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J. Falcon 08-23-2021 12:47 PM

Any guitar players here?
 
How did you learn? What do you think is the best way to get started?

Electric, acoustic or classical?

Online classes? Courses? Learned by yourself?


:)

fuzebox 08-23-2021 12:53 PM

I taught myself basic power chords on an electric from Youtube videos. It was the wrong way to learn, I should have started off learning basic open chords, but googling how to play your favorite rock songs is more fun.

Klen 08-23-2021 12:56 PM

I went to guitar class when i still went to elementary school, but did not continued for some reason. I learned to play go go johhny go from chuck berry.

CurrentlySober 08-23-2021 01:44 PM

i cunt a4da guitar... :(

J. Falcon 08-23-2021 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober (Post 22903935)
i cunt a4da guitar... :(

If you can afford to repair your driveway, and a pimped out PC, you can afford a guitar

w4mmaps 08-23-2021 02:19 PM

Electric is easier to play and start with, although I personally started on acoustic as many do.

Best way to get started is to just start learning chords, then start looking up and learning how to play basic songs you like. Power chords aren't a bad starting point, but are limited in what songs you can play.

I started out with a lot of nirvana songs and power chords, then went from there.

The nice thing is once you get proficient with your chords, you can look up the majority of songs and learn them on the spot very easily. For me I can learn any song I wanna play (that isn't crazy advanced) in like 2-3 minutes.... it's fun. Once you get good at your chords you can do the same.

w4mmaps 08-23-2021 02:21 PM

Also there's a difference between reading chords and "tabs" which are fairly easy to learn.

Here's a good site for rock songs & tabs that I sometimes use.

https://rockmagic.net/


I've been playing for 20 years and still love it...playing guitar is awesome once you can do it lol. It takes patience at first, you're gonna suck balls for at least a few months bare minimum.

CurrentlySober 08-23-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22903944)
If you can afford to repair your driveway, and a pimped out PC, you can afford a guitar



but i cunt a4dan iphone... :(

Grapesoda 08-23-2021 02:45 PM

bass player

nikki99 08-23-2021 05:06 PM

I broke it :( (drunk)

J. Falcon 08-24-2021 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by w4mmaps (Post 22903946)
Electric is easier to play and start with, although I personally started on acoustic as many do.

Best way to get started is to just start learning chords, then start looking up and learning how to play basic songs you like. Power chords aren't a bad starting point, but are limited in what songs you can play.

I started out with a lot of nirvana songs and power chords, then went from there.

The nice thing is once you get proficient with your chords, you can look up the majority of songs and learn them on the spot very easily. For me I can learn any song I wanna play (that isn't crazy advanced) in like 2-3 minutes.... it's fun. Once you get good at your chords you can do the same.

So you don't think classes are necessary? Should I learn acoustic before I try electric?

Matyko 08-24-2021 04:37 AM

Learning on your own is a pretty difficult way. I am learning "in campaigns" since 16-17 and am still between beginner and intermediate levels. A few months ago I started taking online lessons and it is superb, lots of bad habits are getting fixed, thus I can slowly step forward.
If I were a teenager again, I would start learning from a teacher, combining with "how to play this and that" videos on Youtube.

J. Falcon 08-24-2021 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 22904246)
Learning on your own is a pretty difficult way. I am learning "in campaigns" since 16-17 and am still between beginner and intermediate levels. A few months ago I started taking online lessons and it is superb, lots of bad habits are getting fixed, thus I can slowly step forward.
If I were a teenager again, I would start learning from a teacher, combining with "how to play this and that" videos on Youtube.

That sounds like a good idea, and it's what I had in mind. But do you think an instructor can really see, listen to and correct everything over a webcam?

What type of guitar should I buy to start?

Alex BongaCash 08-24-2021 08:29 AM

It was hard for me to use youtube lessons. I have started learning by YouTube lessons several times and got almost zero results.
You can try online lessons with guitar players, but the best option would be real teacher ofc.

As for the guitar, I have heared that best to start is acoustic one.

Grapesoda 08-24-2021 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex BongaCash (Post 22904304)
It was hard for me to use youtube lessons. I have started learning by YouTube lessons several times and got almost zero results.
You can try online lessons with guitar players, but the best option would be real teacher ofc.

As for the guitar, I have heared that best to start is acoustic one.

The thing I like about YouTube videos for learning parts is that you can slow them down to 25% and the pitch remains the same

_Richard_ 08-25-2021 03:55 AM

start with an electric acoustic, and try and find simple/repetitive songs that you like and download the tabs for it

as already stated, id start with nirvana as it will have both chords and a simple solo you will recognize, and that will help you fix the problems with your fingers while holding down the strings

then memorize and practice beginner guitar chords, and during this start learning/practicing scales:

https://fachordscdn-16d90.kxcdn.com/...note-names.jpg

this is indian, but you'll see on the tab chart how a scale actually works.. once you have done this for a few days, pick some good blues songs

https://images.ctfassets.net/r1mvpfo...ale-tab_2x.png

and this will show you how scales are used to play music/pracitice etc

good luck!

lock 08-25-2021 04:35 AM

As long as you can effortly hold the cords notes on frets then got a good guitar and i know nothing more. Some gotta squeeze so find easier.

J. Falcon 08-25-2021 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 22904714)
start with an electric acoustic, and try and find simple/repetitive songs that you like and download the tabs for it

as already stated, id start with nirvana as it will have both chords and a simple solo you will recognize, and that will help you fix the problems with your fingers while holding down the strings

then memorize and practice beginner guitar chords, and during this start learning/practicing scales:

https://fachordscdn-16d90.kxcdn.com/...note-names.jpg

this is indian, but you'll see on the tab chart how a scale actually works.. once you have done this for a few days, pick some good blues songs

https://images.ctfassets.net/r1mvpfo...ale-tab_2x.png

and this will show you how scales are used to play music/pracitice etc

good luck!


Electric acoustic or classical for learning?

_Richard_ 08-25-2021 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22904725)
Electric acoustic or classical for learning?

i like classical, but the electric acoustic will be better for your callus forming + once you get there you'll be able to plugin etc

tbh id just buy both, as the classical you can just throw in the car without much care

J. Falcon 08-25-2021 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 22904728)
i like classical, but the electric acoustic will be better for your callus forming + once you get there you'll be able to plugin etc

tbh id just buy both, as the classical you can just throw in the car without much care

I'm going to be mostly playing at home on my own. I plan to combine in-person classes + live online classes + practicing.

Everyone is telling to start with a classical.

How about starting off with an electric?

_Richard_ 08-25-2021 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22904779)
I'm going to be mostly playing at home on my own. I plan to combine in-person classes + live online classes + practicing.

Everyone is telling to start with a classical.

How about starting off with an electric?

classical is nice as the fret is slightly bigger and the strings are nylon.. easier on fingers, easier to 'feel out' your way around the keyboard, but you will peak fast on it.. electric acoustic you will always have a use for, and will be able to plug it in for whatever classes/recording/amps you wish to use

starting off with an electric guitar is interesting as the strings will be more forgiving, the sound easier to produce, and the guitar will be easier to manage standing or sitting. problems are the use of a power source etc (ie, its nice to go to a park and practice versus sitting at home etc), and i think cost to invest in a new hobby? not sure.. id say go for it if you want it

neoblaz3r 08-25-2021 08:21 AM

Start alone, don't waste money on teachers. You can learn from watching covers and tutorials on youtube how to hold a guitar, and you surely need no assistance in developing the feeling of an instrument in your arms. You need to get used to holding it, transitioning between a few chords, and doing those basics is not that hard, but you need a muscle memory first. and when you get that confidence and feeling you can start to take lessons.
If you need some tips pm me ;)

J. Falcon 08-25-2021 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by neoblaz3r (Post 22904819)
Start alone, don't waste money on teachers. You can learn from watching covers and tutorials on youtube how to hold a guitar, and you surely need no assistance in developing the feeling of an instrument in your arms. You need to get used to holding it, transitioning between a few chords, and doing those basics is not that hard, but you need a muscle memory first. and when you get that confidence and feeling you can start to take lessons.
If you need some tips pm me ;)

Strong 2nd post :thumbsup

CaptainHowdy 08-25-2021 10:56 AM

I've been meaning to learn guitar in case I go blind . . .

Grapesoda 08-25-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22904725)
Electric acoustic or classical for learning?

you gonna sing? start with boogie and blues or 50-60's pop. you ain't gonna sing classical be fine for finger dexterity and ear training. I do have an electric guitar, a telle, however i usually play bass. one thing I have noticed is the younger players are not blues based player... they riff orientated.

main this is learning guitar is a pain in the ass so you learn music you really love regardless of popularity or style. learn polkas if it makes you happy :thumbsup


CaptainHowdy 08-25-2021 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoblaz3r (Post 22904819)
Start alone, don't waste money on teachers. You can learn from watching covers and tutorials on youtube how to hold a guitar, and you surely need no assistance in developing the feeling of an instrument in your arms. You need to get used to holding it, transitioning between a few chords, and doing those basics is not that hard, but you need a muscle memory first. and when you get that confidence and feeling you can start to take lessons.
If you need some tips pm me ;)

"Five strings, three notes, two fingers, and an asshole, and you’ve got it! You can play the darned thing. That’s all it takes. What you do with it is another thing." Keith Richards

Major (Tom) 08-25-2021 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22903892)
How did you learn? What do you think is the best way to get started?

Electric, acoustic or classical?

Online classes? Courses? Learned by yourself?


:)

Yes,
Best way? Get in person lessons, someone who will also teach you music theory, scales, modes etc

ruff 08-25-2021 05:24 PM

I played lead in a band throughout the 70's. My pride and joy is a 1964 Strat. I taught myself to play, but most music then was blues-based which provided a framework to learn to play in. Of course, now there are so many Youtube videos that you can learn anything you want. There is a huge difference is mimicking someone else and learning the art of improvisation. A blues progression will allow you to have a beginning, middle, and end. You can also buy songs that have various instruments deleted so you can fill them with your own.

Major (Tom) 08-25-2021 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22905070)
I played lead in a band throughout the 70's. My pride and joy is a 1964 Strat. I taught myself to play, but most music then was blues-based which provided a framework to learn to play in. Of course, now there are so many Youtube videos that you can learn anything you want. There is a huge difference is mimicking someone else and learning the art of improvisation. A blues progression will allow you to have a beginning, middle, and end. You can also buy songs that have various instruments deleted so you can fill them with your own.

Ahh the blues. Pentatonic overload. Sounds best with legato

ruff 08-25-2021 06:58 PM

Motivation for practicing? What else, pussy.

Major (Tom) 08-25-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22905108)
Motivation for practicing? What else, pussy.

I leave mine by the TV.
What’s funny is I stopped playing when the guitar got me laid. I only picked it back up maybe 5 years ago

_Richard_ 08-25-2021 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 22905070)
You can also buy songs that have various instruments deleted so you can fill them with your own.

cool thanks

TaiGhost 08-26-2021 07:28 AM

I started out by playing along to Pink Floyd records. Bass and later guitar.
Then found a teacher I liked a lot and studied with him for awhile. Best move I ever made. Ear training, ear training, ear training. I went on to study with Randy West. He was a drill sergeant. Not much fun but very beneficial. We have the same sized hands.

You want to play in a band setting as soon as you feel comfortable with it. You want to learn to play with other humans to get the feel of it. Click tracks and machines are okay too but if you want to ever play in a group setting, on stage, get experience early on.

The instrument you select is the one that speaks to your musical interest. In high school I heard James Brown on the radio and my course was set. Fender jazz bass and a fretless Rick with flatwounds...

neoblaz3r 08-26-2021 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22904874)
Strong 2nd post :thumbsup


Thanks! It's just that I appreciate the fact that some people share the same passion as me. Won't be that confident with sharing my affiliate experience :1orglaugh

Matyko 08-26-2021 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22904247)
That sounds like a good idea, and it's what I had in mind. But do you think an instructor can really see, listen to and correct everything over a webcam?

What type of guitar should I buy to start?

Yes, a good instructor can notice ALL your mistakes over a webcam. I was suprised+shocked how well this works. :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

I am only doing this for a few months, and once we did a live session as well. [he lives/works @ Budapest whole I am located 90 km away, so online works best, but occasionally we can meet in person]

As for the guitar itself: my only advice is that you should avoid the cheapest stuff, and go for a good acoustic guitar in the 400-600 USD price range. You can buy a used one as well of course to save money, but don't pick a bad instrument, it will just take your motivation away. And the most important: go for one which is designed for metal strings, but use nylon strings in the first few months, until your fingertips are not getting used to playing a guitar. Metal strings will make your fingertips hurt after way shorter time, so you will feel pain shortly after you are warmed up and ready to improve your skills. Once the fingertips on your left hand have solid skin, you can go for the better sounding / louder metal strings. ;) But touching boobs will never be the same for your left hand :2 cents:

Grapesoda 08-27-2021 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22905058)
Yes,
Best way? Get in person lessons, someone who will also teach you music theory, scales, modes etc

theory is really simple to understand BUT to get theory under your fingers is a different deal for sure. diatonic harmony, scales are 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 and 8 which is an octave, number one is the root.

modes are the scales played with the root changed to a scale tone: 12345671 Ionian
23456712 Dorian, 34567123 Phrygian .... etc....

chords are 1-3-5-7 built from any mode. take Ionian for instance in C, cdefgabc, take the 1357, cegb and that is c major 7. dorian mode in c is defgabcd, using the 1357 creates d minor 7 etc....

here is the Mnemonic i use to remember chord tones...

cegabud cegb
dafac dfac
egabud egbd
face face
gubaduf gbdf
aceg aceg
budafa bdfa

https://www.musictheory.net/lessons/45

J. Falcon 08-30-2021 07:13 AM

I decided to go with an electric guitar and I found an instructor who does both in-person and online classes, so I'll mix those up. Been practicing all weekend and I'm stoked. I know it's a long process but right now it's so much fun, especially when with a beautiful guitar like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CWc41Y4/guitar.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2j6zZ3/guitarphoto.jpg

Bought a guitar stand and put it right next to my set up so I see it every time I sit down, and admire its beauty. Now I just want to learn to make it sound as pretty as it looks!

Alex BongaCash 08-30-2021 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22907018)
I decided to go with an electric guitar and I found an instructor who does both in-person and online classes, so I'll mix those up. Been practicing all weekend and I'm stoked. I know it's a long process but right now it's so much fun, especially when with a beautiful guitar like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CWc41Y4/guitar.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2j6zZ3/guitarphoto.jpg

Bought a guitar stand and put it right next to my set up so I see it every time I sit down, and admire its beauty. Now I just want to learn to make it sound as pretty as it looks!

It looks cool :thumbsup Really nice first guitar, congratulations!

J. Falcon 08-30-2021 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex BongaCash (Post 22907053)
It looks cool :thumbsup Really nice first guitar, congratulations!

Thanks :)

JustBiz 08-30-2021 08:52 AM

I used to play bass. Electric. Played by ear ... Badly.

svet0slav_SR 08-30-2021 10:06 AM

I play guitar, but I like the bass guitar better. Electric, of course...

Major (Tom) 08-30-2021 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 22905762)
theory is really simple to understand BUT to get theory under your fingers is a different deal for sure. diatonic harmony, scales are 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 and 8 which is an octave, number one is the root.

modes are the scales played with the root changed to a scale tone: 12345671 Ionian
23456712 Dorian, 34567123 Phrygian .... etc....

chords are 1-3-5-7 built from any mode. take Ionian for instance in C, cdefgabc, take the 1357, cegb and that is c major 7. dorian mode in c is defgabcd, using the 1357 creates d minor 7 etc....

here is the Mnemonic i use to remember chord tones...

cegabud cegb
dafac dfac
egabud egbd
face face
gubaduf gbdf
aceg aceg
budafa bdfa

https://www.musictheory.net/lessons/45

Mainly how to build scales and the intervals between each position on the scale.
If you know the key you’re playing in (just take the cords) knowing the notes in the cord which is part of knowing where that note falls on the position of scale, you can improvise within that key using the modes.

Grapesoda 08-30-2021 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker (Post 22907310)
Mainly how to build scales and the intervals between each position on the scale.
If you know the key you’re playing in (just take the cords) knowing the notes in the cord which is part of knowing where that note falls on the position of scale, you can improvise within that key using the modes.

not much improvisation in boogie and blues.... but maybe it's time :)

I love this tune... :thumbsup


cryptoporn 08-31-2021 09:38 AM

I play guitar. What's my favorite guitar stuff?

Steel Panther

Glory Hole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diYS8jyOcFc

If I was King
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJiWnCzqXlc

Asian Hooker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdWdOVsjL5Y

It won't suck itself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs5NTHYNzEA

Gods of Pussy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnHDJWg0-cY

Heavy Metal Rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvubIgC9zi0

Wasted too much time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klYtT4fabQA

Party Like Tomorrow Is The End Of The World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roRcksH2_HQ

JustBiz 09-01-2021 07:41 AM

He's not here but guess no "Who played guitar?" thread can go without a ... Ziggy answer.


SongRider 09-02-2021 10:58 AM

I Started playing guitar in 1978... Never had any lessons... Just had a guy show me how to tune it and saw a chord chart hanging in the local music store and started trying to memorize those run home and practice and just played a long with my albums...

With YouTube there is no reason to pay for lessons... anything you would ever want to know is available 24/7/365 for free.

Acoustic or Electric don't matter... Get whatever has you inspired to play... :)

J. Falcon 09-02-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SongRider (Post 22908727)
I Started playing guitar in 1978... Never had any lessons... Just had a guy show me how to tune it and saw a chord chart hanging in the local music store and started trying to memorize those run home and practice and just played a long with my albums...

With YouTube there is no reason to pay for lessons... anything you would ever want to know is available 24/7/365 for free.

Acoustic or Electric don't matter... Get whatever has you inspired to play... :)

You've been playing guitar longer than I've been alive. (born in 1979)

Finishing up my first week of practice. I've learned several one-string riffs so far on YT, but chords scare me. Getting my second last tomorrow - first class with my own actual guitar. Trying out JustinGuitar.com and I find it very useful.

J. Falcon 01-26-2022 02:00 PM

So, had the guitar for 5 months now. Taking weekly classes and practicing at least an hour a day. It's amazing how quickly your fingers adapt. I can't play any entire songs yet but plenty of riffs. It's been quite an experience.

I actually enjoy practicing.

Really happy with myself overall. I can actually play the Money for Nothing riff (greatest guitar riff of all time IMO) close enough.

Lubas 01-27-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22907018)

Cool guitar :pimp

adultchatpay 01-30-2022 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 22907018)
I decided to go with an electric guitar and I found an instructor who does both in-person and online classes, so I'll mix those up. Been practicing all weekend and I'm stoked. I know it's a long process but right now it's so much fun, especially when with a beautiful guitar like this:

https://i.postimg.cc/8CWc41Y4/guitar.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/DZ2j6zZ3/guitarphoto.jpg

Bought a guitar stand and put it right next to my set up so I see it every time I sit down, and admire its beauty. Now I just want to learn to make it sound as pretty as it looks!

That is a cool guitar. Plus you got a nice and clean desk. :thumbsup:thumbsup


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