25-2003 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SinEmpire
The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me.

Brad

That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)

steffie 05-25-2003 09:20 PM

http://www.verotel.com

xoxox

Brad Mitchell 05-25-2003 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim


That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)

hehehe

I'm thinking in Montreal we should start a pool betting on who is going out of business and when.

KK, are you guys going to work on integrating Epassporte with MPA2?

Cheers,

Brad

scooby doo as scooby does 05-25-2003 09:49 PM

Quote:

The last IPSP that didn't charge $750 just went tits up. That's bad math to me
It might be bad math, but it's also bullshit since no one knows exactly why WSB went tits-up except their directors/liquidators. Trying to make a connection between not charging the $750 VISA fee and WSB going tits-up is, well, a disingenious attack on Globill/ACPay and other non-VISA fee chargers etc. or, as I prefer to put it, just moronic conclusion making.

PostWhore 05-25-2003 09:53 PM

see sig!!!

SleazyDream 05-25-2003 09:55 PM

maybe you should ask for a good host without paying any bandwidth fees as well? While you're at it why not ask some photographers for some exclusive content on trial before you pay for it...........

inthestars 05-25-2003 10:02 PM

I suggest Verotel, they are based in the Netherlands. I have used them for three years. You can accept credit cards, checks, or do 900 number billing. See my signature and signup!

oxenus 05-26-2003 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by inthestars
I suggest Verotel, they are based in the Netherlands. I have used them for three years. You can accept credit cards, checks, or do 900 number billing. See my signature and signup!
Verotel sucks with Check authorization.

We had 20 check/subscribers
and after a 1.5 month verotel said ALL THESE WERE fraud.

I was sick and tired with them.

Nysus 05-26-2003 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SleazyDream
maybe you should ask for a good host without paying any bandwidth fees as well? While you're at it why not ask some photographers for some exclusive content on trial before you pay for it...........
Ooo.. Great idea! Any takers??

Cheers,
Matt

max.yambo 05-26-2003 04:34 AM

Quote:

That wasnt the last one that didnt charge OR the last one thats going tits up Brad ;)
Kimmy,

That was funny :) lol

HairToStay 05-26-2003 04:50 AM

Verotel may be good if you're in the Netherlands, but I've been waiting 7 weeks for my checks that they 'supposedly' sent. They claim they must have been 'stolen'. Funny how I've gotten every other check due to me, even from International companies.

Globill
Hughes Billing

Civic3D 05-26-2003 04:54 AM

ACPay : )

Tipsy 05-26-2003 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by oxenus


Verotel sucks with Check authorization.

We had 20 check/subscribers
and after a 1.5 month verotel said ALL THESE WERE fraud.

I was sick and tired with them.

Welcome to the world of accepting cheques online. It's not really just a verotel thing.

Mind You so far I've not been impressed with either the service or features (or more correctly total lack of features) offered by verotel as I was looking into using them as a backup.

My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

oxenus 05-30-2003 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy



My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

Could you , please, recommend good billing companies?

I need delay transactions.
And a billing company which works with The Netherland's webmaster.?

Good fraud detection, online check verification...
:-)

Thanks

nevermind 05-30-2003 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scooby doo as scooby does


It might be bad math, but it's also bullshit since no one knows exactly why WSB went tits-up except their directors/liquidators. Trying to make a connection between not charging the $750 VISA fee and WSB going tits-up is, well, a disingenious attack on Globill/ACPay and other non-VISA fee chargers etc. or, as I prefer to put it, just moronic conclusion making.

This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them.

To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.

SGS 05-30-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nevermind


This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them.

To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.

This is as clear as the balls on a dog. :2 cents:

rodme_him 05-30-2003 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


Welcome to the world of accepting cheques online. It's not really just a verotel thing.

Mind You so far I've not been impressed with either the service or features (or more correctly total lack of features) offered by verotel as I was looking into using them as a backup.

My personal view would be stop being a tightass. You'll have to pay the $750 at some stage so pay it now and get it over and done with. You can then use a decent company such as ccbill and not only have a system that works but one that works the way you want it to.

I would try Web Transaction Service http://www.achdebit.com/ .

Notice no refferal code

Kimmykim 05-30-2003 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by max.yambo


Kimmy,

That was funny :) lol

You know what they say Max, there's truth in all humor...

JDog 05-30-2003 11:06 AM

People just need to face and realize that soon there will not be a CC processor that will waive that $750. And if they do, their going to be bringing on so many accounts they won't be able to stay in business, atleast that is my fill, because if your giving away $750 basically! ya know!

jDoG

playa 05-30-2003 11:48 AM

that 750 fee does a good job to eliminates all the newbies trying to get into the business

Elephant_Gut 05-30-2003 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oxenus


Could you , please, recommend good billing companies?

I need delay transactions.
And a billing company which works with The Netherland's webmaster.?

Good fraud detection, online check verification...
:-)

Thanks


I recommend Glo-bill. They get my highest rating. $750 or no $750 they're great! Don't let the fear-mongers scare you. Right now Glo-bill is not charging any fees. But if Visa International or whoever eventually change their rules to mimic the US, then I suppose Globill will also have to charge $750 at that point. Either way, they are my preferred processor.

If you are in Europe I would also recommend Verotel or CCBill EU. The former does not charge any fees either, last time I checked.

loverboy 05-30-2003 01:33 PM

you from iBill?

scooby doo as scooby does 05-30-2003 02:16 PM

Quote:

This is unbelieveable. When will you people wake the fuck up and realize that you're going to have to pay the fees to stay in business.
Fuck me. Talk about a moron putting words into my mouth to try and prove his point. Please point out in that post (or any of my posts) where I say (with or without globill) that the fees will never have to be paid ?

Found it ?

Nope, Stage one of your education: Learn to Read.

Quote:

I believe there are problems with all of the processors, but the ones who don't charge the fees are the worst of all.
Stage Two: Learn to Understand.

Quote:

WSB sued Visa a year and a half ago and it got them absolutely NOWHERE. You think that WSB sued Visa because they had a great relationship with them?
No. I think WSB sued VISA because of the fines levied for excessive chargebacks. I'll repeat that. Chargebacks. A little louder so you can understand (shout louder to morons, they may understand) ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEES.

Stage Three: Learn to Listen.

Quote:

Think again. Any processor who tries to bypass their rules IS going to be screwed and take their webmasters down with them. To delude yourself into believing otherwise at this point IS moronic.
As far as I can tell, no one in this thread has supported any processor who broke/bypassed the rules. Your problem, among many it seems, is making a causal connection between 'WSB', 'not paying the fees' and 'breaking the rules'. No one knows whether a connection exists between the three, and unless you have you head up the ass of a WSB director and a VISA bigwig in your bed, you know jack shit about WSB and there problems. As do I.

Stage Four: Know your Limitations.



As I understand it. Globill process out of VISA EU. VISA EU have already decided NOT to accept and implement the regulations regarding fees implemented by VISA US. This means any bank/processor processing in the VISA EU does NOT have to register their webmasters or charge administration fees. There are no 'rules' to break or bypass regarding this. No one is saying this will never change, but to the best of my knowledge, that is currently the situation.

That fact that WSB went under, and ACPAY have decided not to absorb the fees (or whatever is up with them) is NOT an indication that non-fee charging processors are necessarily breaking or bypassing VISA rules. Too make that connection is incorrect and just plain stupid.


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