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Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:21 PM

400k and no serious cash
 
hi,

I'm getting more then 400k pageviews daily on my galleries but I don't make serious cash yet.

I get listed daily on about 40 major TGP's, EVERY day

But still I just make only little cash

If anyone thinks he can make me more, please contact me

icq 37845449
phone +31 (0) 612316911

AdultNex 05-09-2003 05:21 PM

List some of your galleries, we can help you improve them.

KRL 05-09-2003 05:22 PM

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yeh, giving away porn for free is a profitable business model indeed.

BJ 05-09-2003 05:22 PM

$400k is not serious cash

Gutterboy 05-09-2003 05:23 PM

If you can't make money with 400k PV daily, you are in the wrong business.

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gutterboy
If you can't make money with 400k PV daily, you are in the wrong business.
Maybe I am, but I CAN get 400k so I'm not so wrong.

Corleone 05-09-2003 05:26 PM

:1orglaugh

thats right too.. i'd like to see a sample gallery

EscortBiz 05-09-2003 05:30 PM

its not always the gallery its where and what type of traffic is looking at it

Gutterboy 05-09-2003 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortBiz
its not always the gallery its where and what type of traffic is looking at it
If he's getting daily listings on the top 40 high traffic TGP's, its not the clicks that are the problem.

Tipsy 05-09-2003 05:33 PM

Half the problem is that people get confused and think they must make 'ultra clean' galleries to get listed and so make fuck all money. Sure galleries with little advertising (and the little there is is often banner top/banner bottom) will get you listed nearly every time. What the hell's the point though when it's making you no money? Mind you - doesn't help that so many TGP's decided they wanted galleries not designed to sell.

Simple answer is to build galleries designed to make clicks and sales. If you then miss the odd listing so what. At least you're making money.

I'll almost bet that with traffic that high you're making crap with minimal ads that are well away from all the pics.

:)

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:39 PM

Okey I make galleries like these
http://www.eroticdreamz.com/tw/078/

I DO NOT blame the sponsor, they do pay me money

But if only it could be a little more......

Tipsy 05-09-2003 05:42 PM

That's my theory blown out the water. The sales text is bad but very visible :)

Not enough to make people click especially down the bottom. Even the middle isn't too enticing. Try being CRUDE in the sales text. Crude if done well gets good clicks.

Tipsy 05-09-2003 05:44 PM

hahahahahhahhahahah

Sorry. Just noticed your sig. That's just funny given the topic of this thread :1orglaugh

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
That's my theory blown out the water. The sales text is bad but very visible :)

Not enough to make people click especially down the bottom. Even the middle isn't too enticing. Try being CRUDE in the sales text. Crude if done well gets good clicks.

thanks for your comments but what the fuck means "crude"?

maxjohan 05-09-2003 05:44 PM

try to be uniqe and test test test..

:glugglug

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
hahahahahhahhahahah

Sorry. Just noticed your sig. That's just funny given the topic of this thread :1orglaugh

yeah I know dude, just trying to make a buck or two :1orglaugh

directfiesta 05-09-2003 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Yeh, giving away porn for free is a profitable business model indeed.

First truthfull post for the past few days....

Maybe he should double the number of thumbs on the galleries. That will make those freeporn getters sign up...

Tipsy 05-09-2003 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1


thanks for your comments but what the fuck means "crude"?

come and see me getting naked = not crude

come and see my pink pussy get dripping wet = crude

come and see my hot spunk filled c u n t = very crude (too crude?)

Probably a dictionary would explain it better. It was many moons ago I last studied my native language (and it shows) but you should get the idea.

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy


come and see me getting naked = not crude

come and see my pink pussy get dripping wet = crude

come and see my hot spunk filled c u n t = very crude (too crude?)

Probably a dictionary would explain it better. It was many moons ago I last studied my native language (and it shows) but you should get the idea.

yeah thanks, english is not my main language

I don't really understand how to tease the surfers yet

Theo 05-09-2003 05:54 PM

what's your ratio with twistys?

Ron2k1 05-09-2003 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
what's your ratio with twistys?
1:1300

Nasty D 05-09-2003 06:08 PM

Dude try our site!

Theo 05-09-2003 06:32 PM

this program from what i see its a 50% partnership

1 Month Access Only $19.95

so you get about $10/month

They still have paypal option for receiving payments + checks. Do they give you credit for these sales?

If they retain 2 months you get paid in total $20/sale which is $0.015/click

If they retain 3 months you get paid in total $30/sale which is $0.023/click

I find it very hard to retain more than 3 months since it's not a niche site and the traffic comes from tgps.

A good thing to do is to analyze the performance of your sponsors based on revenues per click. Sometimes the bad revenue results are reflected on the billing scheme of the sponsor.

Your gallery matches the tour and personally I fail to see why it doesnt convert better. I'm far away from a tgp guru and yes tgp traffic needs certain skills to convert it, but 1:1300 is really bad. I think such ratio someone can still get by sending blind link traffic to nastydollars and receive $35/sale. Maybe you should contact twistys people and ask for tips on how to bring the ratio to decent level.

My guess is that you are using twistys because thry provide you with very quality content to promote them. In case you don't manage to find a solution with twistys ratio I would advise you to buy some good content and use some paysite you have experienced good results in the past. Just my thoughts, i'm not trying to degrade twistys in anyway.

The Click 05-09-2003 06:35 PM

If had half those PV in a day i would be the fukin richest man in this thread.

Carlito 05-09-2003 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Click
If had half those PV in a day i would be the fukin richest man in this thread.
/agreed - when i had 400k a day from TGP I was doing damn good, now I can`t build it back up because i don`t have time. :ak47:

4Pics 05-09-2003 10:24 PM

You should try a sponsor with a Free join or a low price trial i bet you convert better. You aren't going to get many to join at $19.95 for a month.

beemk 05-09-2003 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tipsy
hahahahahhahhahahah

Sorry. Just noticed your sig. That's just funny given the topic of this thread :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

beemk 05-09-2003 10:30 PM

i think one problem is that you only have one text link on the gallery.

GTS Mark 05-09-2003 10:39 PM

I can't make any money with all this goddamn traffic :winkwink:

http://www.gallerysubmitservice.com/newstats.jpg

DH

EscortBiz 05-09-2003 10:50 PM

shit traffic thats it

4Pics 05-10-2003 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard
I can't make any money with all this goddamn traffic :winkwink:

http://www.gallerysubmitservice.com/newstats.jpg

DH

You got a great problem to have, better to have traffic then not.

Try a different sponsor/niche etc.

Makingcoin 05-10-2003 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 4Pics


You got a great problem to have, better to have traffic then not.

Try a different sponsor/niche etc.

I think he was joking ;)

Mishi 05-10-2003 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1


1:1300

Could be worse. Could be a lot better.

Your first chance of making a sale is at the top of the page. You have no link there.

"Hey! I'm Terri Summers, and I'm originally from Holland. But I have been living on Ibizia for a while now :-) At Twistys you can see many more photo's from me and other hot babes. Twistys is PACKED with babes!
CLICK HERE TO GET A FREE PREVIEW OF OUR MEMBER AREA!"

So WHAT? What site doesn't offer photos of hot babes? The question you need to answer is, what makes Twisty's unique?

Bottom link is off-putting. Your surfer may very well get a subconscious negative vibe from the question. Don't ask questions that might be answered with "no." You need to lead your surfer, not push him. "Hi baby, come see me get naked just for you at Twisty's. I'm waiting!" Okay, that pretty much sucks...but do you see the difference?

iwantchixx 05-10-2003 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1
Okey I make galleries like these
http://www.eroticdreamz.com/tw/078/

I DO NOT blame the sponsor, they do pay me money

But if only it could be a little more......

I never noticed anything to click for sponsor until I looked. That says alot. A gallery builder myself I usualy notice banners and ads WAY before content. This time I saw thumbs, That's it. Then I had to force myself to look "oh there they are... damn doesn't even look like anything that is suposed to be clicked"
You gotta TELL the surfer to click. Use contrasting colors for words like "click here". Use contrasting colors on anythign like pussy, free, hahahaha, fucking, etc etc. but don;t go overboard. try not to put the same contrast text colors under, above, or beside another contrasted one. text is key.

http 05-10-2003 05:52 AM

Ron I have good stuff for you, check your ICQ


Atahualpa

xxxdesign-net 05-10-2003 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1
hi,

I'm getting more then 400k pageviews daily on my galleries but I don't make serious cash yet.

I get listed daily on about 40 major TGP's, EVERY day

But still I just make only little cash

If anyone thinks he can make me more, please contact me

icq 37845449
phone +31 (0) 612316911

400,000 pageviews?
But how many unique visitors per day do you get?

Ron2k1 05-10-2003 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxdesign-net


400,000 pageviews?
But how many unique visitors per day do you get?

About half of them is unqiue visitors, actually it's like 250k uniques

99,9% coming from TGP's

thanks all for your (helpfull) comments.

btw, in case you think I don't make money, I DO make money but not enough ;)

for the people who have send icq messages, maybe I didn't reply when I was sleeping last night (time difference between USA and the Netherlands)

If you have something cool to offer just let me know :)

cya have a nice weekend!

DanielS 05-12-2003 03:00 AM

Hello, i have many sites but i'll give you an example i've started a new one and i'm making like $70 a day with 4000 uniques (and still growing every day). I use 140 x 140 thumbnails (keep aspect ratio), 1 banner (in the middle) and a background colour that contrast the background of the thumbnails. It's a very simple design, but remember most surfers are there just for the free photos, they don't care your design. If you give them a good example of the pay site, they will join. Don't use the full set of photos, just leave the gallery with some suspense...
I recomend topbucks, payserve, gammacash.
I'm converting topbucks: 1.40 and gammacash 1:36.
Anything else hit me on icq: 2908383.

jovigirl 05-12-2003 03:57 AM

I just need to know how the hell do you get those 400K hits????
Paid spots?

DamageX 05-12-2003 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jovigirl
I just need to know how the hell do you get those 400K hits????
Paid spots?

Keep experimenting and you'll eventually find out. :winkwink:

Roald 05-12-2003 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jovigirl
I just need to know how the hell do you get those 400K hits????
Paid spots?

Actually it's 250k uniques, so that sounds a bit less isn't it.

Anyway just handsubmit a gallery a day to all major tgps and you should be able to have it daily within a month.


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