Your own recip on galleries
 

I don't run CJ/TGP sites anymore, but I have been reading a lot about this lately.

Seems some think that it is questionable behaviour to put your own recip link on the top of galleries you are submitting. This is news to me, when I used to do the TGP thing, it was a great way to get errant traffic to it, submit some galleries with my recip on every gallery, and 2 others.

Seems odd that this would be discouraged.

I'd do that if I submitted. But I don't.

Some think that it is questionable behaviour to put your own recip link on the top of galleries you are submitting.
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When I was submitting galleries I did it all the time.
Why it would be questionable behavior I don't know, just does not compute with me. Heck they had so many rules that prevented me from making money I quit A LONG time ago, submitting. Are you syaing some TGP's are saying it's questionable behavior?

Ofcourse it's questionable behaviour. The point of recips is that tgps posting the galleries get some fresh traffic in exchange for theirs. Now, if you put up a recip to your tgp that doesn't send traffic, you are leeching their traffic without sending anything back.
Why the hell would a tgp send traffic to the competition without getting anything in return?

By that argument, would you then consider using sponsor links on your gallery questionable behavior?

Sponsor links and content are the two main elements of a gallery, so that's a different situation altogether.
Aside from that, sponsors are not "the competition".

That's rediculous.

I won't point out the obvious.

After posting how I don't run CJ sites anymore, I realized that I should be. So the above statement became untrue 5 minutes ago.

You've obviously never run a significant TGP site. The amount of traffic garnered from a recip on a gallery is laughable. Even on a single page that gets 50K hits in a day, you're lucky to get 20 hits from a recip link. Those links don't exist to generate traffic...those that tell you they do don't understand their real purpose.

I've actually had recips that generated several hundreds of hits a day. Combine all of those, and it's a nice little extra traffic source, which in turn generates some extra traffic. If your recips don't get traffic you should redesign them.

And, for search engine purposes they actually pretty much suck.

I agree. Stills does not compute with me. When I was submitting I put a link to one of my free sites.

Whatever you say :1orglaugh

A few years ago they were helpful for se purposes, now they mean shit. There are thousands of tgp sites with thousands of recips on galleries, yet very few rank high in the search engines. Think about it.

I get as many as 1000 off a gallery in TheHun over the days it runs and have gotten over 200 of gallerys in AdultBuffet too at times...

A recip is like a banner or button, the traffic you get from it all depends on the design.

This is from my TGP counter hitbox, Wasn't my gallery but check out the #4 URL,
http://www1.ndhosting.com/web/rockin/titties.html
thats the top 4 from yesterday and Todays stats from the counter..
That 895 are people comming from TheHun where it started running Yesterday

URL - Visitors - %

1. Bookmarks 11,647 - 32.58

2. www.milkmanbook.com/ 3,286 - 9.19

3. www.angelslinks.com/ 919 - 2.57

4. http://www1.ndhosting.com/web/rockin/titties.html 895 - 2.50

Man, too many fucking uptight assholes out there. Getting off on ballbusting TGP rules. What the fuck, no link back to your main page (imagine if SleazyDream had to live with that rule?), now no button for your site allowed on the gallery? WTF? If that isn't "old school" I don't know what is. Now it is not allowed?

Fuck these cocksuckers

don't submit to them - let em deal with the re-directing shitheels who follow every rule and send the traffic to offshore clicks once they are posted.

Besides I submit to my own TGP also so you would get traffic leaked back so not like they are losing anything. The bullcrap thing is when they decline you and the other 2 recips pick it up and are leaking to the decliner.

I always put my own recip on my galleries I build but with that said. What doesn't make sense to me is (as a tgp owner) having someone include a recip to your tgp for accepting their gallery. What good is it doing you to have a recip to your tgp sitting on a gallery that is listed on your tgp. For example I accept Joe Blow's teen gallery. I has 3 recips. One is mine, one is tgp #2 and the other is tgp #3. Well, only two of those recips do me any good and that's providing that the gallery is accepted at the other two tgp's. I have actually built galleries and put 3 recips up and it not get listed at two of the three tgp's. That kind of fucks the one that is listed. Maybe it's time to rethink the whole recip thing. Like having three recips other than your own on the gallery submitted to your tgp and a link to a listed gallery on another tgp with your link and two others different from the one that's listed on yours. Not sure how the dynamics would work on that but if it's going to be used for bringing traffic in then it should be done in the best possible way to maximize the potential for incoming traffic. Anyone with ideas on how to make this possibly happen I would love to hear them.

I agree that the recip rule is stupid.... uh but there is a but..

when I do put a recip to my own tgp on all pages it would get probably get some traffic without sending traffic to the other tgp's that also have a recip...
but on the other hand. When I submit a gallerie to 100 tgp's... not all tgp's are listing that gallery in the first place. So what happens is that website1 sends traffic to gallerypageBA.html and some traffic to the other recips website who doesn't even need to have my shit listed.. so they do get traffic from me without listing my shit! :BangBang:

So uh best thing would be to put recips on a gallery that goes to websites that are sending traffic.
Or uh.. I prefer to have 3 recips like this
1 -> TGP I submit 2
2 -> My own TGP
3 -> A website owned by the tgp owner.. his paysite/freesite or whatever

the galleries is the tgp's content, its hardly leeching.