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lockept93 07-23-2020 02:16 PM

How much budget to make a website like OnlyFans?
 
If you would count everything together - how much investion money you think is needed to create and make it work? (I'm not talking about marketing - just the creation of a service like this.)

I really want do this :winkwink:

CurrentlySober 07-23-2020 02:21 PM

Tree-Fiddy...

Ferus 07-23-2020 02:22 PM

Depend on how you want it to scale, and how much traffic you have in mind.

lockept93 07-23-2020 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22706975)
Depend on how you want it to scale, and how much traffic you have in mind.

I just talk about the creation process - I know with so many user like OnlyFans you have support and other employees, but that would not count yet.

Just imagine a copy of that with 0 users.

MaDalton 07-23-2020 02:36 PM

$50-$100k initially

plsureking 07-23-2020 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22706982)
$50-$100k initially

fuck me, i built https://fetishmodelnetwork.com on percentage

:1orglaugh

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lockept93 07-23-2020 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22706992)
fuck me, i built https://fetishmodelnetwork.com on percentage

:1orglaugh

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Oh yes I want fuck u :thumbsup

wankawonk 07-23-2020 03:03 PM

if you can code it you could do it for basically free

marketing and building your team and getting your operations running smoothly, those are the real expenses/challenges here. not building the service.

MaDalton 07-23-2020 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22706992)
fuck me, i built https://fetishmodelnetwork.com on percentage

:1orglaugh

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I guess it's how you value your time and whether you trust the person who runs it to make it profitable. ;)

I would never build something like that on promises.

And of course hourly rates can vary a lot.

Brian mike 07-23-2020 04:55 PM

https://www.google.com/search?ei=HSM...UDCAw&ua ct=5

:2 cents:

plsureking 07-23-2020 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22707040)
I guess it's how you value your time and whether you trust the person who runs it to make it profitable. ;)

I would never build something like that on promises.

And of course hourly rates can vary a lot.

most of my projects are automated income these days, so i dont mind taking on a project if its fun and has good management/partnership.

it reduces the boredom :1orglaugh

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Ferus 07-23-2020 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22706978)
I just talk about the creation process - I know with so many user like OnlyFans you have support and other employees, but that would not count yet.

Just imagine a copy of that with 0 users.

That is not how it works when you need to be able to scale out. You have a 2005 mindst regarding architect ure.

lockept93 07-24-2020 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22707192)
That is not how it works when you need to be able to scale out. You have a 2005 mindst regarding architect ure.

No I don't have a mindset from 2005 - I don't understand why u think that.
All I was asking is how much would it costs just to create the base. Coding working hours.

I know that there is a different level of running a company like this in this scale - but that's a thing I can imagine by myself.

If you want be competetive with OF you need millions.

Mediamix 07-24-2020 02:46 AM

You also need the right contacts in your network.. ;)

Brit in Cambodia 07-24-2020 04:03 AM

If you could code you could largely do it yourself, of course there are other not code related tasks like setting up merchants accounts and model verification.

Can girls stream on only fans or is it just uploaded videos and pictures?


Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.

lockept93 07-24-2020 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit in Cambodia (Post 22707291)
If you could code you could largely do it yourself, of course there are other not code related tasks like setting up merchants accounts and model verification.

Can girls stream on only fans or is it just uploaded videos and pictures?


Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.



I don't know if it's possible on OF but anyway I would not do something like that.

MaDalton 07-24-2020 05:37 AM

btw - i love the answers that say "if you can code, you can do it yourself".

If I had ovaries, I could also have my own children. ;)

And if you make money already, you know how much your own hours are worth and whether it makes more sense to pay someone to do something cause it will cost you less than neglecting the work which makes you more.

plsureking 07-24-2020 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit in Cambodia (Post 22707291)
Getting streaming set up would be the hardest part... probably.

i plugged a PornCMS backend into fetishmodelnetwork. it sends the video over to the cms, and returns the converted video when its done. basically the same thing FB does, but my backend is a lot better LOL

i was doing the conversions on-the-fly, which was good for anything under a couple minutes, but we started getting long videos.


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nikki99 07-24-2020 09:01 AM

to shoot content is better

Klen 07-24-2020 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22707319)
btw - i love the answers that say "if you can code, you can do it yourself".

If I had ovaries, I could also have my own children. ;)

And if you make money already, you know how much your own hours are worth and whether it makes more sense to pay someone to do something cause it will cost you less than neglecting the work which makes you more.

One of advantage of knowing to code is how you can automate most of regular tasks, so you have free time to do thing like... coding :1orglaugh

lockept93 07-24-2020 11:00 AM

Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

How many hours coding would need a website like OF? :winkwink:

ilnjscb 07-24-2020 12:58 PM

Talent will only come if you pay out better than 80%. How will you receive payments? How will you pay talent? How will you handle chargebacks and attacks?

MaDalton 07-24-2020 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22707528)
Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

How many hours coding would need a website like OF? :winkwink:

I calculated 600-800 hours plus external costs like graphic design

wankawonk 07-24-2020 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22707528)
Ok, now we all know that hourly rates can be between 0.01 and 1000$
So maybe it's better to ask in a different way:

How many hours coding would need a website like OF? :winkwink:

there's no real answer to that

I could code up a working clone in two weeks (100 hours).

would payments be completely secure? would the content reporting system be mature? would there be systems in place to find and remove illegal/underage content? does the model dashboard have bugs in it? what about when you want to start upselling the johns with email campaigns?

Those things would be on-going processes that would require professional attention over weeks, months, years.

I learned years ago, no code survives production without having to be fixed or improved or changed in some way.

plsureking 07-25-2020 04:49 AM

the real question is can you even afford to build this? or just trying to annoy all the programmers on the board?

:1orglaugh

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Mickey_ 07-25-2020 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22707261)
No I don't have a mindset from 2005 - I don't understand why u think that.
All I was asking is how much would it costs just to create the base. Coding working hours.

I know that there is a different level of running a company like this in this scale - but that's a thing I can imagine by myself.

If you want be competetive with OF you need millions.

He meant scaling in terms of the architecture/tech side, not marketing and HR. Nearly anyone can build you a clone of OF. Even better you can probably buy an out ot the box clone with the source code for a few thousand max. There’s no shortage of them. Will that code be scalable when you’ve outgrown the ~100 concurrent visitors limit of the platform (that you weren’t aware of) you paid for? 99% chance it will not and you’ll have to start from scratch.

Ferus 07-25-2020 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22707691)
I calculated 600-800 hours plus external costs like graphic design

Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

2 developers
1 project manager (25% time)
1 UX person

160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF

King Mark 07-25-2020 05:23 PM

At this point it's like trying to create another Instagram. Better off doing something different. Onlyfans is mainstream af.

Klen 07-25-2020 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Mark (Post 22708230)
At this point it's like trying to create another Instagram. Better off doing something different. Onlyfans is mainstream af.

True, a lot of instagram models which normaly would not do any kind of porn are there.

CaptainHowdy 07-25-2020 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klen (Post 22708232)
True, a lot of instagram models which normaly would not do any kind of porn are there.

All those girls that think they're beyond porn, they're actually porn.

MDT 07-26-2020 04:17 AM

I think that promotion will take 95% of you budget. 5% - is service of coders and designers.

MaDalton 07-26-2020 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22708019)
Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

2 developers
1 project manager (25% time)
1 UX person

160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF

Yeah, you are probably right, i just guessed very roughly.

The thing is: when someone asks in public, the chances of that person actually following through with this are zero anyways.

And those who have the knowledge to turn this into profit know that coding is only a small part of the overall project and just simply have it built without making much fuss about it.

Ferus 07-26-2020 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 22708373)

And those who have the knowledge to turn this into profit know that coding is only a small part of the overall project and just simply have it built without making much fuss about it.

Spot on! :thumbsup

plsureking 07-26-2020 07:16 AM

some of these estimates are pretty extreme :1orglaugh

try simple test first with prebuilt..

https://codecanyon.net/item/emarketp...place/20758600

https://codecanyon.net/item/codeclub...ripts/22885977

https://codecanyon.net/item/menorahm...cript/20195267


these days tho, you probably want to get into online education. maybe a hybrid? hoes teach math?

https://codecanyon.net/item/smart-sc...ystem/19426018

:winkwink:

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Brit in Cambodia 07-26-2020 07:43 AM

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/m...ions-z9vhq9c9s worth a read

plsureking 07-26-2020 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brit in Cambodia (Post 22708421)

i'm not one of the 25 people who subscribe to the sunday times

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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meetinchat 07-26-2020 08:57 AM

I coded my site by myself. If I had to pay me the total was about 50k $ according to a decent hour rate.
Unfortunately my site doesn't worth 50k to achieve this ammount with banners, links and blog post it will take years
How do you consider this? A flop?


I agree with the Ferus estimation. It seems really realistic.

PornoStar69 07-26-2020 11:50 AM

Bloody hell..... I bought the Sunday Times today and haven't read the main part of the paper - will now.

AlfalfaReborn 07-27-2020 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22706992)
fuck me, i built https://fetishmodelnetwork.com on percentage

:1orglaugh

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Would you be open to selling a white label of your site?

plsureking 07-27-2020 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlfalfaReborn (Post 22709053)
Would you be open to selling a white label of your site?

its based on wowonder, although i've been off their version track for a long time. i customized a lot of the features, plus added the entire billing setup for subscriptions and tips.

wowonder:
https://codecanyon.net/item/wowonder...tform/13785302

the tech is the easy part. getting models to stay active is the hard part..

good luck!

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Relentless 07-27-2020 01:47 PM

Building a similar website.... pennies.

Building a similar brand... millions.

RyuLion 07-27-2020 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian mike (Post 22707056)

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

plsureking 07-27-2020 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 22709147)
Building a similar website.... pennies.

Building a similar brand... millions.

otherwise silicon valley would have moved to Bangladesh a long time ago

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AmeliaG 07-27-2020 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 22709081)
its based on wowonder, although i've been off their version track for a long time. i customized a lot of the features, plus added the entire billing setup for subscriptions and tips.

wowonder:
https://codecanyon.net/item/wowonder...tform/13785302

the tech is the easy part. getting models to stay active is the hard part..

good luck!

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Is that open source? Would you be able to sell adult billing add-ons and have the licensee be able to implement?

AmeliaG 07-27-2020 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferus (Post 22708019)
Lets entertain that thought for a second, and say you want build a MVP clone of OF, and you want to aim for a application maturity level 2.. not 3 or 4, just a easy 2.

From the first meeting with the developer and the first fireframe on a whiteboard/sprint-overview, lets say they can do it in 3 months, and calculate based on that

2 developers
1 project manager (25% time)
1 UX person

160 hours each month normal EU time: = 1560 hours


That is first production-ready version, then how much do you think they need to work on over the next year? 50-80 hours a month(one person). That is another 600-800 hours easily

So that is around 2000 hours the first year. Lets say they use cheap east-Europe (good standard) developers at around €50/hours = €100.000,-

And that is for a site that dont even come close to the capacity and function-level of OF


2 developers because that shortens the timeline to launch and later to adjust or because there are multiple skill sets needed?

plsureking 07-28-2020 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22709249)
Is that open source? Would you be able to sell adult billing add-ons and have the licensee be able to implement?

open source, yes.

releasing proprietary upgrades, sorry no can do do.

https://fetishmodelnetwork.com is paying out 80% to models and directors on tips and subscriptions. highest in the industry.

10% affiliate payouts off the top too.

just post there and save yourself dev cost.. :winkwink:

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sandman! 07-28-2020 08:33 AM

20-100k depends on the features you want

candyflip 07-30-2020 05:32 AM

You can buy a script for $99 and built it off of Wordpress pretty cheaply and easily.

plsureking 07-30-2020 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 22710649)
You can buy a script for $99 and built it off of Wordpress pretty cheaply and easily.

easy at first glance :1orglaugh

wait until partners and members start asking for upgrades.

(you better have a programmer)


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theS2O 07-30-2020 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lockept93 (Post 22706972)
If you would count everything together - how much investion money you think is needed to create and make it work? (I'm not talking about marketing - just the creation of a service like this.)

I really want do this :winkwink:

We can help you with the design aspect of this project. :thumbsup


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